Gran Turismo Sport Closed Beta Coming March 17: First the US, Then EU Region

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Tokyo!

I mentioned this before. Not PD is to blame. We urgently need a mentality change! We need to learn to accept that on this kind of tracks quali is much more important. And **** happens. Did you guys see the latest imsa long beach? Did the drivers jump out shouting to boycot the track??

My approach: learn the track real good, dont drive on the absolute limit. If you are in bad luck because another causes you harm or forces you in the wall or ... it happens in real racing as well. So it adds to the fun!! Yes it adds if you get your mentality right.

Boycot pd for making this track? Oh boy...

There should be a third rating system next to DR and SR. TR! Only guys (or girls) that dont start crying if a track gets more technical will be racing together...
 
Tokyo!

I mentioned this before. Not PD is to blame. We urgently need a mentality change! We need to learn to accept that on this kind of tracks quali is much more important. And **** happens. Did you guys see the latest imsa long beach? Did the drivers jump out shouting to boycot the track??

My approach: learn the track real good, dont drive on the absolute limit. If you are in bad luck because another causes you harm or forces you in the wall or ... it happens in real racing as well. So it adds to the fun!! Yes it adds if you get your mentality right.

Boycot pd for making this track? Oh boy...

There should be a third rating system next to DR and SR. TR! Only guys (or girls) that dont start crying if a track gets more technical will be racing together...
Is this game now have every single person in a professional league? No. Are there tracks anywhere near as ridiculous as this? Nooooo. Qualifying being the most important thing for this track so forget about wheel to wheel racing. I'm but looking forward to that. I'll skip racing on this track. I'll still use it, but I'll avoid it as much as possible.

And chill out, be a bit mature and don't jump up and down calling foul for me saying that people should avoid driving this track if they don't want PD to continue making these kinds of tracks; Monaco is one thing since it's a legitimate FIA sanctioned LOCATION. I'm not crying about it. I'm just annoyed that PD has made another impractical track. Cape Ring and its super jump. Matterhorn and its steep straights. Laguna Seca is fine. So don't think I'm only for flat tracks. And I like Eiger, but the jump at the start isn't practical in anything other than in a rally event.

You have your opinion. DON'T attack my opinion. You can like whatever you want.
 
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Can you describe what is unimpressive about demonstration replays? Keep in mind what the definition of a demonstration is :P

Well it all feels very bland and hollow. I watched most replays on my phone before and there it was impressive but on the big screen the cars look good but the rest can look rough and pixelated. The ligthening is superb, the angels can be great but it is missing an imported factor: bringing the race actually to life. I don't know if I explain well but I can't happen to feel I see GT1 replays with a PS4 graphic sauce. Maybe I am just burned out on it?!?!

Happy I got the invite and I certainly try it this saturday. Maybe there will be some positive surprises but I don't hold my breath.
 
Well it all feels very bland and hollow. I watched most replays on my phone before and there it was impressive but on the big screen the cars look good but the rest can look rough and pixelated. The ligthening is superb, the angels can be great but it is missing an imported factor: bringing the race actually to life. I don't know if I explain well but I can't happen to feel I see GT1 replays with a PS4 graphic sauce. Maybe I am just burned out on it?!?!

Happy I got the invite and I certainly try it this saturday. Maybe there will be some positive surprises but I don't hold my breath.
No doubt the replays are fun to watch. With competent drivers and good racing, this track could be great to watch races at in spectator mode. Hot lapping and then watching those replays are like watching week-made car commercials.

My gripe with it is that it's a shortened version of SSR 11. Better, but not practical in the slightest for a real world race (considering PD made this into a greater competitive racing game). The Azerbaijan GP makes more sense than this. And that street track is something else. It looks cool, but very strange, just like this Tokyo track.
 
I got EU beta yesterday and now i'm downloading it. Have a question, is it available to play it before saturday? to do any hot laps? or is it locked till saturday?
Thank you
 
I don't want to troll, or anything, dropped quotes inside spoiler, leaving those as is..

Only one thing comes to my mind on every "bad ceash video" from TE, haven't seen a single crash video where driver truly tries to drive well, throttle floored even there's car sideways on front, rare cases maybe lifting a bit, but never fully and braking, even crash is already happened , "own car" involved and there's route to go around it's not used with caution, just flooring throttle and ramming thru other cars.
That kind of activity needs to lose SR points, people are just too eager to win, making them act really unsportsmanship way.
Why people on B and C class aren't using a) radar, b) bumper/cockpit camera to have mirrors? Are they really so good at they don't need to see around?


TE seems to be hard track, and people are pushing it over their skills and blaming track instead their own actions on there.
Nordschleife Mutkurve is good reference to this, alone you can drive it really fast, on queue you have to take it way slower, two cars side by side you're going really slow compared to alone and queue driving, overtaking on Mutkurve really dangerous, really easy to have accident if speed isn't perfectly matched and already going way slower than alone going speed.
TE has many turns similar to Mutkurve, people are just pushing too hard there, over their skills, maybe people learn how much you have to sacrifice your speed when going side by side, or they just continue blaming game their own not so smart acts.


Just avoid the situations that can create a big pile up. Don't be stupid and run three cars wide if there isn't enough space. Don't go full throttle and hope for the best when you see someone spinning out in front of you. Use your brakes and stay safe, even if that means losing a position or two.

That is sportsmanship.

However, the problem here is that a lot of people that race online don't know what sportsmanship is... or how to not be stupid... or how to use a brake pedal. I can be as careful as possible but that won't prevent me from being run into a wall while trying to pass because someone doesn't want to let me by when I have a run. I can't prevent being run over from behind while trying to slow down for a wreck because there's people that just go full on Days Of Thunder into the carnage. And when you have a track as skinny as Tokyo, the stupid people will be stupid, and it will have a greater effect because of the physical properties of the racetrack.

The stupid people will be involved in more incidents and will get a worse SR score, it will sort itself out with time.

What if, you know, you actually want to do what everyone wants to do: w

So, if I don't want my SR to drop, I should lose all my races. Gotcha.

If you don't want your SR to drop you should realise that winning isn't what sportsmanship is primarily about.
 
Well it all feels very bland and hollow. I watched most replays on my phone before and there it was impressive but on the big screen the cars look good but the rest can look rough and pixelated. The ligthening is superb, the angels can be great but it is missing an imported factor: bringing the race actually to life. I don't know if I explain well but I can't happen to feel I see GT1 replays with a PS4 graphic sauce. Maybe I am just burned out on it?!?!

Happy I got the invite and I certainly try it this saturday. Maybe there will be some positive surprises but I don't hold my breath.
I'm on-board with you doblo, graphically and technically I've not quite been blown away like I might have expected.

Perhaps due to my own blown up expectations but definitely impacted by how good titles like Horizon 3, Driveclub and Forza Motorsport 6 have looked before GTS. I do know 2 of those titles only run at 30fps, however.
 
@Brend Well maybe it is that. From Gran Turismo I always had the expectation to blow all others out of the water but it doesn't happen anymore. Outside of PD's lightening engine there isn't actually a whole lot to get excited about :(
 
I'm not sure if there'll be an answer on this before the weekend, but now that EU players have access, will races be region-locked or will EU players be able to race against US players?

Also, is it possible to join a Friend if they're racing, or is it all Matchmaking-based right now?
 
I'm not sure if there'll be an answer on this before the weekend, but now that EU players have access, will races be region-locked or will EU players be able to race against US players?

Also, is it possible to join a Friend if they're racing, or is it all Matchmaking-based right now?

only matchmaking
 
Will races be region-locked or will EU players be able to race against US players?
I've been in lobbies that contained people from Canada to Brazil (and Japanese devs). I'm guessing it won't be region locked. Can also confirm that a 230ms ping didn't bar me from being able to join a server.
 
Love them or hate them, PRC got a hands on with the beta:

https://pretendracecars.net/2017/04/12/an-evening-with-the-beta-of-gran-turismo-sport/

Basically he says the road cars are incredible and so is the eye candy, but the race cars drive like crap and the design choices are bad for online racing, creating a lot of chaos.

Pretend Race Cars
The worst site you could possibly visit for Sim Racing news.

I'm getting mixed signals here
 
Why even bring up trolling to the discussion? The only troll post I've seen here recently is the one about the "joke" that supposedly went over my head. A post which you liked and a "joke" which nobody has explained yet. But maybe you can do me that favour since you apparently understood it?

I've seen plenty of videos and I have a pretty good understanding of the track. I've been racing a lot on other city tracks in GT5 and GT6 and I know what it demands from you.

Furthermore, racing principles are universal. When you have very little space you need to be cautious. You can't go side by side with another car if the track is not wide enough. If you attempt that it's a driver error.

If you see a car ahead of you spinning out of control and you don't attempt to slow down to make a safe pass, it's a driver error.

The first rule when driving in a pack of cars is to make sure you make it through the corner. Only when you know that you can do that can you start fighting for positions.

In the lower SR tiers this will be a mess. But as soon as you advance in SR rating you will race against other sportsmen and the situation will improve. There will still be occasional pile ups but that's the nature of racing.
A poorly designed race track is a poorly designed race track. That's my point, and while you have seen videos, a lack of personal experience leaves you in a poor position for providing advice.

This notion of "just race clean, it will sort itself out" is ludicrous.

I also have raced with others on all kinds of tracks, including city, on GT4, GT5 and GT6. Yes, GT4, I raced in multiple LAN settings on that game.

When people I respect highly who are respectful of others cannot manage a clean result no matter what approach they try and have sworn the track off, irrespective of their current safety rating, I'm not sure there's much hope for it.

That you are staunchly arguing "just race clean, and it will sort itself out" from the forum without having turned a single wheel here is absurd.

And it amounts to stirring up crap in the forums, which last time I looked, was a form of trolling.
 
I don't want to troll, or anything, dropped quotes inside spoiler, leaving those as is..

Only one thing comes to my mind on every "bad ceash video" from TE, haven't seen a single crash video where driver truly tries to drive well, throttle floored even there's car sideways on front, rare cases maybe lifting a bit, but never fully and braking, even crash is already happened , "own car" involved and there's route to go around it's not used with caution, just flooring throttle and ramming thru other cars.
That kind of activity needs to lose SR points, people are just too eager to win, making them act really unsportsmanship way.
Why people on B and C class aren't using a) radar, b) bumper/cockpit camera to have mirrors? Are they really so good at they don't need to see around?


TE seems to be hard track, and people are pushing it over their skills and blaming track instead their own actions on there.
Nordschleife Mutkurve is good reference to this, alone you can drive it really fast, on queue you have to take it way slower, two cars side by side you're going really slow compared to alone and queue driving, overtaking on Mutkurve really dangerous, really easy to have accident if speed isn't perfectly matched and already going way slower than alone going speed.
TE has many turns similar to Mutkurve, people are just pushing too hard there, over their skills, maybe people learn how much you have to sacrifice your speed when going side by side, or they just continue blaming game their own not so smart acts.


Spot On bro!!! Honestly It doesn't matter what track it is yesterday I lost 4 SR points at the Ring last night. It's not the track it the people racing on the track, people have no respect period. I actually had to race TE last night to try to get more SR points I ended up getting three back I was in the back pack but everyone was clean. If people watched more racing and learned some racing do's and don't it would be a different story. People want to win so bad they just don't care, PD needs to try to figure out how to really punish the bad drivers.
 
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I don't want to troll, or anything, dropped quotes inside spoiler, leaving those as is..

Only one thing comes to my mind on every "bad ceash video" from TE, haven't seen a single crash video where driver truly tries to drive well, throttle floored even there's car sideways on front, rare cases maybe lifting a bit, but never fully and braking, even crash is already happened , "own car" involved and there's route to go around it's not used with caution, just flooring throttle and ramming thru other cars.
That kind of activity needs to lose SR points, people are just too eager to win, making them act really unsportsmanship way.
Why people on B and C class aren't using a) radar, b) bumper/cockpit camera to have mirrors? Are they really so good at they don't need to see around?


TE seems to be hard track, and people are pushing it over their skills and blaming track instead their own actions on there.
Nordschleife Mutkurve is good reference to this, alone you can drive it really fast, on queue you have to take it way slower, two cars side by side you're going really slow compared to alone and queue driving, overtaking on Mutkurve really dangerous, really easy to have accident if speed isn't perfectly matched and already going way slower than alone going speed.
TE has many turns similar to Mutkurve, people are just pushing too hard there, over their skills, maybe people learn how much you have to sacrifice your speed when going side by side, or they just continue blaming game their own not so smart acts.


Did you get a beta invite yesterday?

If so, get back to us on Saturday.

If not, stop trying to solve it from your keyboard.
 
So did anyone notice an improvement in racing closely with the new slipstream effect for the update? They said they were possibly going to tone down the downforce reduction.
Things were a lot better on the 'ring with N300 cars. There was still a 150mph traffic jam flying down dottinger hohe but you didn't see ludicrous slingshot speeds at all.
 
Tokyo!

I mentioned this before. Not PD is to blame. We urgently need a mentality change! We need to learn to accept that on this kind of tracks quali is much more important. And **** happens. Did you guys see the latest imsa long beach? Did the drivers jump out shouting to boycot the track??

My approach: learn the track real good, dont drive on the absolute limit. If you are in bad luck because another causes you harm or forces you in the wall or ... it happens in real racing as well. So it adds to the fun!! Yes it adds if you get your mentality right.

Boycot pd for making this track? Oh boy...

There should be a third rating system next to DR and SR. TR! Only guys (or girls) that dont start crying if a track gets more technical will be racing together...

Good to see that this mentality of PD can do no wrong and it's everyone else's fault is as strong as ever. Why is it so hard to accept that even PD will put out a dud every once in a while? As long as attitudes like this persist, why should they bother trying to improve their track design?
 
lol, I had a 1st and a pair of 2nds and felt like I was dodging the spinning cars more than racing....just crazy.
I have to say, watching you and twolaver juke around, dodging the road hazards was pretty entertaining.

It's really less race car driving, more bullet hell type game at that point.

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Good to see that this mentality of PD can do no wrong and it's everyone else's fault is as strong as ever. Why is it so hard to accept that even PD will put out a dud every once in a while? As long as attitudes like this persist, why should they bother trying to improve their track design?
Ease up turbo. :sly:

It's one person's view on one of many dedicated forums.
Next you'll complain that all those well thought out constructive criticisms aren't being listened too. :P
 
Man as of now with this limited amount of players the Sport Mode is nothing more than a glorified public lobby.

Not going to race ever again on Tokyo and Oval - there's no point. Was it so hard to putt 3 real race tracks in the BETA ?

Oval not being rolling start is classic PD too.

In fact the whole of yesterday I had ZERO clean races.

There needs to be a time penalty for ramming someone in the back. As of now this is a very popular way of gaining a position on the Ring.

Right now putting someone in the sand results in a partial SR drop that you can recover simply by driving cleanly for the rest of the race.

And no starting 1st and finishing 1st is not racing. Or racing with your 2 buddies while leaving the rest of the group in the dust.

That's called ehem a "Private Lobby" which will most likely be the only way to have clean races.

Also if you brake to late and go wide be sure to get that sweet time penalty cos that's how racing works. :lol:

"Vettel goes wide and Hamilton gains a position"

Black flag for Vettel

I mean sure - you cut the corner you get penalty but you also get it if you go in the sand and lose huge amount of time.

Bizarre.

Let's hope they get things right for the full release.
 
Oval not being rolling start is classic PD too.
This was something that was annoying too in my Sport mode experiences. The start of every race at Northern Isle had at least two cars spin out and sit there for a lap or two just trying to get going. They would slide down the banked track and end up spinning in cirlces while the leaders came around once or twice.
 
Man as of now with this limited amount of players the Sport Mode is nothing more than a glorified public lobby.

Not going to race ever again on Tokyo and Oval - there's no point. Was it so hard to putt 3 real race tracks in the BETA ?

Oval not being rolling start is classic PD too.

In fact the whole of yesterday I had ZERO clean races.

There needs to be a time penalty for ramming someone in the back. As of now this is a very popular way of gaining a position on the Ring.

Right now putting someone in the sand results in a partial SR drop that you can recover simply by driving cleanly for the rest of the race.

And no starting 1st and finishing 1st is not racing. Or racing with your 2 buddies while leaving the rest of the group in the dust.

That's called ehem a "Private Lobby" which will most likely be the only way to have clean races.

Also if you brake to late and go wide be sure to get that sweet time penalty cos that's how racing works. :lol:

"Vettel goes wide and Hamilton gains a position"

Black flag for Vettel

I mean sure - you cut the corner you get penalty but you also get it if you go in the sand and lose huge amount of time.

Bizarre.

Let's hope they get things right for the full release.
It also doesn't help this group of tracks have been the same for days... They honestly need to change it up every other day if not every day. Hopefully the new set of tracks will be featured when Phase 2 begins.
 

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