Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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Stefan Clift
Here’s my take:

PD ideally want people to play Gran Turismo titles over a long period of time. With a good few years between launches, there’s enough time in between to fill. GT is played over months or years, but this game has been out for two weeks.

In GT6 for example, a player could buy 600 cars and there would be another 600 to go. In GT7, someone would collect all 400+ cars and think “now what?”

Now I’m not a fan of how expensive it is. However I’m not as affected as most as I’ve been moving house so I haven’t been able to play since day one, but I’m sure the price is reflective on keeping the longevity with very few cars.

Not everyone’s cup of tea, but hopefully with more vehicles introduced the higher the payouts will be
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They won't though. Retaining players to a game, any game, for several years is very hard unless it's an ongoing MMO.

Only a small percentage of players will hang around that long. In the last weeks of GTS before GT7, 95% of players were not actively playing the game.

If PD think millions of people are going to be playing this game for years on end they're going to be in for a shock. There are hundreds of other games out there, people move on.

Sage Ages
There is a bunch of content in this game that I'm sure much of the playerbase has no interest in ever interacting with, but you don't see me bothering them about it.
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Er, OK? So what was your initial "Meh. It's only been two weeks and I ain't in a hurry." comment in aid of if you don't even car about these cars? Just baiting people?
 
Sage Ages
Are we not allowed to discuss our thoughts and opinions on a discussion forum?
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Well that comment clearly suggests you're fine with waiting to earn it later, I pointed out how that is still going to be a problem and you just shrugged it off by saying you're not bothered about owning it at all anyway.

Hard to have a discussion with someone giving off such mixed messages.
 
AutumnalGlow
Yes, but not for credits bought with MTX of course.
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BrockAustin7
They're not even trying to hide their intentions.
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I imagine issues would arise if there was a cap in place for bought credits and someone had made a purchase that exceeded it. Shouldn't take a genius to realize why that's a bad idea.


Of course that calls into question what the point of the credit cap was in the first place and why it still exists. I'm guessing it's leftover baggage from previous games that no one bothered to change but what the hell was the point back then?
 
Sage Ages
Of course that calls into question what the point of the credit cap was in the first place and why it still exists. I'm guessing it's leftover baggage from previous games that no one bothered to change but what the hell was the point back then?
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No, it's purely intentional for the reasons I explained. You don't add a secondary balance system for MTs and "forget" to change the limit on the original.

They even added a new bit of text that outlines your "free" credits are limited but your paid ones are not. Someone wrote that new bit of text, purposely.
 
Let's have a look at the S licenses, shall we?

S-1 = No grip
S-2 = A bit more grip
S-3 = Oh wow, I have grip
S-4 = Now this is nice
S-5 = Watch out for that last bump or you'll end up on pit road
S-6 = I know this car has more grip than this
S-7 = All the grip in the world
S-8 = Understeer anyone?
S-9 = I'm OK with this
S-10 = Never again, and I don't care about the gold
 
The addition of the 18.5 million Mclaren F1 right after the payout cut and push for mtx's has made me realize how amazing this game is as a simulator.

10/10, Gran Turismo has become the ultimate simulator. It accurately simulates my depression and poorness in real as it does in game!
 
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R1600Turbo
Let's have a look at the S licenses, shall we?

S-1 = No grip
S-2 = A bit more grip
S-3 = Oh wow, I have grip
S-4 = Now this is nice
S-5 = Watch out for that last bump or you'll end up on pit road
S-6 = I know this car has more grip than this
S-7 = All the grip in the world
S-8 = Understeer anyone?
S-9 = I'm OK with this
S-10 = Never again, and I don't care about the gold
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I was really surprised that I manage to beat S-10 in less than 5-6 tries.

S-1 = let's put this very unstable car in banked turns. Now this is podracing!
S-2 = cool and relaxing driving around Monza
S-3 = less than 1 minute trophy!
S-4 = this was hard. Trying to do the perfect lap in urban circuits is the death of me
S-5 = it was fun and easy, especially with racing tires!
S-6 = a good one. It's fun and fair, I like it
S-7 = HOLY **** KILL WITH FIRE. I HATE IT. I DESPISE THIS TEST. BY FAR. I felt it was impossible to do playing with a controller, until somehow I got the magic lap with gold.
S-8 = I love Interlagos and I love Zondas. This was a good one!
S-9 = I couldn't get the first part right. Spent quite some minutes until gold.
S-10 = honestly, it was alright. Once you get the hang of the racing line it's all about not spining out in the last corner like an idiot like me!
 
Honestly, I have no issue with cars being so high priced, espacially when they are looking for "realistic" prices.
I have always been pretty happy with the Gran Turismo series, you can consider me almost as a "Fanboy" (maybe I have low standards?)
But the economy is "pissing me off" : I don't see the problem with MT either (Buying Credit and/or Cars, I think it's the way they found to give us free DLC during the whole life of the game), but the reward are way too low, and MT are way too overpriced (20 euros for 2M credit? Seriously what a joke).
It's really a shame, even more because there is something we probably all forget : THE GAME IS GOOD! I mean graphics are incredible, decent car/track list, pretty decent sound, cool customisation, countless hours of fun can be done online (I'm more an offline player but a cool online league with fun players car be very enjoyable)... It's a great base game...
I can't understand why PD shoot oneself in the foot (probably Sony pressure but still), with such low rewards. Even GTS gave us one car each day with daily workout (they could easily give us free Brand Central cars instead of winning part for a GT86 I don't even use).
I like the idea of progression, the UCD and Hagerty dealership, but even if we play a lot, we can't afford what we want and who know when they are coming back again... Anyway, I like this game and support PD but I would never buy MT (especially at those ridiculous prices)
 
SSQES
Honestly, I have no issue with cars being so high priced, espacially when they are looking for "realistic" prices.
I have always been pretty happy with the Gran Turismo series, you can consider me almost as a "Fanboy" (maybe I have low standards?)
But the economy is "pissing me off" : I don't see the problem with MT either (Buying Credit and/or Cars, I think it's the way they found to give us free DLC during the whole life of the game), but the reward are way too low, and MT are way too overpriced (20 euros for 2M credit? Seriously what a joke).
It's really a shame, even more because there is something we probably all forget : THE GAME IS GOOD! I mean graphics are incredible, decent car/track list, pretty decent sound, cool customisation, countless hours of fun can be done online (I'm more an offline player but a cool online league with fun players car be very enjoyable)... It's a great base game...
I can't understand why PD shoot oneself in the foot (probably Sony pressure but still), with such low rewards. Even GTS gave us one car each day with daily workout (they could easily give us free Brand Central cars instead of winning part for a GT86 I don't even use).
I like the idea of progression, the UCD and Hagerty dealership, but even if we play a lot, we can't afford what we want and who know when they are coming back again... Anyway, I like this game and support PD but I would never buy MT (especially at those ridiculous prices)
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I am in the same boat man. Mostly the prices are ok. But that McLaren F1 is over the top. 18 mil or something. Wow, at most a 3M car imo. Since GT7 seems to want to price the cars slightly higher than what they are sold for irl (XJ13 7-8 mil irl, Mark IV race car 2,5-3M etc.).
 
Prices are ok. I don't mind 18 milions for F1 or something like that. That is legendary car afterall

The problem is with:
-No way of earning money fast. There should be long or hard races that would give us a lot of money to help us earn this car in matter of days with normal playing (normal means you have work life and can play in the evening not spamming all day )
- Time restrictions... It wouldn't be huge of a problem if economy wouldn't be as broken, but it still makes unnecesery urgency. Legendary cars are quite ok if we could earn money more quickly, but those invitations for brand central are pure nonsense and i don't see why they can't be "premanent"


Oh and I am worried that even with bigger payouts (which can come out in the future) with "legendary cars cycle" after adding loads of new cars in DLC those will come back in veeeeeeerryyyyyy slow periods. I mean when will F50 come back for example? In a year or something?
 
Quick question about the cars that appear in the higher star roulettes: the race spec (think of Racing Modification from GT6) Silvia S15, is that just a spec'd out car that saves you money from doing it yourself, or is that a unique car?

This guy:

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Also the Nismo 350Z; can you get that on the used car dealer/brand central/legendary dealer or is that a roulette only?

What about the safety cars?
 
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ND4SPD
The addition of the 18.5 million Mclaren F1 right after the payout cut and push for mtx's has made me realize how amazing this game is as a simulator.

10/10, Gran Turismo has become the ultimate simulator. It accurately simulates my depression and poorness in real as it does in game!
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Well I just checked Experian and I could get a 0% interest credit card and buy most of the cars that come up for sale.

But I'm not an idiot. I already paid for the game.
 
Team THRT Drift
Quick question about the cars that appear in the higher star roulettes: the race spec (think of Racing Modification from GT6) Silvia S15, is that just a spec'd out car that saves you money from doing it yourself, or is that a unique car?

This guy:

full


Also the Nismo 350Z; can you get that on the used car dealer/brand central/legendary dealer or is that a roulette only?

What about the safety cars?
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There are no roulette only cars as far as I am aware.
 
Only thing saving me from being too disappointed at not being able to buy the F1 immediately is that I know I'll never use it much. It's my favourite car too but in previous GT games I started using it less and less. I tried making lobbies that suited some use for it but hardly anyone wanted anything to do with it. At this point I I would rather try and get some more race cars.
 
I've been playing a lot with Gr.3 races, mainly because well, I like my Vette and because I'm testing the oil/engine wear.

If, for whatever reason, you don't want to race in rally or Gr.4 but you still want some credits, then Gr.3 got you covered!

Again, nothing "meta". This is purely because of fun, because you can't stand the other events or because you can't stop thinking about that lovely Gr.3 engine noise.

Anyway. There's four Gr.3 races with 5 laps, all* of them paying 50k + 25k if you get the clean race bonus.
*La Sarthe is also 5 laps, but 5 laps there equals to more than 18 minutes. It pays like one of the 10 laps race (70k)

Spa-Francorchamps - You can beat it in total time of 12 minutes. Although it's "slow", it's by far the easiest regardless the difficulty you're playing because the AI really struggles with Eau Rouge. The track is wide and overall it's just a cozy 5 laps with an easy clean race bonus.

Lago Maggiore - it's the fatest circuit with a total time of 10:20 minutes. Just be careful with the AI because this one can give you a tiny bit of trouble (or I'm just bad at this track). At the easiest difficulty the AI finished less than 2 seconds behind me and at the hardest difficulty the AI actually came quite close between 0.5-1s! (now that I'm thinking about, I'm really just bad...). Also very easy to get clean race bonus.

Suzuka - total time of 10:30 minutes. Between this and Maggiore, well, pick your poison. The problem with Suzuka is that I find it easy to lose the clean race bonus. The track is tighter and it's easy to collide with the AI, or better saying, the AI colliding with you!


If you're thinking "what about doing one 10-lap race versus doing two 5-lap races?". Those 10-lap races are paying 70k, so that's 105k with clean race bonus

All 10-lap races have tire wear and fuel consumption so you have to pit. Catalunya, Maggiore, Monza and Dragon Trail are 20 minutes minimum. Fiji it's a rainy race, so it's even slower. La Sarthe may be a good alternative, since you can finish in ~18-19 minutes, but that's still 45k credits below 5-lap races, just like Daytona where you can finish in 18 minutes.

TL;DR: basically in ~24 minutes you can do two 5-lap races and earn 150k or one 10-lap race to get 105k.

If you ask me, altough those 10-laps races are really fun (especially Fiji!), right now I prefer the 5-lap races. I think they're fun enough for an hour or so of grinding.
 
MroczMR
Prices are ok. I don't mind 18 milions for F1 or something like that. That is legendary car afterall

The problem is with:
-No way of earning money fast. There should be long or hard races that would give us a lot of money to help us earn this car in matter of days with normal playing (normal means you have work life and can play in the evening not spamming all day )
- Time restrictions... It wouldn't be huge of a problem if economy wouldn't be as broken, but it still makes unnecesery urgency. Legendary cars are quite ok if we could earn money more quickly, but those invitations for brand central are pure nonsense and i don't see why they can't be "premanent"


Oh and I am worried that even with bigger payouts (which can come out in the future) with "legendary cars cycle" after adding loads of new cars in DLC those will come back in veeeeeeerryyyyyy slow periods. I mean when will F50 come back for example? In a year or something?
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Okay, interesting ideas.

Had to google McLaren F1 price if it is realistic. Sadly it is, wow. Sold for 20,5 million dollars at 2021 Pebble Beach auction 😳 I stand corrected. If you don't like the 18 mil price tag for McLaren F1, PD does not care 😅
 
Oh, I wonder why score is even lower than yesterday. Probably some trolls without 18 million for the classic.

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-Fred-
-You get credits rewards [in Forza] for every downloaded tune/design you have, if you're good like @PJTierney you can make millions and millions just by painting cars.
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Can confirm; I usually have over 100,000,000cr within a month or two of each game’s release, every time I log in (usually once every few days) that goes up by another few million. One time I didn’t play Forza Horizon 4 for 6 months, but when I came back this was my payout:

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By then the game’s economy is invisible to me; I could buy a car for a few million, upgrade it, and then delete it after 1 race if I don’t like it.
 
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PJTierney
Can confirm; I usually have over 100,000,000cr within a month or two of each game’s release, every time I log in (usually once every few days) that goes up by another few million. By then the game’s economy is invisible to me; I could buy a car for a few million, upgrade it, and then delete it after 1 race if I don’t like it.
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It's the game for car lovers. You can test them all.
 
PJTierney
One time I didn’t play Forza Horizon 4 for 6 months, but when I came back this was my payout:
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I'm not even a content creator and after booting up FH5 since a few months I was greeted with enough wheelspins and gifts that resulted in about three dozen cars and 3 million in credits. And that was what, three months worth? Games don't have to be stingy with rewards, at all.
 
ND4SPD
The addition of the 18.5 million Mclaren F1 right after the payout cut and push for mtx's has made me realize how amazing this game is as a simulator.

10/10, Gran Turismo has become the ultimate simulator. It accurately simulates my depression and poorness in real as it does in game!
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