Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[Dave A]

I would agree that they are holding content in the form of races back on purpose. I would surmise this is solely for the purpose of prolonging the life of the game through release of content. Much like tech companies do with products to maxamize $$$. Do I like it? No. Do I get it, and therefore accepting of it? Yes.

But there's no reason it couldn't have launched with a fully fledged race selection and still been expanded on.

What they've done is killed my interest in playing game early. Am I accepting of it? No. Because if I were I'd be encouraging them and other developers to do the same thing again.

 

[Yard_Sale]

It doesn't sound like you do. I'm not suggesting they specifically prioritised adding the price increases or that they took a lot of effort. I'm saying they pushed that update through even though it goes directly against the feedback they are receiving and supposedly listening to. Clearly they're not listening, or the price increase would have been held off until more events and other ways to earn money were in place.

If they are listening, they're not responding in a positive manner.

Given what little we collectively know as a community, I would agree with all of this

 

[Silver Arrows]

And not a lot of people care about this. Outside of the twitter-sphere, and the relatively few that are scattered throughout the various forums. That’s it.

Most of the player base doesn’t even know this is a “problem”

Considering the fact that A: the general player base outside of social media aren't stupid and B: they know when they are being held over the barrel to put in more money into the game in order to get anywhere worthwhile, your reasoning is just insulting.

You also say this, with your whole chest, like the game doesn't have a very noticeable hyperlink with every credit spending action in the game nudging you towards the Playstation Store to buy more micro-transactions, and no way to disable said messages. And that the game is wholly online only, in order to facilitate that message showing up in every credit spending action.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Considering the fact that A: the general player base outside of social media aren't stupid and B: they know when they are being held over the barrel to put in more money into the game in order to get anywhere worthwhile, your reasoning is just insulting.

You also say this, with your whole chest, like the game doesn't have a very noticeable hyperlink with every credit spending action in the game nudging you towards the Playstation Store to buy more micro-transactions, and no way to disable said messages. And that the game is wholly online only, in order to facilitate that message showing up in every credit spending action.

I don’t think the player base is stupid. I just think they either don’t care, or don’t know. Sorry if my opinion triggered you.

And to the MTX’s, I didn’t even notice them in GTS or GT7 till others pointed them out….. which I found out on this forum. Like the other 95% of people who play a game like this, I’m just pressing “x” as fast as I can to get back to the main menu so I can do the next race. I’m not looking at the fine print. Just like I’m sure the majority of the player base could give a fork what PD says in the update notes

 

[Techlet]

And to the MTX’s, I didn’t even notice them in GTS or GT7 till others pointed them out….. which I found out on this forum. Like the other 95% of people who play a game like this, I’m just pressing “x” as fast as I can to get back to the main menu so I can do the next race. I’m not looking at the fine print. Just like I’m sure the majority of the player base could give a fork what PD says in the update notes

When the game first launched, there were massive ad banners for MTX right on the game's PS home screen.

 

[StealthVel]

When the game first launched, there were massive ad banners for MTX right on the game's PS home screen.

And that's it. I'd personally understand the complaints if it was like the offline warning in GT Sport. Appearing as a dialog on every screen.

 

[Techlet]

And that's it. I'd personally understand the complaints if it was like the offline warning in GT Sport. Appearing as a dialog on every screen.

That and a prompt to buy MTX every time you spend/earn credits.

 

[05XR8]

Should start an MTX thread: ”Do the prompts annoy you? Yes or No.” Unless people want to have another 809 pages of MTX chat right here. Doesn’t annoy me. Next poster?

 

[Nielsen]

Should start an MTX thread: ”Do the prompts annoy you? Yes or No.” Unless people want to have another 809 pages of MTX chat right here. Doesn’t annoy me. Next poster?

This is more than enough: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/have-you-purchased-microtransactions-in-gt7.406349/

 

[Yard_Sale]

When the game first launched, there were massive ad banners for MTX right on the game's PS home screen.

Yup. I missed that. I was too excited to play the game to even take notice.

 

[05XR8]

This is more than enough: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/have-you-purchased-microtransactions-in-gt7.406349/

There’s never enough in these forums. I already posted in that one. There should, at the least, be about four others.

 

[Yard_Sale]

There’s never enough in these forums. I already posted in that one. There should, at the least, be about four others.

Same for the complaint threads. @Jordan or @Famine really should make a sticky catch-all “gripe thread”. But they won’t and I don’t blame them! All the gripe threads are great for business!!!

 

[Dave A]

Same for the complaint threads. @Jordan or @Famine really should make a sticky catch-all “gripe thread”. But they won’t and I don’t blame them! All the gripe threads are great for business!!!

I think you'll find it's a forum, this is how forums work. If you apply that to everything rather than just the topics you dislike you'll find very few threads.

Can only have that 1 scapes photos thread after all.

 

[Yard_Sale]

I was joking

 

[Famine]

I was joking

Then that should go in the Jokes Thread.

 

[Tassie_tiger]

I think you'll find it's a forum, this is how forums work. If you apply that to everything rather than just the topics you dislike you'll find very few threads.

Can only have that 1 scapes photos thread after all.

Then this thread needs to be renamed to 'GT7 general discussion'.
Because every time I check here the discussion is not about the "latest news", just some whinge-fest repeated from other threads many times over.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Then this thread needs to be renamed to 'GT7 general discussion'.
Because every time I check here the discussion is not about the "latest news", just some whinge-fest repeated from other threads many times over.

When there is news, it will be reported in this thread, and likely in five other threads considering how fast it gets reposted.

And if you don't like the fact that people aren't happy with the state of the game, then feel free to ignore it and stick to topics that don't devolve into 'whinge-fests'.

 

[Tassie_tiger]

When there is news, it will be reported in this thread, and likely in five other threads considering how fast it gets reposted.

And if you don't like the fact that people aren't happy with the state of the game, then feel free to ignore it and stick to topics that don't devolve into 'whinge-fests'.

So please do enlighten me.
When exactly did micro transactions, be it from GT6 or GT Sport or GT7 become 'latest news'?

 

[Silver Arrows]

When exactly did micro transactions, be it from GT6 or GT Sport or GT7 become 'latest news'?

Your answer is in the name of this very thread. It's a latest news and discussion thread. The news, and discussion, will ebb and flow as time goes along. Again, if you don't like it, stop reading it.

The fact of the matter is that the micro-transactions are, by Polyphony's own admission in sticking by them even after the initial firestorm of the in game economy (which was very much designed around a full integration of MTX's) a major aspect of the game. They can, and should, be criticized.

 

[Tassie_tiger]

Your answer is in the name of this very thread. It's a latest news and discussion thread. The news, and discussion, will ebb and flow as time goes along. Again, if you don't like it, stop reading it.

The fact of the matter is that the micro-transactions are, by Polyphony's own admission in sticking by them even after the initial firestorm of the in game economy (which was very much designed around a full integration of MTX's) a major aspect of the game. They can, and should, be criticized.

Sure. You keep pushing that 'micro transaction in GT7' thing you've got going.
I'm sure you'll convince someone else other than yourself sooner or later that it's the worst thing to ever hit gaming.

Meanwhile, I looked into this thread to check out the "latest news" and the discussions regarding that topic.
Guess which threads I would check out if I wished to read about micro transactions.

 

[ScottPuss20]

That experience just confirmed to me that not giving us a single player campaign on the scale of GT4 or even GT3 is a very deliberate decision by PD and has nothing to do with time or resource constraints. They could add literally dozens of events at once if they really wanted to but they’d rather give us a career mode that can be completed in a couple weeks even by people with limited free time and just drip feed the rest to us later every month.

Who knew? Of course it's a deliberate decision.

Well this thread turned to a 💩show...

Welcome to GT Planet!

 

[Nielsen]

I was joking

Ah, the emergent default response to “you’re wrong”.

 

[Yard_Sale]

I think you'll find it's a forum, this is how forums work. If you apply that to everything rather than just the topics you dislike you'll find very few threads.

Can only have that 1 scapes photos thread after all.

Ah, the emergent default response to “you’re wrong”.

Nope, was literally responding to the first quoted post.

I just forgot to write said post in my response

All the other stuff, I stand by

 

[Nielsen]

Nope, was literally responding to the first quoted post.

I just forgot to write said post in my response

All the other stuff, I stand by

I really don’t know what that has to do with what I said, but I’ll just stop here in case this is another concealed joke in the making.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Who knew? Of course it's a deliberate decision.

Tell that to the people who insist delaying the game would have solved problems like this.

 

[Yard_Sale]

I really don’t know what that has to do with what I said, but I’ll just stop here in case this is another concealed joke in the making.

Me neither. Sometimes (oftentimes) I confuse even myself. ADD to the max I am

 

[JTB10000]

We have to be getting an actual new track this month, right?

 

[O604]

There's a new update for ShareFACTORY (for PS5 only). They added what they call Bits, a quick way to edit and share clips. I can see this being very popular.

New update for Share Factory Studio unleashes Bits on PS5 today

Introducing Bits, a new editing experience to personalize and share your gameplay moments.

blog.playstation.com

 

[Greatbee]

 

[o000o]

So which is it then?

I'm the one who have been wondering which it is. Not just a game, but also in general complete list of GT traits that can be appreciated.

This is an absolutely moronic stance to take, especially in the reality of game development being iterative in 2022 and indeed, has been the case for more then a decade at this point. Games should be evaluated both at launch, and at the end, with evaluation at the end taking into account all that has come since launch. Can GT7 be saved? Sure, and I think all of us deep down want that to be the case. Have polyphony shown that they can fix the game? Not at all. But we won't know that to be the case until the game reaches end of life.

If GT7 by chance of miracle did get saved, it could be dismissed as something that can be done at the beginning, right? Not that I'm disagreeing with that, but it'd only mean that PD is developing games in Patent Motor Wagen pace as usual (deserved criticism) to only being able to give full GT7 at untold time ahead. Not to mention if it's repeated in any next GT's release. And the game at launch is supposed to be able to stand on its own game even without updates right, while the updates is still given to improve it further, not fixing a premature game? As GTS wasn't like that either.

But that this talking point is coming from the guy who became so ******** mad at GT7 that he threw the baby out with the bath water and said that the series was never good, and we all should have known that this was going to be the case in 2001 when the series was at it's highest point commercially, I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

Mad at GT7? I've always struggled to find what's appealing in GT franchise compared to other competitors way before GT7 was released. I did defend points in the franchise before that I think were wrongly bashed, design choices that I personally think are good or distinct, or something that I want to keep but can be given some tweaks to be better (instead of being removed due to "outdated" or such). But that can be something that I'm just biased regarding GT feature, stuck in the past, and can't move on from those old GTs....riiight? I did insist that I'm against nostalgia bias and I'd want to explain why I think those features are good, but that can be perhaps handwaved as a denial. Because saying anything positive about this franchise, even if it's something earned, is discouraged in general, and it's encouraged to shot down those.