Gran Turismo 7 Releasing in "First Half of 2021"

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You sure there would be much work at the single player side? Or potentially just inserting old events?
Well that depends entirely on whether they just copy and paste the same old single player format yet again or actually try to do something new and interesting. I'm hoping they do the latter, but expecting the former.
 
I still think and this silence underlines it.

Sony HOPES to release it first half 2021 but I am sure they have not even asked Polyphony about this.

cmon - for such a big title they only use this lil side info as release date :odd:

we will see :sly:
 
Sony HOPES to release it first half 2021 but I am sure they have not even asked Polyphony about this.
I'm sure Sony would have discussed it in great depth, Kazunori is of course a Coroprate Executive of Sony Computer Entertainment as well as the president of Polyphony Digital.

There is pretty much zero chance Sony will have plucked "first half 2021" out of unqualified expectation rather than knowing that first half 2021 was what Polyphony were aiming for themselves.
 
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What if the used cars were PS3/PS4 Models?

That could increase numbers... just a little thought of mine. :gtpflag:

The oldest PS3 models are over 12 years old, and didn’t even look that incredible on that console. Is that really suitable for a PS5 game?

PS4 models will (probably) be ported straight over. PD/Kaz has stated quite often that the models used in GTS were made at such a quality that they could be used in future games
 
They should know by now how many cars they are aiming for so why not give this information? Just a short trailer with some new information is not so much to ask for is it...
GT7 with 1000 Cars at Launch is NOT Unrealistic !
Only if they derive from every car a Gr.3, Gr.4, Gr.B and Gr.A. There is no way PD can make 1000 unique cars for GT7. I would be very happy with 500 unique and more different type of cars.
 
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They should know by now how many cars they are aiming for so why not give this information? Just a short trailer with some new information is not so much to ask for is it...

Only if they derive from every car a Gr.3, Gr.4, Gr.B and Gr.A. There is no way PD can make 1000 unique cars for GT7. I would be very happy with 500 unique and more different type of cars.
I believe they have their plan…… And they will show us something at some special event. However with the pandemic still going on, I'm wondering what event would it be (I'm talking about something like Copper Box event of GTS in London.)
 
GT7 with 1000 Cars at Launch is NOT Unrealistic !

GTS is sitting at roughly 340 cars currently. Provided this game comes out on time, it'll be releasing within the next 8 months. Do you really expect the list to inflate by 660 by then?

I believe they have their plan…… And they will show us something at some special event. However with the pandemic still going on, I'm wondering what event would it be (I'm talking about something like Copper Box event of GTS in London.)

I mean, there's the GT Sport FIA Online Finals next month...if the game is on track for release I'd say it's highly probably we'll see GT7 in some kind of way (in turn starting the marketing campaign)
 
GT7 with 1000 Cars at Launch is NOT Unrealistic !
Unless you're implying that they could prot the models from GT4 in GT7 then I'd like to hear why you think 1000 cars at launch is realistic? It's not impossible, but is it a reasonable expectation at this point? Definitely not in my opinion.

They could port the cars from GT4 like they did with GT5 and 6 but we have zero evidence they are doing this and there is no reasonable reason to assume this will happen. That they did it for GT5 and 6 is not by itself valid reason, they didn't for GT Sport and whereas GT5 and 6 came out just a single generation after GT4 we are now a further 2 console generations on from those two games.
 
GT7 with 1000 Cars at Launch is NOT Unrealistic !
Provided they have outsourced a large number of companies and firms to model a huge variety of cars, as well as developed new technologies and methods to produce cars at a consistent quality at a quicker rate of time, I don’t see why that’s unrealistic. But it is too ambitious though, especially given the weird times that this year has brought.

Nowadays the PS2-quality cars in GT4 to GT6 would be almost improbable to add because their graphics and modeling look like they come straight out of Automodellista, unless fully rebuilt as a PS5-spec “hyper-premium” car.

But to be cautious, I expect GT7 to have around 650 to 750 cars at launch, thereabouts. Then with updates throughout its lifespan we can see around 800 to 900 cars. There are currently 336 cars in GT Sport, but had Polyphony went all out on creating content for GT Sport than focus on GT7, the number of cars in GT Sport likely would have been much larger.

Provided GT7’s development started some time after GT Sport’s release, that was a lot of time to add quite a decent number of cars. Whatever was added to GT Sport may have been the start, but Polyphony might have held a number of cars back (which may explain that the volume of updates towards 2019 and this year alone have gradually gotten smaller).

The fact that they’ve begun to outsource can also be a contributing factor. We only know of two so far (ModelingCafe and an Indian computer modeling firm), but there might have been more that only Polyphony knows of.

We don’t know the exact number of Polyphony’s modeling staff, but say if they’ve worked on 100 cars in 2018 alone, then they might be around 50 people, as it would take six months for one car to be complete. But it was once said somewhere that fictional race cars, based on real ones, could take up to a year to create. That, along with their outsourcing efforts could mean around a minimum of 650 to a maximum of around 750 cars at launch is possible.
 
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I mean, there's the GT Sport FIA Online Finals next month...if the game is on track for release I'd say it's highly probably we'll see GT7 in some kind of way (in turn starting the marketing campaign)

I think this is the most likely scenario.
 
No. PS3 premiums and PS4 models from GT Sport.
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The oldest PS3 models are over 12 years old, and didn’t even look that incredible on that console. Is that really suitable for a PS5 game?

PS4 models will (probably) be ported straight over. PD/Kaz has stated quite often that the models used in GTS were made at such a quality that they could be used in future games
 
No. PS3 premiums and PS4 models from GT Sport.

The oldest PS3 models are over 12 years old, and didn’t even look that incredible on that console. Is that really suitable for a PS5 game?

There are quite a number of PS3 premiums that are already in GT Sport that went as far back as GT5 Prologue and yet they still look great there. I'm sure Polyphony will be adding more and more of these cars just as much as they're adding new ones and rebuilding Standard cars.

Since they're already premium and fully-detailed, they'll just need to polish it with the PS5 rendering engine and then they're good to go.
 
There are quite a number of PS3 premiums that are already in GT Sport that went as far back as GT5 Prologue and yet they still look great there. I'm sure Polyphony will be adding more and more of these cars just as much as they're adding new ones and rebuilding Standard cars.

Since they're already premium and fully-detailed, they'll just need to polish it with the PS5 rendering engine and then they're good to go.
Most of older premiums (like the R32 GT-R) had to be redone (if not touched up) for PS4 standards, see the GT6 vs GTS model comparison thread.
 
I don't think the game will release in January or February. I feel like it's too early given the information we have at the moment. I'm expecting the game to release between March 15 and June 30, probably towards the latter half of that period so Sony can prepare for the second round of orders.
 
I don't think the game will release in January or February. I feel like it's too early given the information we have at the moment. I'm expecting the game to release between March 15 and June 30, probably towards the latter half of that period so Sony can prepare for the second round of orders.

An announcement of the release date tends to be 3-7 months before said release date for first party Sony games, so I definitely agree we're looking at March at the earliest at this point.
 
3 months from the announcement would be February, mate, so I wouldn't count that possibility out.

If they announce it in the next ten days and match the shortest timing, sure. Both are pretty unlikely IMO. There was only one recent Sony game announced with an initial date that close on PS4, God Of War. It's usually longer, especially when they've barely shown anything of the game beforehand.

TLOU II - 09/24 for 02/21 - 5 months
Ghosts Of Ts. - 03/05 for 06/26 just under 4 months
Days Gone - 06/07 for 02/22 - 8 months
Death Stranding - 05/29 for 11/08 - 5 months
Spider Man - 04/04 for 09/07 - 5 months
God Of War 01/23 for 04/20 - 3 months
Horizon ZD - 06/06 for 02/28 - 8 months
GT Sport - 05/19 for 11/16 - 6 months
 
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GT7 development may be more focused towards Content than optimisation of engine since they are using GT Sport engine with the PBR Shaders now with Ray-tracing reflections.

For Ray-tracing reflections they seem to be using low res, (checkerboard or maybe DLSS) samples with AI denoising. At 60fps?

Reflections in cars were 240p and 24fps in GT Sport. That's an upgrade already.

They need to improve on environments, still full of 2D trees and poor shaders. Hope to see a improvement on that on the next build, either way I'm excited!


They will definitely improve it they worked hard since June and the game will not be out before April
 
I know this is likely wrong, but a YouTube ad led me to a GT7 pre-order page citing release Dec 31st 2020.
 

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I know what you are talking about. 1:1 steering was present in GT1-3, then GT5-6 (if you set steering sensivity high enough) GT4 and GTS emulates the wheel (=that inside the car) rotation, but this is really hard for your brain to guess exactly right, so countersteering and precise steering is very, very hard.
In GT5 Prologue it was also very pronounciated.
This means that driving fast cars is almost impossible on joypad. Even More against a wheel user.

On the other hand countersteering on joypad in GT5-6 was so easy on joypad againts wheel users (not counting aliens), that it was almost a cheating. :)
I have never struggled with countersteering and precise steering on GTS, but I could never do it on GT5/6.
 
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