Gran Turismo HD Demo at E3

[civicgsir]

do you mean the patience we gave waiting for gt4, or the perfection they delivered?

ahhh, very well played sir.


I think i'd rather see 20+ cars on track rather than some just tell me there is going to be such. i'd rather see higher resolution images, rather than someone just telling me there is going to be higher resolution coming.

remember, this demo is NOT GT5, & it should be taken as just what it is. it is a look at what they are working towards.

i do believe they are holding their cards close on GT5. the competiton has gotten stronger & they have to protect their product. GT5 is extremely important to Sony & the PS3, & i dont think they are willing to risk losing anything to the competition just to satisfy a small group of impatient gamer fanboys at a show.

one thing that has to always be remembered, they can't satisfy everyone. even if they had a working high res demo of GT5, there still would be complaints & b!tching goin on. what they didnt do or should have had, etc....

 

[Badsight]

& back on page 6 we had :

so this "demo" is displaying onscreen up to 12 times the amount of info that GT4 on the PS2 shows

it is Hard-Drive optimised

& shows a stable 60 1080P-definition frames-per-second

not bad for a "demo" , would like to know what the spec of the PC was that they were running it on

what we need to see is a final build of the PS3 running this demo instead of their own PC

please remember : GT5 wont be out untill after November

6 months , if they show fully what they have in store it gives the competition 6 months to play catch up

some things hard to conceptualise - become so obvious when you see them in 3D operating

 

[RACECAR]

do you mean the patience we gave waiting for gt4, or the perfection they delivered?

b

p.s. yes, that is sarcasm

what I mean is the gamers should be patient for the complete product, therefore not make judgements whats shown in only show form while the product gets perfected. this is still experimentation, so don't expect results at the drop of a hat.

 

[TheMoose]

Some interesting info I found about GTHD.

From IGN.com on the PS3 games running on a hard drive.
"First up is Ken Kutaragi. The SCE chief told the magazine that while the PS3 demo units at E3 can be considered real hardware, the actual game demos at the show were not running off optical media. SCE had the games running off hard disk in order to download updates as the show progressed. This ability was apparently put to use with Gran Turismo HD, which, according to Kutaragi, saw updated versions on each day of the show."

 

[JohnBM01]

That is interesting, TheMoose. Are these updates more like extra additions to the game, certain programs or utilities to keep it working, or what?

 

[Tenacious D]

Man, that's some seriously late news, or maybe TheMoose just came across it. Either way, that's some fascinating info.

 

[TheMoose]

Man, that's some seriously late news, or maybe TheMoose just came across it. Either way, that's some fascinating info.

Actually the story came out Friday (5-26).
I found it on G4TV.com looking at info for the PS3.
Here's a link to the story.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/710/710286p1.html

 

[Infini]

http://www.gametrailers.com/gamepage.php?id=2656

The HD videos from E3 in free streaming format.

 

[GT-R4]

The evolution:
Gran Turismo 1
Gran Turismo 2
Gran Turismo 3
Gran Turismo Concept / Demo a little better(graphic's) then GT3
Gran Turismo 4: Prologue / Demo to show GT4
Gran Turismo 4
Gran Turismo HD / little demo to show GT5
Gran Turismo 5 / without HD, all the games to PS3, are High definition
?

 

[the Interceptor]

Gran Turismo HD / little demo to show GT5

That's not quite right, GTHD is entirely based on GT4 and has nothing in common with GT5.

Regards
the Interceptor

 

[GT-R4]

Yes, based on GT4.
when you see, the new GT, maybe we say that, is entirely based on GT4.
First we must see the game(GT5), to say: has nothing in common with GT5.
Do you think, that they modify the GT4 (essence), to make the new GT?
wait to see!!
?/?

 

[87chevy]

OMG I had no idea I was soooo behind the times. I just found out about this last night will googling for GT5 stuff.

I'm amazed! I watched the videos from E3 and my mouth just hung open. MOTORCYCLES!!! that will be soooo awesome, but if they dont have Ducati I'll be very heart broken, as i'm going to be buying a Duc in the next couple weeks.

And did you see how many cars were on the track at once!??! In one shot I counted 14 JGTC cars! and what's with the bikes and cars on the same track??

too bad I can't afford a HD TV lol

 

[the Interceptor]

when you see, the new GT, maybe we say that, is entirely based on GT4.

I really doubt that, cause GT5 runs on a new platform, the PS3. Porting data from GT4 would be more work than programming it from the start I guess.

First we must see the game(GT5), to say: has nothing in common with GT5. Do you think, that they modify the GT4 (essence), to make the new GT?

You are correct, we actually have to wait and see about GT5. But like I said, I see no reason why they would take anything from GT4 to GT5, as they have to build the game from ground up anyway. It will still be about cars and tracks though.

Regards
the Interceptor

 

[Dave A]

OMG I had no idea I was soooo behind the times. I just found out about this last night will googling for GT5 stuff.

I'm amazed! I watched the videos from E3 and my mouth just hung open. MOTORCYCLES!!! that will be soooo awesome, but if they dont have Ducati I'll be very heart broken, as i'm going to be buying a Duc in the next couple weeks.

And did you see how many cars were on the track at once!??! In one shot I counted 14 JGTC cars! and what's with the bikes and cars on the same track??

too bad I can't afford a HD TV lol

That wasn't GT5, that was GT:HD, a demo and nothing more simply to showcase something at E3, motorbikes will almost certainly not be in GT5, way to go to kill off a franchise as soon as it starts to get known (I'm talking about Tourist trophy).

 

[87chevy]

That wasn't GT5, that was GT:HD, a demo and nothing more simply to showcase something at E3, motorbikes will almost certainly not be in GT5, way to go to kill off a franchise as soon as it starts to get known (I'm talking about Tourist trophy).

I know it's not GT5, I'm talking about HD.

 

[Dave A]

Well GT:HD isn't a game, it's a technical demonstration and thats it, so no it won't have Ducatti. Tourist Trophy 2 might, but we'll have to wait and see.

 

[87chevy]

Well GT:HD isn't a game, it's a technical demonstration and thats it, so no it won't have Ducatti. Tourist Trophy 2 might, but we'll have to wait and see.

Ah ok, I was under the impression they were going to release HD. And who makes a bike game without Ducati?????

[edit]scratch above statement in red, I just got into the TT forum and saw that the game does indeed list Ducati as a manufacturer. The wording of your statement implied it didn't.[/edit]

 

[JohnBM01]

It's like I've stated before. The bikes from Tourist Trophy and all the designated "Special Cars" were featured just as a tech demo. Do you know the reason why there are no more four bikes? Tourist Trophy uses GT4 technology, and there are limits to its graphics engine. Try to put on as many bikes as a MotoGP World Championship grid, and the game will be slower than a snail. At least this GTHD deal shows promise that we may actually be able to race 12 Caterhams in a one-make race deal. Maybe more to a track.

And the off topic comment on Ducati, you CAN make bike games without Ducati. Don't be like the people who b:censored: and moan that there's no Ferrari, Porsche, or Lamborghini. At least PD shown they can get the big name company licenses. And it isn't like PD can do it, but refuse to. So let's can this notion. Okay, player?

By the way, nice avatar, 87chevy. 👍

 

[vectradriver]

to be honest, those 'high-def' screenshots don't look any better than super fine photo-mode shots.

 

[McLaren]

to be honest, those 'high-def' screenshots don't look any better than super fine photo-mode shots.

That's kinda what they are. But like some said, you really have to see it in person.

 

[87chevy]

It's like I've stated before. The bikes from Tourist Trophy and all the designated "Special Cars" were featured just as a tech demo. Do you know the reason why there are no more four bikes? Tourist Trophy uses GT4 technology, and there are limits to its graphics engine. Try to put on as many bikes as a MotoGP World Championship grid, and the game will be slower than a snail. At least this GTHD deal shows promise that we may actually be able to race 12 Caterhams in a one-make race deal. Maybe more to a track.

Yeah, I understand that, same reason why 'verts have their tops up when racing. Having those moto riders moving all over the bike takes a big toll on GT4's engine I'm sure.

And the off topic comment on Ducati, you CAN make bike games without Ducati. Don't be like the people who b:censored: and moan that there's no Ferrari, Porsche, or Lamborghini. At least PD shown they can get the big name company licenses. And it isn't like PD can do it, but refuse to. So let's can this notion. Okay, player?

I dont think comparing Ferrari to Ducati is valid. And I never was one to b:censored: about Ferrari not being in the GT series anyways, I've never really been a fan. I would expect Ducati to be in any Serious Moto GP type game, however, I was really surprised when I saw Buell! Now that is going above and beyond!

By the way, nice avatar, 87chevy. 👍

Thanks, now if I could only get it bigger....

 

[the Interceptor]

to be honest, those 'high-def' screenshots don't look any better than super fine photo-mode shots.

That's true, but now imagine playing the game with 60 fullscreens a second like that. That's what we've seen with GT:HD.

 

[vectradriver]

Well I'm happy with my 720p X360 for the next gen. Guess I'll miss out on GT5. Forza is the better handling game for a start and I like the customisation of it. Photomode is GT's only saving grace.

 

[civicgsir]

Well I'm happy with my 720p X360 for the next gen. Guess I'll miss out on GT5. Forza is the better handling game for a start and I like the customisation of it. Photomode is GT's only saving grace.

without GT5 or the PS3 being out yet, their isnt anything for the 360 & Forza to be compared to. other than a ton of speculation & guess work.

 

[Dave A]

And you know Forza is a better handling game than GT5, how? In all honesty, since I own both Forza and GT4 I would say Forza has certain elemnts right, and GT4 has others, I most certainly would not say Forza handles more eralistically than GT4, nor would I say it the other way round, as to which handles "better", that's a matter of opinion, whichever you like the most can be defined as better be it realistic or not.

 

[Wolfe]

Forza is already worse than GT4...the only thing GT5 would have to do to be better is match GT4 in realism.

I'll take GT4's "understeer, understeer, understeer, understeer, overst- spin!!" over Forza's "hey look at me I'm driving around with soggy milk cartons for tires! My car has no idea what's going on!".......any day of the week.

 

[87chevy]

Forza is already worse than GT4...the only thing GT5 would have to do to be better is match GT4 in realism.

I'll take GT4's "understeer, understeer, understeer, understeer, overst- spin!!" over Forza's "hey look at me I'm driving around with soggy milk cartons for tires! My car has no idea what's going on!".......any day of the week.

 

[McLaren]

And you know Forza is a better handling game than GT5, how? In all honesty, since I own both Forza and GT4 I would say Forza has certain elemnts right, and GT4 has others, I most certainly would not say Forza handles more eralistically than GT4, nor would I say it the other way round, as to which handles "better", that's a matter of opinion, whichever you like the most can be defined as better be it realistic or not.

I consider them equal as they each have their own strengths and weaknesses. And Team10 says they're striving for absolute realism. Unforunately, I highly doubt GT5 or Forza 2 will be much more realistic than their previous titles. They may exceed a little more realism which is good, but I doubt it'll still be anything worthy of being called a true simulator.

 

[Mr Deap]

Forza is already worse than GT4...the only thing GT5 would have to do to be better is match GT4 in realism.

I'll take GT4's "understeer, understeer, understeer, understeer, overst- spin!!" over Forza's "hey look at me I'm driving around with soggy milk cartons for tires! My car has no idea what's going on!".......any day of the week.

 

[morganhead]

OFFICIAL JAPANESE GTHD WEBSITE (click little boxes upper left for screens)

UPDATE: GTHD is a prototype! More screens and info HERE (check bottom of blog for high res pics) courtesy of ALPHA

UPDATE: GTHD video and other PS3 feeds via Gamespot courtesy of Solid Lifters' sig.


Hello !

Not sure if you guys have heard the news yet, but the Sony PS3 conference has revealed some new juicy details about PS3 and next GT title: Gran Turismo HD!




courtesy of joystiq.com:

/Discuss.
(back to studying for finals)

how many cars did you see on the track at one time? is it just a pipe dream or can they really get 12 or more on screen?