Gran Turismo 7 Update 1.07 Now Available: Tire and Progression Bugs Addressed

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This really isn't going well for PD is it?
Who says that?? I haven't saw 100.000 of people protesting with Posters like "KAZ - stop this madness, MTX are evil" or something like that, nor countrys banning PD for everything. And a game what was bought, stays bought.
PD are essentially at a no-win scenario currently. Both sides of the fan base aren't happy.
What kind of "both" sides of fans are you talking??? They are basically two kind of people who buy GT7. Fans like me and I guess everybody who is commenting here, and played GT since decades, and mommys who got pulled other the desk just to buy they 10-yo beloved son a cool game. They got already FIFA 2022, so this one was the best next.
 
There's one huge difference between buying a 20M Cr car in GT Sport and GT7 - the former basically requires buying one to fully complete the game and get all the trophies, in the latter you buy one because you want it because there's no real necessity for it. Either you'll put in the hours or you don't want it enough after all.
 
What kind of "both" sides of fans are you talking???
What I'm referring to are those that tend to be more positive towards the game and those that are more critical of its shortcomings. This is what I subjectively consider to be both sides. Feel free to disagree, but it's my subjective view and isn't objective so I don't need to explain much more about it.
 
Hoping I can get a refund so I can buy Elden Ring, can't believe I gave GT7 priority over it.
maaaate Elden ring is amazing.. I’d sell my soul to play it again with no knowledge of it 😂
 
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Nah bravs! Elden Ring! (sorry couldn't help it)

@Greycap If the Jag XJ13 and GT40 Mk IV are anything to go by, there's no more 20million cars, they're taking after their real world values.
I mean, this was a great choice. Elden Ring is the best game of 2022 so far and it will likely stay that way. I got all achievements and 100%'ed the game already, it was an easy no life title. So addictive and fun.
 
Someone needs to do a meme of Kaz continuously bowing saying “Gomennasai!”
Hire Hosei Yamazaki to play him for the memes.
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First things first, until yesterday I've been enjoying the game with no major problems, and I really like it.
But asking for a permanent Internet connection is disrespectful and stupid too.
I paid 100€ for the game and I must (or should) be able to play it whenever I want especially because I play single-player only, for now.
 
So many people going for refunds I can just post this again on Monday, only with minus signs.

 
Yup, I'm aware of it, I love Fromsoft games (Bloodborne is probably my favorite game) but I could only buy one and I went with GT7, feel like an idiot now.
I want to love GT7, I want to really dig into the Sport mode and play a lot of competitive racing, but holy hell is PD always making it difficult and putting up completely pointless barriers for absolutely no reason. Every single GT game since GT5, PD has made some really bad design decisions that are confusing as to how they thought were a good idea.
 
There's folk talking about returning the game I've seen that have been AVID supporters of GT since I joined this forum a decade ago. (They probably been supporters longer than that tbh) it says A WHOLE LOT when these folk are ALREADY considering returning the game 2 weeks in.

Smh. Never thought I'd see the day but I completely understand. PD gotta get it together fr.
 
I want to love GT7, I want to really dig into the Sport mode and play a lot of competitive racing, but holy hell is PD always making it difficult and putting up completely pointless barriers for absolutely no reason. Every single GT game since GT5, PD has made some really bad design decisions that are confusing as to how they thought were a good idea.

I wanted to get into Sport mode too but PD lost me and hopefully I can get me refund. Keep in my I've been playing GT since the PS1 (I think GT1 was the first videogame I've ever played).

Maybe I'll pick up a used copy in a few months but PD will never be the same for me.
 
So many people going for refunds I can just post this again on Monday, only with minus signs.

I’m holding my stock.
Hoooooooooooooolllllllllllld!!!
 
I'd been working on a credits/grind piece for a little while. Today just gave me an excuse to get it out - although I had to rework it just a little!


Still, we're afraid of Sony and on the take, or something.
Thankyou for this incredible article Famine. It was a joy to read!

You've summed up all our feelings on this. Now I'll do my best to share it because the word needs to get out.

I really hope other big media pick up on this because I fear the credits were easy to get at launch to get good reviews and maximum word of mouth sales, now the bait n switch for credits have happened, it may get even worse in future if they don't reverse this decision.
 
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There's folk talking about returning the game I've seen that have been AVID supporters of GT since I joined this forum a decade ago. (They probably been supporters longer than that tbh) it says A WHOLE LOT when these folk are ALREADY considering returning the game 2 weeks in.

Smh. Never thought I'd see the day but I completely understand. PD gotta get it together fr.
The people here are older gamers, and so have far less tolerance for ******** game design decisions that are basically the developer giving themselves self inflicted wounds. We all grew up on the PS1/2 era where this sort of thing didn't exist. This discussion on other forums, usually revolves around people justifying game devs doing this stuff.
 
There's one huge difference between buying a 20M Cr car in GT Sport and GT7 - the former basically requires buying one to fully complete the game and get all the trophies, in the latter you buy one because you want it because there's no real necessity for it. Either you'll put in the hours or you don't want it enough after all.
That already weak logic flies completely out the window when you can just buy it with real money ($200 USD, which jesus christ, high rarity Trading Cards can go for less than that) and they nerfed the grinding methods, and the cars are in a rotating store that rotates in real time
 
Absolutely no surprise that people are still defending PD and their "economy" and drive for MTs after this move. Some will clearly defend literally anything.

You want a game to last for years do you? Well good, because that's what you've got.

We don't know the price for all cars yet, but it's currently at 277 million with 64 to go, many of which we know are going to be pricey. Let's be conservative and say the final total is 320 Million. But you're also going to want to upgrade those cars, take advantage of the excellent upgrade system. If we put that at a conservative 100K per car, that's another 42 million. So that's a total of 362 million credits to own all the cars and make good use of them, have fun with them.

We've just been told that the FASTEST method of earning credits has now been nerfed to 850,000 per hour. So if you do that, repeating the same race over and over to earn credits, it will take you....425 hours total to earn enough credits. 425 hours of the same single race. If you did that for four hours a day, every day (because you're some sort of masochist) that's three months of your life, gone, driving around the same race track so you can buy some other cars. No time to do anything else.

If you are less of a masochist and only do it an hour a day, that's over a year.

That's insane. So what if you don't want to do that, what if you decide to do a variety of races, like custom races. Well before this patch the best rate for those was around 200,000 per hour. 1,600 hours total. So, do custom races for four hours a day, every day, and you'll have enough credits in......400 days.

Most people are not going to play the same game every day, without missing one, for four hours though. So what if they manage a pretty reasonable 10 hours a week? That's still going to take over 3 years. 10 hours, every week, for three years. At which point you can FINALLY just have fun with the cars that came with the game.

Sport Mode and Online? Even slower.

"Just drive" they say. "Just go race, it's meant to last for a while". Yeah, no. This is absurd. And remember, that is me being conserative with the totals required. It may be even more. Not to mention the cost of any cars they add in updates.

The numbers boggle the mind.

Just think, if so many huge car racing nuts have no interest in doing this, so many big fans here don't, the biggest "celebrity" players don't, then who on earth will? The casual millions are going to get bored and lose interest even faster. So who is left playing the game? The PD defenders, who will do anything.

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And let's not even get into the fact PD have made two patches for this game and both were broken. The first one broke a load of stuff in the game, the second one is seemingly so poorly tested that it's broken the entire system for over 12 hours.
 
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You know what they could do? (And I've been thinking about this since GT Sport) If they increased drastically the Sport Mode prizes, they could solve 2 problems at once: bring more people to Sport Mode and stop the complaints about the grinding.
I definitely think this is the solution and myself and many others have mentioned it. I think most people would be onboard with this idea. The only "grind" we should have to do is to participate in Sport Mode. The whole point of Sport Mode is to keep the game relevant week after week for years so we would all continue making credits long-term without feeling like we're grinding. We're simply playing the game as it should be played.

I think for the first couple months the races should concentrate on cars that players likely already have, and in time should include rare and expensive cars after players have had time to earn the credits.
 
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