Gran Turismo 7 Television Ad Teases More New Circuits

[Lux Klonoa]

Never got the hate for Planetary Go

Mostly because My Chemical Romance is hated around these parts, lol. But musically, at least IMO, the song isn't really aggressive as MOTC or Daiki's songs. It's too bouncy for something as aggressive as racing, really.

But hey, as someone just demonstrated, some also dislike Daiki and MOTC. So it depends on who you ask. Musical tastes truly are subjective. Perhaps moreso than any other type of media, I'd say.

They're awfully generic, way too serious, and I don't see how they relate to the series at all

Haaaard disagree there. For one, I don't think such a song as "5OUL" is generic. Maybe some of his GT6 stuff sound close to generic, but stuff like "Day to Live" and "We Are One"? Far from it, I'd say. And they're also not too serious, they sound just right for racing IMO.

If you mean relating lyrically to the series... uhh, yeah, I can make the same argument about most of the licensed songs in the series. Especially Van Halen's "Panama" for GT4's opener. At least some of Daiki's songs can relate to racing, "We Are One" for example, whose lyrics really fit the 24hr Nurburgring montage that served as GT6's ending.

 

[KilzoneStrife]

This just my comparison but modified Ss5 for the above, i compared it tlo this old file on the forum...

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I believe this to be the top straight section modified but as always I could be wrong!

Yeah I think that's it honestly. 🤔

 

[Eunos_Cosmo]

Mostly because My Chemical Romance is hated around these parts, lol. But musically, at least IMO, the song isn't really aggressive as MOTC or Daiki's songs. It's too bouncy for something as aggressive as racing, really.

But hey, as someone just demonstrated, some also dislike Daiki and MOTC. So it depends on who you ask. Musical tastes truly are subjective. Perhaps moreso than any other type of media, I'd say.


Haaaard disagree there. For one, I don't think such a song as "5OUL" is generic. Maybe some of his GT6 stuff sound close to generic, but stuff like "Day to Live" and "We Are One"? Far from it, I'd say. And they're also not too serious, they sound just right for racing IMO.

If you mean relating lyrically to the series... uhh, yeah, I can make the same argument about most of the licensed songs in the series. Especially Van Halen's "Panama" for GT4's opener. At least some of Daiki's songs can relate to racing, "We Are One" for example, whose lyrics really fit the 24hr Nurburgring montage that served as GT6's ending.

Can you explain?

Yeah, we're runnin' a little bit hot tonight
I can barely see the road from the heat comin' off
Know what I'm sayin'
Uhh, I reach down between my legs n' ease the seat back
She's runnin', I'm flyin'
Right behind in the rearview mirror now
Got the fearin', power steerin'
Pistons poppin', ain't no stoppin' now

This is clearly all about cars and racing!

 

[Magog]

I think the fictional tracks are the games strong suit, real world tracks are great, but not if they're rinsed to death & available in other games. Indeed without an influx of original designed tracks this game would soon get stale fast, thankfully GTS proved they can deliver them. Im curious what the final (hopefully immense) track list will be after 2/3 years of updates, will they remain free in this service game era?

Agreed. Can't wait to get back to Trial Mountain and Deep Forest.

 

[wagnerFAM98]

I think the fictional tracks are the games strong suit, real world tracks are great, but not if they're rinsed to death & available in other games. Indeed without an influx of original designed tracks this game would soon get stale fast, thankfully GTS proved they can deliver them. Im curious what the final (hopefully immense) track list will be after 2/3 years of updates, will they remain free in this service game era?

And I strongly agree with you. I didn't say I don't like fictional tracks, I'm also a huge fan of them. Even some of the latest ones from the series are fantastic, such as Lago Maggiore. What I actually said is that PD shouldn't focus on brand new fictional tracks for GT7's launch. Real world circuits and the classic originals should be the priority. Then, after the release, PD should consider new original tracks.

 

[Lux Klonoa]

Can you explain?



This is clearly all about cars and racing!

...Huh. I could've sworn he was singing about his girl fantasies when I first saw these lyrics years ago. o_o

Very well, then. My point still stands, though.

 

[Auditore]

Mostly because My Chemical Romance is hated around these parts, lol. But musically, at least IMO, the song isn't really aggressive as MOTC or Daiki's songs. It's too bouncy for something as aggressive as racing, really.

But hey, as someone just demonstrated, some also dislike Daiki and MOTC. So it depends on who you ask. Musical tastes truly are subjective. Perhaps moreso than any other type of media, I'd say.


Haaaard disagree there. For one, I don't think such a song as "5OUL" is generic. Maybe some of his GT6 stuff sound close to generic, but stuff like "Day to Live" and "We Are One"? Far from it, I'd say. And they're also not too serious, they sound just right for racing IMO.

If you mean relating lyrically to the series... uhh, yeah, I can make the same argument about most of the licensed songs in the series. Especially Van Halen's "Panama" for GT4's opener. At least some of Daiki's songs can relate to racing, "We Are One" for example, whose lyrics really fit the 24hr Nurburgring montage that served as GT6's ending.

Love how one of my favorite versions of MOTC is found in the credits of gran turismo 5 prologue.The niche of the niche. 😂

 

[Magog]

And I strongly agree with you. I didn't say I don't like fictional tracks, I'm also a huge fan of them. Even some of the latest ones from the series are fantastic, such as Lago Maggiore. What I actually said is that PD shouldn't focus on brand new fictional tracks for GT7's launch. Real world circuits and the classic originals should be the priority. Then, after the release, PD should consider new original tracks.

I would argue but I could use more Autumn Ring and Mid-Field in my life. Why sudden figure 8 hate, PD?

 

[o000o]

Now the question is,with or without the jumps?And some of those roads don't exist anymore

Well this time, the layout change for it would be a necessary one then, and it happened to Deep Forest.

 

[evldave333]

And I strongly agree with you. I didn't say I don't like fictional tracks, I'm also a huge fan of them. Even some of the latest ones from the series are fantastic, such as Lago Maggiore. What I actually said is that PD shouldn't focus on brand new fictional tracks for GT7's launch. Real world circuits and the classic originals should be the priority. Then, after the release, PD should consider new original tracks.

I dont get your stand point of brand new tracks being of lower priority? new is attractive / familiarity brings contempt? there might be quite a backlash if gt7 was gts 2.0 with little new to offer but legacy gran turismo tracks... I think this will already be considered by polyphony and we will get a wide selection from the get go, otherwise there will be a fan backlash (and we are hard to please are we not?)

 

[Scaff]

I dont get your stand point of brand new tracks being of lower priority? new is attractive / familiarity brings contempt? there might be quite a backlash if gt7 was gts 2.0 with little new to offer but legacy gran turismo tracks... I think this will already be considered by polyphony and we will get a wide selection from the get go, otherwise there will be a fan backlash (and we are hard to please are we not?)

Given that GT as a series has not come close to including every real world track on the planet, and has a number that have not been included for a decade.

As such familiarity putting people off isn't quite the factor you make it out to be.

 

[BrunusCL82]

If the GT7 circuit roster is the same as the GT Sport roster, with only the addition of Deep Forest, Daytona, Trial Mountain and High Speed Ring, it will really be a disappointment. But I'm excited about the eventual confirmation of Apricot Hill, Stage Route 5, Watkins Glen and Road Atlanta.

 

[VC30]

If the GT7 circuit roster is the same as the GT Sport roster, with only the addition of Deep Forest, Daytona, Trial Mountain and High Speed Ring, it will really be a disappointment. But I'm excited about the eventual confirmation of Apricot Hill, Stage Route 5, Watkins Glen and Road Atlanta.

Would gladly take more road and less cars.

 

[Imari]

Mostly because My Chemical Romance is hated around these parts, lol. But musically, at least IMO, the song isn't really aggressive as MOTC or Daiki's songs. It's too bouncy for something as aggressive as racing, really.

I think people forget what the music in the first few games was like. Planetary Go is 100% on brand. Before GT5 the games had a wide selection of what was essentially radio friendly pop music of the time.

 

[fernandito]

I prefer GT with their own iconic fictional tracks too.

But I like having The Nordschleife as well.

And if Road Atlanta eventually comes then I won't mind either.

And between Tokyo and the old good Special Routes, I choose the later.

 

[evldave333]

Given that GT as a series has not come close to including every real world track on the planet, and has a number that have not been included for a decade.

As such familiarity putting people off isn't quite the factor you make it out to be.

A valid point real world tracls that have not been included would not be familiar, and would be very welcome literally any fresh tarmac (to the series) is what we crave. I watched a video of hallowed Spa yesterday and couldn't help but feel apathy its just too familiar and to say it genuinely pains me. I put 400 hours in on GTS and similar to each game in the series, wanting something new to the series rather than re-treading old ground is a natural inclination to me at least. There is a possibility this generation we may get close to a racing nirvana. GT7 may span this whole generation as a service, an opportunity to give us some fresh experiences along with the tried and trusted. I would happily drain my wallet and ssd space so lets see where we end up! (Mars rover daily races & championship anyone?! rofl)

 

[Scaff]

A valid point real world tracls that have not been included would not be familiar, and would be very welcome literally any fresh tarmac (to the series) is what we crave.

100%

I watched a video of hallowed Spa yesterday and couldn't help but feel apathy its just too familiar and to say it genuinely pains me. I put 400 hours in on GTS and similar to each game in the series, wanting something new to the series rather than re-treading old ground is a natural inclination to me at least.

I guess I'm lucky in that I don't get that sense with the majority of tracks, Spa included.

There is a possibility this generation we may get close to a racing nirvana. GT7 may span this whole generation as a service, an opportunity to give us some fresh experiences along with the tried and trusted. I would happily drain my wallet and ssd space so lets see where we end up! (Mars rover daily races & championship anyone?! rofl)

If we do them I find it unlikely, for me, that it will be in the shape of a GT title.

Unless GT7 corrects some of its fundamental issues then it will remain, for me, an enjoyable, but flawed title.

 

[Auditore]

I think people forget what the music in the first few games was like. Planetary Go is 100% on brand. Before GT5 the games had a wide selection of what was essentially radio friendly pop music of the time.

There's a few oddballs like Garbage-Heaven is Wide in GT1 Stone Temple Pilots GT2,FatboySlim(that one is very explicit) and A Tribe Called Quest in GT Sport

 

[Imari]

There's a few oddballs like Garbage-Heaven is Wide in GT1 Stone Temple Pilots GT2,FatboySlim(that one is very explicit) and A Tribe Called Quest in GT Sport

First, anything in GT1 can't be an oddball because there isn't any historical context to judge oddity when it's the first game.

Second, how are the rest of those oddballs considering the established context of the franchise's soundtracks when those games came out?

Also, go and listen to the actual version of the Fatboy Slim track that was in GT2. I'm not going to link it because all the videos that came up in a quick Google had the title spelled in full and GTP will show that, but the actual song is not explicit beyond the title which was censored in the game documentation. The original album version is (very), but what ended up in GT2 was a remix that did not include the naughty words.

That song is incredibly iconic for anyone who played the PAL version of GT2, so you're about to get a bunch of old people telling you how wrong you are. You don't actually think a game could get an E rating with a song in the soundtrack that had **** as every fifth word, right?

 

[Pearl Jam]

There are rumours spreading the game will be delayed until Dec 2022, because of Covid pandemic.

There are rumours (that I honestly didn’t start myself) that Ione Wells (BBC political correspondent) wants to have babies with me 😅😍😍

 

[Auditore]

First, anything in GT1 can't be an oddball because there isn't any historical context to judge oddity when it's the first game.

Second, how are the rest of those oddballs considering the established context of the franchise's soundtracks when those games came out?

Also, go and listen to the actual version of the Fatboy Slim track that was in GT2. I'm not going to link it because all the videos that came up in a quick Google had the title spelled in full and GTP will show that, but the actual song is not explicit beyond the title which was censored in the game documentation. The original album version is (very), but what ended up in GT2 was a remix that did not include the naughty words.

That song is incredibly iconic for anyone who played the PAL version of GT2, so you're about to get a bunch of old people telling you how wrong you are. You don't actually think a game could get an E rating with a song in the soundtrack that had **** as every fifth word, right?

Been a while since i listened to the gt 2 version,didn't know there was a clean version,GT Sport got away with the Tribe Called Quest song so i assumed it was the same for earlier GTs

 

[Imari]

There are rumours (that I honestly didn’t start myself) that Ione Wells (BBC political correspondent) wants to have babies with me 😅😍😍

I can entirely independently confirm this through reputable sources.

Been a while since i listened to the gt 2 version,didn't know there was a clean version,GT Sport got away with the Tribe Called Quest song so i assumed it was the same for earlier GTs

What's to "get away with" in Dis Generation? You're not explaining why any of your suggestions should be considered "odd".

 

[Auditore]

I can entirely independently confirm this through reputable sources.

What's to "get away with" in Dis Generation? You're not explaining why any of your suggestions should be considered "odd".

I was mentioning songs that weren't "radio friendly" like you said

 

[Imari]

I was mentioning songs that weren't "radio friendly" like you said

I can only imagine that what's radio friendly in Brazil and what's radio friendly in Australia must be very different, because I'm pretty sure I've heard all the songs you mentioned or similar ones from the same artists on the radio. Garbage, STP, Fatboy Slim, and ATCQ are/were all on the radio regularly because they're very popular artists.

There is nothing in any of the GT versions of those tracks that would stop them being played on the radio here tomorrow. Why would they not be radio friendly? You seem like you're trying really hard to not explain what the problem with these songs is. Just say it instead of beating around the bush.

 

[Samus]

Radio friendly is also not relevant for a game, obviously. Rules for radio and rules that define which video game rating songs fall under are different. GT games are always rated E for Everyone or equivalent so the songs are obviously deemed OK for everyone.

E for everyone: Content is generally suitable for all ages. May contain minimal cartoon, fantasy or mild violence and/or infrequent use of mild language.

 

[Force-Feedback]

Still not seen anything on standing starts. Unless i've missed a confirmation somewhere?

If they're harking back to the original GT's (1-4) then of course the most memorable part of those games are doing the worst style of racing from 5 and 6 called 'Chase the rabbit' as we all know and loathe...

Seriously, watch them not have standing starts and act like everything's fine!

 

[Samus]

Still not seen anything on standing starts. Unless i've missed a confirmation somewhere?

If they're harking back to the original GT's (1-4) then of course the most memorable part of those games are doing the worst style of racing from 5 and 6 called 'Chase the rabbit' as we all know and loathe...

Seriously, watch them not have standing starts and act like everything's fine!

Nope, nothing has been said about the career format at all so far, really. They've said it's coming back with some PR waffle.....that's about it.

 

[Magog]

Still not seen anything on standing starts. Unless i've missed a confirmation somewhere?

If they're harking back to the original GT's (1-4) then of course the most memorable part of those games are doing the worst style of racing from 5 and 6 called 'Chase the rabbit' as we all know and loathe...

Seriously, watch them not have standing starts and act like everything's fine!

Just did a custom race in Sport with the "pro" AI and standing start. It was definitely more enjoyable.

 

[Phaceless_Ph]

There's a few oddballs like Garbage-Heaven is Wide in GT1 Stone Temple Pilots GT2,FatboySlim(that one is very explicit) and A Tribe Called Quest in GT Sport

That song being on GT Sport was a publicity related deal, Tribe Called Quest's PR/label were aggressively pushing their new album at the time of GT Sport original 2016 release date.

 

[GBalao888]

Radio friendly is also not relevant for a game, obviously. Rules for radio and rules that define which video game rating songs fall under are different. GT games are always rated E for Everyone or equivalent so the songs are obviously deemed OK for everyone.

Earlier titles in the PS3 era also included "mild lyrics" in the ESRB rating, but starting from GT Sport, this wasn't the case. This rating back then may suggest that some songs included in the actual game soundtrack may have minor explicit content/innuendos in them, and that there were probably some cut, censored and replaced lyrics, or worse even, they had to use the instrumental versions.

I remember the songs "A.D.H.D." by Kendrick Lamar and "Kimosabe" by BT (from GTA 5 and NFS Underground, respectively), had the word Playstation censored, even in the Playstation versions of these games.

Regarding the "mild lyrics" rating, this may also boil down to the fact you can use custom soundtrack, meaning any song (heck, even annoying, vulgar and extremely inappropriate songs such as "Ice Cream" by Black pink) can be used.

Technically, custom soundtrack is still possible on PS4 and PS5, whether it's by the use of a USB/external hard drive or Spotify, but is no longer in sync with the game menus or races (you'll have to manually play any song you want from there to simulate its effect).