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Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion
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cutmeamango
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The dim-witted comment was about the increasing "panic" (you can go back and look at the posts) over having to drive a car the equivalent mileage to upgrade it.
It's unintentional FUD.
It could be a bad thing if those mileage points are obtained by sacrificing little puppies. But I won't run anxiously around that if I'm not sure if it's correct or not.
Yes, I personally don't like the idea of "level-ups", either do upgrades that relate to real counterparts as before or don't.
But that may be one artifice they found interesting to increase "ownership" of a car.
What I meant and explained thrice is that you can't tell a team will lose all games because they lost the first one. It's insufficient.
That's why "Monthly tracks!" is not a track record to draw reasonable assumptions.
So I can't answer "if it's a good or bad track record", because it's not an employable one.
And then I agree with you, if we are being charitable about it, GT's "track record" on DLC (or as I said, content updates since we didn't pay for most of it) is alright for cars. Which is what the GTS image says: Cars received by DLC.
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We are talking about PD's track record of making promises and not delivering. Hence @Scaff skepticism, and hence my original question about what was delivered against what was said. I wasn't asking what you thought of their track record, I asked if they had delivered. If they didn't deliver, than it makes sense why people say think the way they do.
It's not like people are coming in blindly with no reason behind what they're saying. They aren't baseless assumptions, as this is how PD portrayed themselves in the past. There is reason for the skepticism. It's fine that you don't have the same skepticism, but I find it hard that you'd think that its invalid to think so given the past.
That bad track record expands farther than just DLC.
EDIT: Actually, there already is a bad track record for the game. The initial delay. Either way, GTS specifically is not what I was talking about.
EDIT2: I missed the apostrophe, my mistake.
Phew, that was a lot of editing I had to do.
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zzz_pt
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@cutmeamango
Panic? No. Just surprise and possible disappointment over that possibility (which seems more likely than not given the screenshots you yourself posted as a response). Millions of credits look useless if you don't have enought Milage for upgrading a car. And the only way I see to get Milage is by actually driving miles. Otherwise why call it that even?
On the "track record", when a PD game producer says there will be monthly tracks as DLC, when Kaz says there will be a Vision GT car per month or that GT Award cars will make it into the game (GT6), do you find it unreasonable to expect it? What's reasonable for you? If game producer's and studio director's words are empty, I don't see who would be reasonable to listen to before drawing any kind of assumptions regarding the game.
Panic? No. Just surprise and possible disappointment over that possibility (which seems more likely than not given the screenshots you yourself posted as a response). Millions of credits look useless if you don't have enought Milage for upgrading a car. And the only way I see to get Milage is by actually driving miles. Otherwise why call it that even?
On the "track record", when a PD game producer says there will be monthly tracks as DLC, when Kaz says there will be a Vision GT car per month or that GT Award cars will make it into the game (GT6), do you find it unreasonable to expect it? What's reasonable for you? If game producer's and studio director's words are empty, I don't see who would be reasonable to listen to before drawing any kind of assumptions regarding the game.
cutmeamango
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"Wouldn't that (missing by a lot or not) make it a bad track record?"
My apologies, I thought you were asking me that.
Between GT5 -> GT6 there's no pattern or trend, the "track record is insufficient" to say "it's going to be "good/bad" or "get better/worse" or remain the same". Much less over either one of them isolated.
Unlike Forza that for the last 4 games, the season pass structure they adopted was rather equal.
So if you have a sequence like 1, 1, 1, 1, X, it becomes quite reasonable to assume: Next number is a 1. It's more probable than 0.
No, I do not find unreasonable to expect them. That's pretty reasonable even.
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My original question was posed in steps, really. Did they deliver on what they said they where going, and if not, wouldn't that make it a bad track record? Although we are talking about a specific area, the DLC, there are more promises on different areas that were not met either. That is at least why I think it's not a good one.My apologies, I thought you were asking me that.
Which is nothing I've said. I didn't think it was going to be good, bad, the worst, or the best. I was implying that based off past events, I'm skeptical of the words said about certain statements, especially considering the area they are stating it in they've been bad at hitting it in the past.
The track record isn't insufficient if we look at the past and see what they said compared to what they delivered, in my opinion. They gave us ample information for us to be able to make our judgement on aspects like that.
Also, I've made a ton of edits to my original post, if you want to go over it again just incase something has changed within what you were replying to
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I wonder if in this 2,5 months left PD still doing changes and refinement? Pretty sure those staff at the office didn't have time for summer vacation, but I appreciate them that they really working hard on this new gen of GT and not laid back as before.
We will see more at SEA PSX I guess, which just couple weeks away. And I guess this event is as big as the Paris and last December PSX since Kaz will attend to the event.
We will see more at SEA PSX I guess, which just couple weeks away. And I guess this event is as big as the Paris and last December PSX since Kaz will attend to the event.
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UNILAD Gaming took the GT-R 2017 for a little race on the Nordschleif & the sounds are far better than the beta. Shifting sounds have been improved & I gotta say that I couldn't believe that the driver would catch up to the guy in first. Enjoy.
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Looks like a possible return to chase the rabbit racing. Since the beta had standing and "reasonable" double file rolling starts, going back to the old chase the rabbit style seems like a big step backwards.
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Agreed
This existed in GT6 & so in GT5. Even the AI aren't as challenging as the ones in Project Cars or Asseto Corsa which is the weakness point of GT Sport. The AI seem to follow a strict racing line with a little movement to the right or left. No blocking. No crashing. No contacting.
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The AI in AC formed a parking lot on Nurb GP last night. I spun out and 4 of them were too stupid to go around me. It took over 30 seconds for the first car to drive away...
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I haven't bought the 4th gen console yet, since I lost my passion on gaming console, but when GTS comes then I will surely buy the PS4. Fortunately there are some good games also come alongside GTS like PCars 2 and NFS PB.
marcvic
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Regarding the mileage points (or whatever they'll be called), and how much it takes to unlock power upgrades, it does appear to be an aggregate separate "currency". In the video below, the driver gets 30 mileage points simply for fully participating in the thirty second circuit experience test:
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So far we've seen Credits, XP and "mileage points". Interested to see how its all tied together.
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So far we've seen Credits, XP and "mileage points". Interested to see how its all tied together.
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The power up is just upgrading the range of power the car can operate on. Similar to GT6, upping the power or lowering the weight will change the BoP rating (PP rating in GT6). For fixed BoP races these sliders will likely not be adjustable, but in campaign, arcade, and online modes they will be.
It would seem this is taking the place of parts tuning, so instead of being able to buy a car and immediately make it fast, you have to drive it so many miles before you can increase the power or lower the weight.
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GT Sport having a different offline from previous GT's isn't as bad as I once felt. I didn't like the sound of GT Sport when it was first revealed. The details of fewer cars (many favorites not returning) and an online focused game put me off. We knew there wouldn't be as many tracks and I'm still crossing my fingers for Tsukuba and R246. To me, Sport Mode is the new campaign. As much as I loved GT4, I am now liking the direction GT is heading. I'm loving it.
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Isn't sport mode going to require PS plus? That's already alienating a bunch of fans who don't care for online and don't want to subscribe to PS Plus. PD should have added in offline race championships after the Racing Etiquette events. Making the whole campaign just a series of racing tips is mind boggling.
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I hope you're right. It'd make sense that that's how it'd be done (especially with how the oval BoP was handled in the the beta), but it's still odd. I am real disappointed to see that power/weight is apparently just going to just be a slider, rather than having various parts that will affect the power/torque curve and weight distribution. I was holding out that the tuning parts would still be available for offline functions and online public lobbies while Sport Mode stripped everything down to the stock balanced classes with minor BoP.
This:
What does it means exactly please.
Use mileage to increase the ratios of powering up your car. The extent to which a car is powered up depends of the individual car.
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"Mileage" really is a terrible, terrible name for a currency in a racing game. I can't think of anything else more likely to cause players to entirely misunderstand what it is and what it's for.
Just call it Mile Coins, or GT Points, or freaking anything that isn't already a commonly used motoring term.
Just call it Mile Coins, or GT Points, or freaking anything that isn't already a commonly used motoring term.
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I can't deny they would be alienating many fans. I guess this is PD's iPhone without a headphone jack. Yet, I'm hoping there's more added for offline mode. I played offline most of the time so I can sympathize.
And PS Plus is a steal. I've been given many good games and really cheap prices for some I wanted. Times are changing. I was early to get a PS3, but late to get a smartphone. Always had access to erotica.
I'm just saying catering to everybody isn't possible when you have a vision. Ask any artist.
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I laughed more than i should've
