Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[BigSarj]

Do we also pretend we haven't already paid full retail price for the privilege of beta testing the game?

Yes, obviously. I can't think of any better way for us to alleviate the foulness of the situation. Of course, all PD has to do is make a relevant tweet or two but that is certainly too much to ask.

 

[GTboyz]

There is an easy solution to all of this. Well, not quite, but it helps:. just pretend we're beta testing the game.

Yeah, paid AAA game price to beta test the game

 

[AutumnalGlow]

where people like our resident poo poo guy hang out to crap on them.

You really can't handle criticism toward Forza either? Why are you even on forums?

I'm on forums to talk about games I play with other players. Each day I see you complain that people are doing exactly that.

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

There is an easy solution to all of this. Well, not quite, but it helps:. just pretend we're beta testing the game.

Wouldn't we all be eternal beta testers every time a game gets a patch? 🤔

 

[Yard_Sale]

Yeah, paid AAA game price to beta test the game

Considering how many man-hours go into development of any game these days, NOT TO MENTION how expensive the corresponding salaries for said man-hours are, it’s a marvel that games are still as cheap as they are…. Relatively speaking.

Oh yeah… we get free DLC too, so there’s that.

But then again, this is just the business-savy side of me talking

 

[GTboyz]

Considering how many man-hours go into development of any game these days, NOT TO MENTION how expensive the corresponding salaries for said man-hours are, it’s a marvel that games are still as cheap as they are…. Relatively speaking.

Oh yeah… we get free DLC too, so there’s that.

But then again, this is just the business-savy side of me talking

 

[CodeRedR51]

Wouldn't we all be eternal beta testers every time a game gets a patch? 🤔

Yes.

 

[Neris__]

Oh yeah… we get free DLC too, so there’s that.

🤣

We paid for game with lacking content and now Polyphony is dripping content (free DLCs) that should be released in March.

 

[DS13_supergt]

Today i was working on my 2016 Keihin NSX replica, i made a lot of progress, just to find out that when i saved the livery it did not render.
The disappointment was a lot, rip.
Did anyone have the same problem?

 

[tankuroded]

🤣

We paid for game with lacking content and now Polyphony is dripping content (free DLCs) that should be released in March.

Some even say the drip should have even be part of GT Sport at launch (if not in it's updates).

 

[Try_Rebooting]

I just bought this game a week ago. I haven't competed in sport mode yet, which is the only reason I got the game. I couldn't care less about the GT7's career mode. I take it there is no dynamic weather, dynamic time day in the sport mode races (I don't mean the weekly races). Also, the sport mode page doesn't say what time of day the race starts at.

 

[B80]

When Playground Games announced their new liaison, they chose to do it on r/forza, where the community is far more supportive of them, than on their own forums, where people like our resident poo poo guy hang out to crap on them.

Many studios don't have communication with the forums because they just can't be arsed anymore. Why would they? And they have a point. The market supports their work. Better to plan content based on metrics than on what a bunch of nutjobs say on the internet.

And not just in gaming. You'd believe the BMW M3 was a flop because of the beaver teeth, but the car's been selling well regardless: https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/01/13/bmw-m-record-sales-2021/. Most internet complainers don't even own a BMW and will never own one. Who would BMW rather listen to, the angry American boomer who complains they don't make cars like the E36 M3 anymore or the Chinese businessman who would happily buy the latest and best from Munich?

There's so much talk about metaverse being "the future"... well, the metaverse is NOW. It's whatever warped fictional reality internet dwellers like us have created for ourselves, completely disconnected from the actual reality.

If any company is somewhat customer focused (most claim to be of course) and intersted in improving their product,they should be monitoring to some degree to get an insight into how their product is bring received by tge market.

I'm not involved with it, but where I work they use some method to monitor feeling by filtering out tge extremely negative and positive feedback, then work with the below to above average feedback.

 

[Lux Klonoa]

I take it there is no dynamic weather, dynamic time day in the sport mode races

No dynamic weather yet as far as I've seen, but there's been a few night-to-morning races as well as dusk-to-night. In both the Dailies and the championships.

Makes the races utterly spectacular to watch, IMO.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

You really can't handle criticism toward Forza either? Why are you even on forums?

I'm on forums to talk about games I play with other players. Each day I see you complain that people are doing exactly that.

lol

All I see you doing is complaining, whether here or elsewhere. Never a positive post, never a constructive criticism. When you don't agree with something, you resort to petty behavior. It's because of people like you that neither PD, nor PG, nor T10, nor whichever studio wants to interact with players anymore.

I see you got triggered real good, which further exposes how childish you are.

If any company is somewhat customer focused (most claim to be of course) and intersted in improving their product,they should be monitoring to some degree to get an insight into how their product is bring received by tge market.

I'm not involved with it, but where I work they use some method to monitor feeling by filtering out tge extremely negative and positive feedback, then work with the below to above average feedback.

And they're right in doing that. I mean, the target demographic of Forza Horizon today is completely different from the people who post online complaining about the game.

As a matter of fact, there's a general disconnection between hardcore fans and the general public. Profit is where there's the most people. So the general public comes first. It's why T10 showcased graphics in the new FM trailer, not the career mode or the upgrade system or even the customization.

Every videogame today is fully datamined by its developers/publishers in order to determine where to push the game. Of course, sometimes this data is misinterpreted by developers, but this data constitutes what the "silent majority" is and where the most investment will go.

 

[AutumnalGlow]

triggered

k

Nah actually, let's go into this.

All I see you doing is complaining, whether here or elsewhere. Never a positive post, never a constructive criticism. When you don't agree with something, you resort to petty behavior. It's because of people like you that neither PD, nor PG, nor T10, nor whichever studio wants to interact with players anymore.

I see you got triggered real good, which further exposes how childish you are.

You really went looking for my posts on another forum? A forum I don't even post on regularly? Just so you could try to call me petty? And for what, because I criticize games when they **** up massively? I have nothing positive to say about GT7 because the game sucks. Then you're gonna go on and call me petty after you searched through my posts on another forum. Wanna talk about childish? Take a look at your own behavior. You repeatedly spew ******** and disappear after you're called out on it.

And then thinking you've won something because you feel that you've "triggered" someone. Are you a teen on Twitter in 2016? There's nothing to win here, you know. There's nothing left for you to lose either, because you've consistently thrown away any dignity.

You didn't exactly respond to what I said either. You just declared I was "triggered" because I pointed out how absolutely obnoxious you are whenever someone dares to criticize your lord and savior Kaz. So I'll ask again.

What are you doing on these forums? What do you hope to get out of your time here? Are you some bizarre troll? A fan blinded by your love of a franchise and a man who doesn't know you exist and sees you as nothing more than an extra $70? Do you actually hope to discuss anything at all, or do you just want to whine whenever someone criticizes your beloved franchises?

 

[Silver Arrows]

lol

All I see you doing is complaining, whether here or elsewhere. Never a positive post, never a constructive criticism. When you don't agree with something, you resort to petty behavior. It's because of people like you that neither PD, nor PG, nor T10, nor whichever studio wants to interact with players anymore.

I see you got triggered real good, which further exposes how childish you are.

This is coming from the guy who ignores any and all comments against the utterly wrong ramblings he posts, whether they be from moderators or others.

Glass houses, son.

but this data constitutes what the "silent majority" is and where the most investment will go.

And when that data is in lock step with the supposed 'hardcore' player base that you conveniently ignore in this case, what does that mean for your point?

 

[FPV MIC]

snip* actively nerfing grind tactics in order to force people into micro-transactions.

How do you know that was the reason? It seemed more of a by-product of fixing an glaring issue with the pp calculations that was affecting Sport Mode and many other parts of the game more-so than a deliberate ploy to force people into micro-transactions, especially as when they did fix it on their second attempt they also added some higher paying events.

Edit: Just remembered... they did do it to the Rally Event pay-outs. My bad

 

[tankuroded]

How do you know that was the reason? It seemed more of a by-product of fixing an glaring issue with the pp calculations that was affecting Sport Mode and many other parts of the game more-so than a deliberate ploy to force people into micro-transactions, especially as when they did fix it on their second attempt they also added some higher paying events.

Edit: Just remembered... they did do it to the Rally Event pay-outs. My bad

"actively" implies the Tomahawk grind was their second further attempt at that - the rally payouts was the first.

 

[DJFridge]

Jeez, there's some people on here obviously having really bad days. Here's a digital hug for you all

 

[Lux Klonoa]

Jeez, there's some people on here obviously having really bad days. Here's a digital hug for you all

As much as it makes me want to post less and read less, unfortunately, it's the norm for some of these people. One look at their post history is all you need.

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

As much as it makes me want to post less and read less, unfortunately, it's the norm for some of these people. One look at their post history is all you need.

Some complaints are hilarious tho, ngl.

 

[Lux Klonoa]

Some complaints are hilarious tho, ngl.

Yeah, some of them indeed are. But most of the time, they're just annoying, unnecessary, or nonsensical. Sometimes a combo of them all.

 

[HarVee]

Glad to be of service y'all!


(Actually I'm not that bad, just thought I'd joke about it given the avatar.)

 

[Samcastor]

Many posters here will simply never be satisfied, and that is OK but you have to realize that you cannot expect any dev to interact on a forum where the tone is outright hostile and childish on most days. You people seriously think saying someone is incompetent/lazy when trying to "give feedback" is going to be received well? They have avenues to get feedback and I am sure they might even browse forums from time to time but they do not have a responsibility to post here.

 

[Nielsen]

Yeah, some of them indeed are. But most of the time, they're just annoying, unnecessary, or nonsensical. Sometimes a combo of them all.

And then we have the complaints about the complaints. 😑

 

[Nowax]

And then we have the complaints about the complaints. 😑

And then we have the complaints about the complaints regarding the complaints!

 

[Silver Arrows]

Many posters here will simply never be satisfied, and that is OK but you have to realize that you cannot expect any dev to interact on a forum where the tone is outright hostile and childish on most days.

Considering the fact that the last time Polyphony interacted on this specific forum, in any capacity, was more then a decade ago for a AMA that Kaz ignored that left both the site and Jordan with egg on their faces, even if it was because people are 'hostile' and 'childish' they wouldn't bother to respond anyway because Polyphony operates in an echo chamber where they seemingly want their confused and galaxy brained design choices supported in a public setting.

That it's getting to the point where some people want to pass the buck onto those ungrateful, mean fans for Polyphony's own actions in getting GT7 to the state that it's in currently is hilarious, and shows just how deep the cope runs in trying to pass things off to anyone else instead of holding Polyphony accountable like the rest of the forum, and indeed the internet, has done.

 

[Lux Klonoa]

Many posters here will simply never be satisfied, and that is OK but you have to realize that you cannot expect any dev to interact on a forum where the tone is outright hostile and childish on most days. You people seriously think saying someone is incompetent/lazy when trying to "give feedback" is going to be received well? They have avenues to get feedback and I am sure they might even browse forums from time to time but they do not have a responsibility to post here.

Yeah, pretty much what I said. Especially since saying "lazy dev" is actually a bannable offense on a certain popular gaming forum (because it's wildly inaccurate). And especially since so many people here want Kaz fired or to step down, asking for his removal ever since GT5.

I mean, if Kaz is going to step down, then it's gonna be of his own decision and/or due to old age. In his 60s at the very least. Not because some randoms on a forum want him to.

But I digress.

 

[HyperSpeeder]

k

Nah actually, let's go into this.

You really went looking for my posts on another forum? A forum I don't even post on regularly? Just so you could try to call me petty? And for what, because I criticize games when they ** up massively? I have nothing positive to say about GT7 because the game sucks. Then you're gonna go on and call me petty after you searched through my posts on another forum. Wanna talk about childish? Take a look at your own behavior. You repeatedly spew ****** and disappear after you're called out on it.

And then thinking you've won something because you feel that you've "triggered" someone. Are you a teen on Twitter in 2016? There's nothing to win here, you know. There's nothing left for you to lose either, because you've consistently thrown away any dignity.

You didn't exactly respond to what I said either. You just declared I was "triggered" because I pointed out how absolutely obnoxious you are whenever someone dares to criticize your lord and savior Kaz. So I'll ask again.

What are you doing on these forums? What do you hope to get out of your time here? Are you some bizarre troll? A fan blinded by your love of a franchise and a man who doesn't know you exist and sees you as nothing more than an extra $70? Do you actually hope to discuss anything at all, or do you just want to whine whenever someone criticizes your beloved franchises?

I hope to have a laugh seeing you make a fool out of yourself by behaving like a 5-year-old crapping on posts you don't like.

And let's just say I "stumbled" on your posts. Stalking nutjobs on the internet is for losers.

 

[Suzuki-Cara]

Many posters here will simply never be satisfied, and that is OK but you have to realize that you cannot expect any dev to interact on a forum where the tone is outright hostile and childish on most days. You people seriously think saying someone is incompetent/lazy when trying to "give feedback" is going to be received well? They have avenues to get feedback and I am sure they might even browse forums from time to time but they do not have a responsibility to post here.

I've been around a lot of forums, and a general rule of thumb, is the most vocal tend to be ones that complain. As long as you keep that in mind whenever entering a thread discussion, you'll do fine sifting on through.

I'd imagine PD does quite a lot of sifting.