I never try to suppress criticism.
Then what is whining about how people are being too mean to Polyphony, when this forum, aside from a few scattered instances, has been mostly level headed and describing the very real problems the game has faced? And seriously using an example of a forum that, for all intents and purposes, is an echo chamber that doesn't even follow the own rules it sets by its moderation staff?
Forgetting that the admin of this forum more or less shot down your whining about how this forum is too mean to Polyphony in your mind, something which you promptly ignored.
It’s useful to know PD are engaging with the community and addressing issues. Much of the frustration seem to be from a belief PD aren’t listening.
Because
they aren't. If they were, the lobby issues would be fixed ASAP because they actively detract from the game the longer they are allowed to fester, especially considering leagues use private lobbies to run their events, and most of them have moved back to GTS because not only are lobbies there more stable (and have larger grid sizes) but also have more options to use within lobbies. If they were intent on listening, they would have eliminated micro-transactions from the game the second that the firestorm about the in game economy reached the fever pitch that it did, much like other games wrapped up in brazen monetization strategies. They didn't, and now they are likely doubling down on it, and we're slowly slipping back to the same point the game was at during launch.
So yeah, they don't listen. They've not listened in nearly a decade, and Kaz marches to the beat of his own drum, and now that cavalier attitude towards not changing the series to match the competition has come back to bite them, and has put them in about as bad of a position as you can get, and they
still show no real sign of ever wisening up and trying to fix the game on the macro level.
Because GT7 wasn't the only one that the game had disastrous launch
Uh huh.
It doesn't matter which game it is, be it GT7, GTS, or whatever else PD is cooking up with, PD is all about catastrophic launch
So which is it then?
Once again, because you haven't gotten it through your thick skull then, the failures of GT7 does not at all take away from the fact that the previous games, up to GT4, were good games that provided a lot to the racing game genre at the time. You can, and absolutely should, look at the games through the context of when they were made, the genre as it stood when they released, and in some ways, look at it through the hindsight of the history of the series that comes after the games. What you shouldn't do is what you have done more or less since GT7 released, where you throw the baby out with the bath water and try to posit that the entire series was never good, and that we all should have known back in 2001 or whatever that the GT series was never going to be good.
so their games should be evaluated at launch only
This is an absolutely moronic stance to take, especially in the reality of game development being iterative in 2022 and indeed, has been the case for more then a decade at this point. Games should be evaluated both at launch, and at the end, with evaluation at the end taking into account all that has come since launch. Can GT7 be saved? Sure, and I think all of us deep down want that to be the case. Have polyphony shown that they can fix the game? Not at all. But we won't know that to be the case until the game reaches end of life.
But that this talking point is coming from the guy who became so ******** mad at GT7 that he threw the baby out with the bath water and said that the series was never good, and we all should have known that this was going to be the case in 2001 when the series was at it's highest point commercially, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
