Gran Turismo Sport Closed Beta Coming March 17: First the US, Then EU Region

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:lol: Bro I lost a lot of SR yesterday at the ring so I was desperate and had to enter TE. My qualifying time is bad since I haven't really been focusing on the track so I started 12th alot of the times. Ended up taking 7th once 6th once and last because it was a spin out in the tunnel.

ah we live and learn, 3/4 downloaded now but will have to wait until saturday. LOL im going to be so rusty when i start, typical me!
Im more or less prepared, with my Samsung UHD HDR TV and PS4 Pro, just need to buy a G29 wheel ( btw how does this multi quote thing work? its never clicked with me)
 
Cars are going side by side way too fast through many of the corners, as is evident due to the amount of contact with walls and with other cars. No matter how offensive you may find it that is driver error. And that is from a position of experience, not provocation.

Failure to slow down when approaching a slower car is also driver error. Just because you didn't have the incident doesn't mean that you should have the right to a free pass at ludicrous speed.

I don't lack evidence to support my position, there are plenty of videos around.
Right, then.

As I've said to others, I anxiously await your opinion once you've had a chance to experience this for yourself.

Please report back on how effective your approach is, as I'm sure you know best and it will go fully according to plan. 👍
 
And I say that it isn't poorly designed.

Of course you don't. What does qualify as a poorly-designed circuit, then?

The difference with Tokyo is that Polyphony was not tied to replicating a real-world circuit, and could have picked anywhere to draw inspiration from. Clubman & SSR5 were similar city circuits, but they both were wider, and featured a greater variety of turns (both in terms of layout and — crucially — speed).

A narrow track on its own isn't bad: Citta di Aria served its purpose in GT4, as a narrow one-on-one event. A high-speed track on its own isn't bad either. Combining them, with absolutely no run-off area, in a game where the primary focus is multiplayer, is asking for trouble. There's no room for error, and very little room for even avoiding others' errors.

Many of us have been driving Tokyo for weeks at this point. There are plenty of quick, courteous drivers that simply ignore races when Tokyo comes up, because it's far more likely to negatively impact SR than positively (especially as it becomes harder to progress in SR as you get higher).

After experiencing the track myself, I've changed my mind on its general layout for hotlapping — it's still an utter bore visually, but there is certainly a rhythm one needs to be quick there, and there's a level of satisfaction when you succeed. But it's in no way encouraging close, clean racing in 18-car races.

Failure to slow down when approaching a slower car is also driver error. Just because you didn't have the incident doesn't mean that you should have the right to a free pass at ludicrous speed.

Nobody has suggested a "free pass". If there's a pile-up — and you even have time to slow down, given it's a completely high-speed-only circuit — there's more likely to be no way past. Coming to a full stop and letting the cars in front get back into form is the only option here. Whether that's even successful or not (you better hope the other cars behind you do the same)... that's your concept of ideal racing?

But go ahead, keep telling people that it's their faults when any accidents happen on the track you've yet to race on.

better to let my opponent knock each other off track and see how things go

There is no "off track", it's just "in your way".
 
EDK
This seems to be your tact with me now, you've also told me that the reason I prefer particular aspects of tuning is due to my somehow inferior driving style.

So since you believe I am the problem and there could not possibly be another answer, I guess I'll provide you with my resume.

You're taking things personally, things what are ment to everyone, including me.
About your style of driving it way to do setup, I didn't make any assumptions how you drive, only how some style of setup works, you're reading something between lines and from there finding stuff what doesn't exist.
But if you want opinion directly to your setup style I have to first "copy" words used by few top guns on other sims, there's always fast drivers driving with awful setups and doing top of line times, then to my own, I like my cars to behave close to real and turn from front and rear following front trail, not forklift where rear does turning and front only tries to stabilize it. But like said before, good setup for every driver can vary a lot.

EDK
Based on my experience, I believe I have a reasonably good idea of how to race cleanly. I also have an extensive list of others I have raced with, whom I respect and I know race cleanly first, quickly second. And again, I have yet to hear any of them say that the problem with improving or maintaining your SR at Tokyo lies with the driver and their approach.

If you want to speak about you.. Difference between me and you just from above, I respect all drivers on track, even they accidentally or purposely hit me, not only guys whom I respect due previous races. Guys who often are involved or making accidents are getting extra respect from me, I'm giving them even more space and trying to avoid their typical mistake/crash places.
Racing TE just needs extra pair of nerves to stay calm..

EDK
It's sort of like saying, "You can win in Vegas, every time. You just need to take this approach and it will work".

When I'm behind wheel (irl+sim) I'm minimising every aspect what might need luck involved, so that's now flying bit over my head as example.

EDK
I anxiously await your feedback when you have the opportunity to experience the joy of Tokyo for yourself.

Until then, please stop telling me that my problem is me.

Maybe on start of next week I can give "first hand information" from there.
 
You're taking things personally, things what are ment to everyone, including me.
About your style of driving it way to do setup, I didn't make any assumptions how you drive, only how some style of setup works, you're reading something between lines and from there finding stuff what doesn't exist.
But if you want opinion directly to your setup style I have to first "copy" words used by few top guns on other sims, there's always fast drivers driving with awful setups and doing top of line times, then to my own, I like my cars to behave close to real and turn from front and rear following front trail, not forklift where rear does turning and front only tries to stabilize it. But like said before, good setup for every driver can vary a lot.
That's to a great extent a driving style driven approach, so for you to criticize the way others set up their cars because it does not suit your style is not really an accommodating approach. It's more exclusionary or elitist.


If you want to speak about you.. Difference between me and you just from above, I respect all drivers on track, even they accidentally or purposely hit me, not only guys whom I respect due previous races. Guys who often are involved or making accidents are getting extra respect from me, I'm giving them even more space and trying to avoid their typical mistake/crash places.
But who says I don't? Did I say I lack respect for drivers who hit me, that I ram them intentionally? There's not a place to avoid them in this scenario. There are others where plenty of space it available, this just is not it.

When I'm behind wheel (irl+sim) I'm minimising every aspect what might need luck involved, so that's now flying bit over my head as example.
There's a book approach to games of luck as well. But your relative chances of success are much different from other situations. What I am saying is even if you play "by the book" here, you will have a much lower success rate than in other places. That's the reason for my gambling example.

Maybe on start of next week I can give "first hand information" from there.
Please do, I can't wait to hear your thoughts. 👍
 
@WhoosierGirl, you don't run in Nurburgring?

No, I did some laps there when it was first available to me but, it completely messed me up going back to Assetto Corsa's version. The carousel and the first few sections have a completely different feel between the two. For now I'm going to just do the tracks that are exclusive to GT.
 
Cars are going side by side way too fast through many of the corners, as is evident due to the amount of contact with walls and with other cars. No matter how offensive you may find it that is driver error. And that is from a position of experience, not provocation.

Failure to slow down when approaching a slower car is also driver error. Just because you didn't have the incident doesn't mean that you should have the right to a free pass at ludicrous speed.

I don't lack evidence to support my position, there are plenty of videos around.

It sounds like your idea of racing is "follow the leader" because thats how TE has to be raced to stay clean.

Since you have watched 100"s of idiots driving bad on YT you must be able to find video's of people driving TE the right way then, or are you the only one that has the magic touch?
 
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I have all GT's since GT1
I bought PS3 and PS4 only for GT (i dont play other games in Playstation)

No Beta for me.....

Thank you PD....

I'm gonna sell my PS4 and never buy it again....
 
No, I did some laps there when it was first available to me but, it completely messed me up going back to Assetto Corsa's version. The carousel and the first few sections have a completely different feel between the two. For now I'm going to just do the tracks that are exclusive to GT.
Alright, I thought that you didn't like the track.
 
EDK
That's to a great extent a driving style driven approach, so for you to criticize the way others set up their cars because it does not suit your style is not really an accommodating approach. It's more exclusionary or elitist.

..every driver has his opinion what kind of setup suits him best.
There's no mention at my style is better than others, only thing what I might say is my own personal approach to setup is trying to set car in a way what leaves behaviour close to realistic way as I would like it in real-life, I don't mind if others are doing their cars other way, I have criticised only those cases where car has really "unrealistic" setup and driver is complaining "unrealistic" behavior of car, those cases I might say something about those setups, like don't expect car to behave realistic if it's not dialed in realistic.
I can adapt forklift driving style and lap fast times with it, but I don't enjoy driving like that, personally I know at many TT style setup is capable to do faster lap times than my traditional way setups, but mistake percentage on TT setup is so much higher at I won't even consider to take them on online races.

EDK
But who says I don't? Did I say I lack respect for drivers who hit me, that I ram them intentionally? There's not a place to avoid them in this scenario. There are others where plenty of space it available, this just is not it.

Our local police words: Too high speed for current situation, penalty fee for you.. :lol:

EDK
There's a book approach to games of luck as well. But your relative chances of success are much different from other situations. What I am saying is even if you play "

If all are driving "by the book" then there's no problem, if someone is taking privilege to go under fence then others has to bend bit more to keep table clean.

EDK
Please do, I can't wait to hear your thoughts. 👍

Until then..
 
You still have 2 days until the 15th. :)

Oh and check your spam folder. My mail was laying there...

And they'll probably be adding people through the weeks til Asia/JP or open beta. Which should be in a couple of weeks.

Many of us have been driving Tokyo for weeks at this point. There are plenty of quick, courteous drivers that simply ignore races when Tokyo comes up, because it's far more likely to negatively impact SR than positively (especially as it becomes harder to progress in SR as you get higher).

At which point it becomes slower? I'm at 47 right now and the total still is calculated from something like lap/length + 1/2 points.
 
MXH
So, I'm assuming that the beta/game is completely useless until the first Daily Event starts?
No my friend I would you the free time to get filmilar with the physics, cars, and track so you can lay down a good qualifying time.
 
No my friend I would you the free time to get filmilar with the physics, cars, and track so you can lay down a good qualifying time.

I think we'd all love to do that but unfortunately since they locked Arcade we can't do that in the EU. There are also no online races available yet so we can't run time trials either. Hopefully the races will be put online tomorrow so we can qualify for them. We need at least some time to prepare for those first few races.
 
I think we'd all love to do that but unfortunately since they locked Arcade we can't do that in the EU. There are also no online races available yet so we can't run time trials either. Hopefully the races will be put online tomorrow so we can qualify for them. We need at least some time to prepare for those first few races.
Likely that you will see the qualifying for your races pop up tomorrow during the initial race event time for Saturday.

We get 24 hours or so to qualify for our next races, hopefully they give you the same.
 
I think we'd all love to do that but unfortunately since they locked Arcade we can't do that in the EU. There are also no online races available yet so we can't run time trials either. Hopefully the races will be put online tomorrow so we can qualify for them. We need at least some time to prepare for those first few races.
Damn man my bad, I still don't agree with them locking arcade mode.
 

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