Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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Okay, so definitely the Red Bull Jr and some other version. While I appreciate it, the Jr. is still too much for what it's worth. It's nice having a low powered formula style car but it has way more downforce than it needs. It should be all about that mechanical grip.
 
From what I see here I think we're going to get:

1. BMW M3 E30 '91 (N200)
2. Lexus RC F GT500 '16 (Gr. 2)
3. Red Bull X2014 Junior '13 (Gr. X)
4. Nissan GT-R R35 NISMO '14 (N600)
5. Mazda RX-7 GT-X (FC) '90 (N200)
6. Aston Martin DB11 Coupe '16 (N600)
7. Nissan GT-R GT500 '16 (Gr. 2)
8. Ford Eckerts Mustang Mach Forty '69 (N800)
9. Ford GT40 Mk. I '66 (Gr. X)
10. Honda NSX-GT GT500 '16 (Gr. 2)
11. Red Bull X2014 Fan Car '14 (Gr. X)
12. ??? (Another Lexus RC F GT3?) (N???/Gr. ???)
13. Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 V-spec '97 (N300)

Seems like I was proven wrong, there's no Lamborghini or Toyota this time, considering in these past updates, Polyphony has had a habit of dropping in a new model from either of the two brands.

Considering we're getting the RC F GT500, it's likely the Super GT cars we're getting are of the 2016 season, and that the liveries would most likely be part of the car rather than counting a separate livery as a separate car, and considering there are 15 liveries for these three cars combined (six for the RC F, four for the GT-R and five for the NSX).
 
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GOTMAXPOWER
It's that time of the month again, he posts the shadows you guess the cars:
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GO!

First I'm seeing is the Super GT Lexus and the return of the Red Bull X-Cars.

Actually the Nissan and Honda are there too, full Super GT GT500 grid confirmed!
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Oh nooo, the return of the Red Bull X1. There goes online mode.

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Anyway, my car guesses. Though, these look more obvious than the last ones.
Top: 1. e30 BMW M3 (didn't expect that), 2. Lexus RCF Super GT, 3. Red Bull Junior, 4. 2012 Nissan GT-R Black Edition (R35)
Middle: 1. 1990 Mazda RX-7 GT-X (FC), 2. Aston Martin DB11, 3. 2018 Nissan GT-R Super GT GT500, 4. Eckert's Ford Mustang Mach 40, 5. Ford GT40 Mk.1 Road Car
Bottom: 1. 2018 Honda NSX Super GT GT500, 2. Red Bull X2014, 3. Lexus LC Super GT GT500. 1997 Nissan Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R33)

I haven't figured out 2 of the cars yet and I'm not sure exactly about my R33 Skyline and GT40 guesses. My backup guess for the Skyline is that it could also be the R32 Calsonic Race Car and my backup for the GT40 guess would be the 2002 GT Concept.

EDIT: Made changes to my guesses.
 
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Mine (and other's observations)

  1. BMW M3 E30
  2. Lexus RC F GT500
  3. Red Bull X Junior
  4. Nissan GT-R NISMO R35
  5. Mazda RX-7 GT-X
  6. Aston Martin DB11
  7. Toyota Supra GR Racing Concept
  8. Eckert's Rod and Custom Mustang Mach Forty
  9. Ford GT40
  10. Honda NSX-GT GT500
  11. Red Bull X Standard
  12. Lexus LC GT500
  13. Nissan Skyline GT-R V-spec R33
 
I'm doing the Mission Challenges and just completed Stage 4/6 LMP challenge. That was a brief multi-class LMP/GT3 overtake scenario. Hopefully we get some multi-class racing in GT league and as a Custom Race option.
 
Does anyone remember when we were back on GT6 eagerly anticipating GT7, then news started to trickle in about the next Gran Turismo and Sport and some of the news was about Kaz bringing a large area of a city or map to drive around. And it was apparently coming to the next Gran Turismo. I can not back up this statement with any links or evidence. But i remember their being a news article on it. Maybe it was something we thought was planned for GT6 but never came to fruition. And maybe it was just rumours.
 
wraith of horus
Does anyone remember when we were back on GT6 eagerly anticipating GT7, then news started to trickle in about the next Gran Turismo and Sport and some of the news was about Kaz bringing a large area of a city or map to drive around. And it was apparently coming to the next Gran Turismo. I can not back up this statement with any links or evidence. But i remember their being a news article on it. Maybe it was something we thought was planned for GT6 but never came to fruition. And maybe it was just rumours.
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I remember a rumour about the track editor: it was supposed to handle areas as big as Manhattan. That's all I recall.
 
wraith of horus
Does anyone remember when we were back on GT6 eagerly anticipating GT7, then news started to trickle in about the next Gran Turismo and Sport and some of the news was about Kaz bringing a large area of a city or map to drive around. And it was apparently coming to the next Gran Turismo. I can not back up this statement with any links or evidence. But i remember their being a news article on it. Maybe it was something we thought was planned for GT6 but never came to fruition. And maybe it was just rumours.
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I remember something about that location. It was like a scape.
Wasn't it where GT6 was introduced?
 
05XR8
I remember something about that location. It was like a scape.
Wasn't it where GT6 was introduced?
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GT6 was launched in Ronda. I remember news sites talking about future portions of a map as a driveable location as though Kaz mentioned something about this in the future. I'm sure i wasn't confusing this with the track editor as that was a different thing and it came later. Ah well. Kaz showed demonstrations of car customizations and tuning parts for future Gran Turismo, GT6. I'm sure it wasn't to do with scapes but i could be wrong.
 
I have a feeling this next update would come on Wednesday, given that it's Polyphony's usual maintenance day and that the servers of GT6 would shut down by that point, allowing them to focus on delivering the update.
 
First race at Monza w/ chicane and the computer cars seem to cut thru the 1st chicane with no penalty.

You get penalised though. Cavallino race and the f458 doesnt really cut it against the 330 p4...
 
That would be the real life time of a high end sports car, but the BMW is a high end racing car, so sub-7 times are possible in real life (though around 6:30 as the top guys are would seem unrealistic since you have the fear of death in real life).
You can do it. If you don't make any major mistake you will bronze it. Now, gold was quite harder to get and took me many many tries.
 
AlexDB9
That would be the real life time of a high end sports car, but the BMW is a high end racing car, so sub-7 times are possible in real life (though around 6:30 as the top guys are would seem unrealistic since you have the fear of death in real life).
You can do it. If you don't make any major mistake you will bronze it. Now, gold was quite harder to get and took me many many tries.
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not even pushing it i get around 7minute laps with my BMW GT3 playstation car.
 
Bogie 19th
I am about to do the ring in the circuit experience. I need to do the entire ring in 7:30 to get a BRONZE? Isn't that REAL LIFE racing times? Not sure I will be able to even get bronze :(
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It's mainly a matter of practice and patience, especially in case you're not familiar with the track. Do the first laps cautiously and then start pushing a little more when you feel comfortable.
If you make a mistake, don't feel bad and keep going: you can always use that run to improve your lines and discover the limits of the car. And, by the way, even with a few errors, a sub 7 lap time is definitely possible.

Good luck!
 
I-Runner
I'm at 19 ... I've learnt only to stay away from troubles .. :sly:

IR
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I didn't do this by racing legitimately, there was no way it was going to happen. I just entered Race A without setting qualifying times and hung back to let any other non-qualifiers pass me so I didn't have to worry about any rear-end surprises... And yet I still had waaaaay too many close calls, this last run had like five separate incidents that almost cost me my streak. Now I can get back to racing.
 
Quakebass
I didn't do this by racing legitimately, there was no way it was going to happen. I just entered Race A without setting qualifying times and hung back to let any other non-qualifiers pass me so I didn't have to worry about any rear-end surprises... And yet I still had waaaaay too many close calls, this last run had like five separate incidents that almost cost me my streak. Now I can get back to racing.
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I did the same for the last 7-8 races to the 15, for the other 4 (to 19) i was a little bit lucky .. :rolleyes:

anyway .. Congrats for the trophy :cheers: 👍

IR
 
Double H
It’s all data available when browsing gran-turismo.com’s GT Sport Community Features.

The site is built as a web app, so instead of loading a complete web page from the server, everything is rendered client side (in your browser) with the only requests/reponses to the server being for raw data. When you first load the community section you also download all the metadata, localisation info and logic that presents the data as the UI.

I was curious to see if there was anything interesting in the metadata and noticed an entry for KYOTO DRIVING PARK - SQUARE. Here’s where it’s actually displayed to users:



From there I explored the main Javascript bundle to see how/where the metadata was processed and found some UI helpers that collate it + image URLs (bundled with the JS) which are then passed onto the renderer to be displayed somewhere—in this case, the replay thumbnails.

Here’s an example of the data for the Nürburgring Nordschleife Tourist Layout. The weathers’ type integer corresponds to localisation strings such as Cloudy, Fine Weather, Sunny etc…

Code: 
{
    "code": "b4004dfa9108d7f290f04e6a3ea58891",
    "country_code": "DE",
    "country_tag": "77",
    "tag": "4347",
    "length": 20832,
    "weathers": {
        "1598": {
            "startTime": "12:00:00",
            "type": 1,
            "isDefault": false
        },
        "1599": {
            "startTime": "20:30:00",
            "type": 5,
            "isDefault": false
        },
        "1604": {
            "startTime": "10:00:00",
            "type": 3,
            "isDefault": false
        },
        "1610": {
            "startTime": "08:00:00",
            "type": 2,
            "isDefault": true
        },
        "1611": {
            "startTime": "19:30:00",
            "type": 5,
            "isDefault": false
        },
        "1619": {
            "startTime": "17:00:00",
            "type": 2,
            "isDefault": false
        },
        "1688": {
            "startTime": "15:00:00",
            "type": 2,
            "isDefault": false
        }
    },
    "code": "b4004dfa9108d7f290f04e6a3ea58891",
    "name": "Nürburgring Nordschleife Tourist Layout",
    "imageThumbnail": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/ff35f86bde9f667d2d5f647eba1bae52.jpg",
    "imageThumbnail2x": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/25c7bb1e1ba86e8de1397c14b7d073a3.jpg",
    "imageOriginal": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/33ab3fbce86d49c0afdb88f81918a0d5.jpg",
    "imageOriginal2x": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/c6040c9e2ac228f77ef3a28a151f4106.jpg",
    "logoSmall": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/5bedb64eb7da45cff4fc329a30c58a85.png",
    "logoLarge": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/57a78f02719e808510357624be729975.png",
    "map": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/4379af0e6b207ca0fae1b46d0469b5fc.png",
    "map2x": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/55c8c7970b1e19b7c129116ac38cec06.png",
    "replayThumbnail": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/bd3f880d39a1921c75687cea5d0206d5.jpg",
    "replayOriginal": "/common/dist/gtsport/community/images/6d967eb0f528220b28419cdaae76d929.jpg"
}

Some highlights from the metadata:

The existence of GR.2 and GR.A classes

Code: 
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.CarClassName.Label_GR1":"Gr.1",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.CarClassName.Label_GR2":"GR.2",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.CarClassName.Label_GR3":"Gr.3",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.CarClassName.Label_GR4":"Gr.4",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.CarClassName.Label_GRA":"GR.A",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.CarClassName.Label_GRB":"Gr.B",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.CarClassName.Label_GRN":"GR.N",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.CarClassName.Label_GRX":"Gr.X"

Mission challenge types:

The unfamiliar ones could be ideas that were discarded during development, and should in no way be treated as a guarantee for future inclusion.

Code: 
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.CAR_CHASE":"Car Chase",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.CATCH_UP":"Catch Up",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.HIGHWAY_STAR":"Highway Star",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.LAST_NLAP":"Last N Laps Battle",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.MISSION_RACE":"Mission Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.OBSTACLE":"Obstacle Course",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.ONELAP_CHALLENGE":"One Lap Challenge",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.OVERTAKE":"Overtaking Challenge",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.PYLON":"Cone Challenge",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.RACE":"Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.SECTOR":"Sector King",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.SPECIAL_CDT":"Special Condition Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.SPECIAL_RALLY":"Special Rally",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.SPEED_CHALLENGE":"Speed Challenge",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.STOP_GO":"Stop and Go",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.TEAM_BATTLE":"Team Battle",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.TIME_RALLY":"Time Rally",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.TOP_SPEED":"Top Speed Challenge",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.EventTargetType.VS_BATTLE":"VS Battle"

There’re also a few legacy entries for features such as COURSE_EDIT, GPS_REPLAY, LICENSE which’ll be carry-overs from previous GTs. Again I can’t stress enough that these are merely fragments of text that’ve likely stuck around throughout GT’s continued development.

Code: 
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.ARCADE_STYLE_RACE":"Time Rally",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.CIRCUIT_EXPERIENCE":"Circuit Experience",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.COFFEE_BREAK":"Coffee Break",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.COURSE_EDIT":"Test Drive",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.DRIFT_ATTACK":"Drift Trial",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.ETIQUETTE":"Racing Etiquette",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.EVENT_RACE":"Event Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.FREE_RUN":"Free Run",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.GPS_REPLAY":"GPS Visualiser",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.GT_LEAGUE":"GT League",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.LAN_PARTY":"Online Battle",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.LICENSE":"Licence",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.MISSION":"Mission Challenge",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.ONLINE_BATTLE":"Quick Match",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.ONLINE_DRIFT_ATTACK":"Online: Drift Trial",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.ONLINE_ROOM":"Lobby",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.ONLINE_SINGLE_RACE":"Online: Single Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.ONLINE_TIME_ATTACK":"Online Time Trial",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.PRACTICE":"Practice",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.RACE_EDIT":"Custom Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.SCHOOL":"Driving School",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.SINGLE_RACE":"Single Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.SPLIT_BATTLE":"2P Split Screen",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.SPORT_CHAMPIONSHIP":"Point Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.SPORT_DAILY_RACE":"Daily Race",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.SPORT_DAILY_RACE_PRACTICE":"Daily Race Qualifying Time Trial",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.SPORT_LIVE":"Sport Live",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.SPORT_POINT_RACE_PRACTICE":"Point Race Free Practice",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.TIME_ATTACK":"Time Trial",
"gt7sp.game.COMMON.GameModeName.VR_TOUR":"VR Drive"

Some other things:
  • The course/manufacturer codes are no longer straight md5 hashes and look to be salted
  • The metadata continues the same car database from previous GTs:
    • ID 205 "Mazda RX-7 Spirit R Type A (FD) '02" matches the hex equivalent (00CD) from the GT6 memory dump
  • There’re working API endpoints for retrieving past Sport Mode results, championship rankings and the daily races. Everything looks ready for a switch to flip them live in the UI.
  • Now these are some orphaned brand central images found in the Javascript bundle and have no corresponding metadata unlike the other brands/manufacturers.
    • Goodyear
      181e484ca9b7a704625ee2df6921110a.png
    • Italdesign Giugiaro (Vision GT)
      5cc7767d2cff96334e215cb9ea68130a.png
    • Pininfarina (replaced by Fittipaldi Motors?)
      45fabd622f96f72b43fa303d21087649.png
    • Pirelli
      f74a8fb498b51ccbbe3f8453047616d7.png
    • Red Bull
      6fd7b90ef72ed42926df1f93f8da6b4e.png
    • Ayrton Senna
      8f1a2593ec1f377309c6775c92625130.png
    • Shell
      d2a5711047b00d94ad17d7bbca323c14.png
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If the next update actually introduces Gr. 2, then there's definitely hope for Gr. A... Super premium Delta, anyone?
Oh, and the Red Bull logo makes me wonder if the X2014s will find their place in a new dealership, or will be put under "Gran Turismo" (like past GTs) in the brand central.
 

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