Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

[SestoScudo]

Another variant of Catalunya they are really are doing their best to piss on their own fans.

 

[silverman_GT]

Can't wait to get my hands on the F688/S MP4/4!

 

[Nowax]

Well they’ve just released the update trailer so make of that if you will:

• Catalunya (No Chicane Layout/National Layout/Rallycross Layout)
• McLaren MP4/4 ‘88
• Pontiac GTO “The Judge” ‘69
• Porsche Cayman GT4 ‘16

I apologise if this isn’t the actual thread to post this…

Eh... Not quite what I expected, but that rallycross circuit might be fun to drive on. I'm more into the patch notes though!

 

[NRA]

Another set of layouts already completed before launch.

 

[dkstz]

Anything on new events or we'll have to wait for the full patch notes?

 

[snc]

Introducing the 'Gran Turismo 7' August Update: Adding a Historic F1 Race Car and New Catalunya Circuit Layouts - Update - Gran Turismo 7 - gran-turismo.com

Gran Turismo 7 has received an update on 25 August, 2022.

www.gran-turismo.com

 

[Imari]

There’s a world of difference between a high cost, specialist product, like iRacing. And a mass market title such as Gran Turismo. To this day it’s near impossible to find clean racing on public lobbies with console racing titles.

I’m sure even the most outlandish ideas have been tried in one title or another. What matters is the outcomes for the player. Whether that’s through PD’s penalty system & messaging. Or the community policing itself.

Right, but that's what distinguishes innovation from just adding features to a game. Adding good features from a niche product into a mass market product isn't innovation, it's just being sensible.

GTS taking the iRacing safety/speed rating system and mildly tweaking it wasn't innovative, it was a sensible idea that several other games also did before them. Just because they rolled it out to a lot of people doesn't make it innovative, it just makes it widespread.

It baffles me that apparently so many people seem to think "innovation" = "whatever I think is good". It has a specific meaning that is particularly relevant to development. Misusing it doesn't help anyone.

P.S. If you read the posts on GTP, you could easily come to the conclusion that for a lot of people it's near impossible to find clean racing on GTS/GT7 as well. Even penalty/safety systems aren't a foolproof defence against human nature.

Likewise with AI learning. Milestone’s system manages the pace of riders. With strange braking points and speeds at different difficulty levels to hit a certain time.

That’s not of interest to me. Same with Sony/PD boasting about Sophy AI beating top players times. Where it gets interesting is racing in a realistic manner and the possibility to scale performance levels without the need for rubber banding.

Various forms of adaptive AI have been around for years. Rubber banding has been around since GT1, which is why Polyphony got mocked for keeping it around for so long.

When Sony AI manage to use ML AI to scale performance levels reliably to a set pace and still have good racecraft, that will be interesting. Depending on how they do it, it might be innovative. If Polyphony then manage to implement that in a game on consumer hardware, that could also be innovative.

At the moment you're talking about things that haven't been done yet as if they're completed projects.

 

[Doncarlone]

Well they’ve just released the update trailer so make of that if you will:

• Catalunya (No Chicane Layout/National Layout/Rallycross Layout)
• McLaren MP4/4 ‘88
• Pontiac GTO “The Judge” ‘69
• Porsche Cayman GT4 ‘16

I apologise if this isn’t the actual thread to post this…

What a dissapointment the track...

 

[alex511]

What a dissapointment the track...

Next update, we get this in reverse. Perfect addition.

 

[symaski62]

What a dissapointment the track...

3 New Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya Layouts
"Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya Rallycross Layout"
"Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya National Layout"
"Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya GP Layout No Chicane"

 

[Dibs]

Nice, Barcelona-Catalunya is one of my favorite tracks (I know I'm in the minority) so I'll definitely enjoy these new layouts.

 

[alex511]

3 New Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya Layouts
"Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya Rallycross Layout"
"Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya National Layout"
"Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya GP Layout No Chicane"

They can add 10 layout of that, but that doenst't chance anything that it's a bad joke as content update.

 

[TheRacer94]

Where ís seasonal events And sell cars

 

[alex511]

Where ís seasonal events And sell cars

Than, when uncle Kaz sais, you are allowed to get that.

 

[GTP_reddevil]

Next update, we get this in reverse. Perfect addition.

I heard we might be getting a secret sideways layout next update…

 

[GlamFM]

Leave it to PD to find new and exciting ways to disappoint. More Rally wasn’t even on my list.

I refuse to believe that there is a single person ad PD that thinks their take on Rally is good or worth anybodys time.

More of the worst GT7 has to offer. Thanks PD.

 

[A_Higher_Place]

The new cayman looks fun to drive but I cannot imagine the events associated with these new layouts will be much fun for me. This feels like the most lackluster update yet.

 

[Nowax]

Well... This is much better than 24h spa layout lol

 

[symaski62]

They can add 10 layout of that, but that doenst't chance anything that it's a bad joke as content update.

Introducing the 'Gran Turismo 7' August Update: Adding a Historic F1 Race Car and New Catalunya Circuit Layouts - Gran Turismo™ 7 - gran-turismo.com

Gran Turismo 7 has received an update on 25 August, 2022.

www.gran-turismo.com

Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya GP Layout No Chicane
Total Length: 4,730m, Elevation Change: 30m, Number of corners: 14, Longest Straight: 1,047m

Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya National Layout
Total Length: 2,977m, Elevation Change: 28m, Number of corners: 11, Longest Straight: 862m

Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya Rallycross Layout
Total Length: 1,133m, Elevation Change: 11m, Number of corners: 11, Longest Straight: 148m

 

[G.T.Ace]

I guess I'm the only one here who likes the addition of a proper Rallycross track.

 

[Haitauer]

Rallycross... nice.. 😀 I guess there hasnt been any other dirt/asphalt mixed tracks in Gran Turismo since a while..?

 

[Nowax]

I guess I'm the only one here who likes the addition of a proper Rallycross track.

I like it, too. Again, not what I expected, but it should be fun, at least for me.

 

[Warte]

I hope the patch notes change my perspective, but the update so far seems... weak...

 

[Scaff]

I guess I'm the only one here who likes the addition of a proper Rallycross track.

With GT's loose surface physics and a lack of Rallycross structure it's strongly arguable that it's a waste. I suspect it's not going to actually be accurate, as it will either be with or without the Joker section, rather than actually making correct use of it in Rallycross events.

 

[GlamFM]

I guess I'm the only one here who likes the addition of a proper Rallycross track.

I’d be into that if PD’s rally physics weren’t worst in class.

 

[Saargasm]

When they added the "big-4" grind events, was it known prior to the actual update? As in the same manner that these notes were released the day before the update? I want to so badly hope that when they do the update there will be some new grind events.

 

[Tired Tyres]

What a dissapointment the track...

The no chicane version is better. If it is the old Moto GP layout the would be another corner changed for the better as well. Get used to game as a service where content is trickled in slowly.

 

[queleuleu]

Next update, we get this in reverse. Perfect addition.

Maybe another six months of updates will change the game. I’ll wait for a 20euros copy.

 

[HarVee]

Wait until you all see the patch notes - When PD trolls us again with no car selling.

 

[tankuroded]

People complain about selling cars all day and yet there's still no willingness to, like, file a false advertising class-action lawsuit about it, considering it was on the PS Store page?
*Assuming it does not arrive in this update.