Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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It would indeed be very strange, not new for PD though, they've done it in the past with a few things. Although obviously nothing as high profile as a full game beta.

They've still got time though, so as we've done the last 5 months, we can just only continue to wait.

It seems as though Sony's 1st party devs (particularly in Japan for some reason) are given far too much leeway in terms of just getting something out of the door. The Last Guardian is the other title that springs to mind.

Can you imagine Microsoft letting Halo just randomly slip a release date, with no mention at all...?
 
Wouldn't you have been better off with ps4+pcars/assetto corsa/pcars2? And someday (lol) gtsport?

X1 is really behind in this generation.

I guess for some it would be that way, but not as I see it. I've always been a fan of other racing games, but none have quite hit me as well as Forza. That's my personal opinion of course, and someday when GT Sport comes out I still have strong doubt it will offer what I'm looking for.

And X1 and PS4 really just offer different things... X1 is more casual for me and I like that. PS4 is starting to get too complex and greedy between the PS4, PS VR, and PS4K rumors.
 
Well guys... after long thought and weighing options, I traded in my PS4 over the weekend to get an Xbox ONE. I'll be picking up Forza 6 tonight :D

I really hope you all get what we've all been waiting for with GT Sport/ GT 7, but my endless waiting has come to an end.

That's cool, I guess you can keep us posted about your first impressions
 
The Last Guardian went through much worse development issues than PD has ever had. PD didn't have senior members of the team leaving because of problems with developing the game.

The point still stands though.

Microsoft, or any other company for that matter, would never allow what is happening (or not happening, lol) to TLG or GT.
 
Well guys... after long thought and weighing options, I traded in my PS4 over the weekend to get an Xbox ONE. I'll be picking up Forza 6 tonight :D

I really hope you all get what we've all been waiting for with GT Sport/ GT 7, but my endless waiting has come to an end.

You picked a good time. The FM6 section has it's own type of speculation – as you'll see in that thread – so you'll get comfortable pretty quickly. :P

There's no way a falling out among the development team happens without it getting reported on.

It's possible: PD could very well subscribe to the idea that no news is good news. What's worse: to announce nothing, or announce there's been a major shake-up and set-backs?

Personally, I find it hard to believe we won't hear anything out of them in April. GT Academy starts this month, and the end of the month will mark half a year since the original reveal.
 
The Last Guardian went through much worse development issues than PD has ever had. PD didn't have senior members of the team leaving because of problems with developing the game.

Well we don't exactly know do we? We simply know nothing of PD's development proces on ps4 :irked:

After 3 years still nothing but a trailer for ps4. That's not exactly what I call smooth.
 
No news is gambling. While competitors crank out gaining the attention of the market (and this is a niche market), PD stands to loose some faithful and new prospects. The market isn't the same anymore. Turn 10's got FM looking good, PCars, Assetta Corsa, etc. GT ain't the only gig around anymore. Combine this with the whole wheel chip crap, new PS4K, PS VR, and what not, GT might just become a memory.

PD would have to literally create something epic as it stands. Something beyond sound improvements, AI, field count, online play, etc. And that's the gamble. Say nothing for a long time and announce a game with expected features won't cut it. PD is good but they ain't Apple.

Rant over ... beer anyone?
 
There are games that were shown at the announcement of the PS4 that haven't been seen since.

The sense of entitlement in this sub-forum.... :rolleyes:

With set release dates and beta dates? Of sequels with existing fanbases? It's become rather common over the years to tease new games way before they're ready for release but it's rare companies do that with existing franchises on purpose, and when they do its usually without any dates, so fans know to expect it's a long way away. For new IPs, it's easier to tease 3/4 years out and then go quiet as there are no existing fans to disappoint with lack of news.

What we're talking about here is a franchise with a huge established fanbase and you have to deal with that differently. You know the fanbase are going to be restless and want information on the announced game, and you also know they're going to expecting a game on a new console in general. Especially when we're talking about a huge first party game.

PD have so far done a double whammy. They've gone two and half years into the new console with no game, and the game they have announced, they've gone silent on. I don't see it as entitlement, just continuing frustration with this franchise and how PD operate. This is not new ground for PD and its fans and to me it's easy to understand why fans are getting tired of it.
 
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There are games that were shown at the announcement of the PS4 that haven't been seen since.

The sense of entitlement in this sub-forum.... :rolleyes:
Not having a GT title on a Sony console that's been out for years already is a sorry state of affairs if you ask me.
You can drink all the Kool Aid you want, but I'm not having any.
I've been playing GT since day one and I've seen delay after delay happen far too often.
It's not a sense of self entitlement either, it's expectation, something different altogether.
 
To add to what @Samus has said: it's not surprising folks are getting restless as we approach the six month mark. After the GT5 fiasco ("we can release whenever we want", etc etc), it really seemed like PD had taken a different approach to pre-release buzz. The original GT6 official announcement? May 15, 2013. The game would be in the PS3's of fans around the world less than seven months later.

While the Course Maker turned out to be a huge ordeal of its own, we did get a steady stream of info from PD after the original announcement.

Polyphony themselves have said "early 2016". It's not "entitlement" for people to hope for more info as that window gets increasingly smaller.
 
I said it a while back but I'll never understand the logic behind their 100% silence. Even if we imagine the absolute worst case scenario and PD are locked down by the FIA and can't show or say anything about most aspects of the game they would still own their car models, their own tracks, there is no way they would be so locked down they couldn't show off screenshots of cars, and they've already done so with a dozen in the trailer and little bits here and there since.

Why have they not, over the last five months, continued to release screenshots of those 11 cars and two tracks, maybe a few more totally new ones? Sure it wouldn't make up for the otherwise silence, but it'd be something. It would have people talking about the game, analysing each shot. They could have also surely still spoken about some small aspects of the game, the miniscule tidbits the Facebook guy has released proves this. One post a week with a handful of screenshots, an interactive look around a car, a 20 second teaser, some audio teasers. Anything.

Again, that is even considering the worst case scenario, which I doubt is actually the case, and so they would be surely free to show a lot more.

Just look at what T10 do with their DLC cars each month, it's a little thing in the grand scheme of things but teasing the contents and giving clues gets the community engaged and interested in your product. It gets the name going around on social media, a huge tool in 2016 promotion of your product.

Why Sony and PD haven't done this at all is mind boggling to me. The game has as good as disappeared from public interest the last five months.
 
To add to what @Samus has said: it's not surprising folks are getting restless as we approach the six month mark. After the GT5 fiasco ("we can release whenever we want", etc etc), it really seemed like PD had taken a different approach to pre-release buzz. The original GT6 official announcement? May 15, 2013. The game would be in the PS3's of fans around the world less than seven months later.
You might even say that they learnt more during the GT5/GT6 period rather than from GT1 to GT4.
But yet again, quoting @pasigiri market isn't the same anymore, there are tons of things rarely taken into consideration that just thinking about it, makes my head spin.
I wish not to digress so i'll just take two games as example of what i'm trying to say:
Take into consideration games like Assetto Corsa and Driveclub (or even Need For Speed,i'll explain later why.)
It is true that newcomers in the racing genre have to differentiate, but what did they really do?
While one has kept a Developer's Diary , useful for fans of the racing genre and first timers to keep up with the progress made by developers, the other was massively present on social media (not that Kunos guys are unreacheable, but it's a different matter, hope you get my point). We even got a goodbye message when Evolution Studios were shut down. It's true that we're speaking about new faces of the industry (not Evolution related), and they have all the rights in "showing off the goods", but it's also true that staying in touch with the fanbase is the latest trend within game devs, movie makers and so on.
Now, i'm not gonna jump on the "PD hates us because they won't speak to us" bandwagon. It's beating a dead horse, and while partially true ( stillness in comunications) i'd like to remember that PD is a small studio with less than 200 people doing everything but comunicating with fans. Polar opposite we have Need For Speed.
Need for Speed it's the kind of brand that it's always in the game (no pun.) even when their game actually isn't doing very well or has a load of bad review due to glitch,bugs and stuff. While GT is far more apprecciated by motorsport and sim racing fans, need for speed is (also due to its longevity in the industry) the best selling racing game franchise (excluding of course mario kart*) and while we may argue on which game is the best, that's a fact.
The point i was trying to make is that GT's gotta start over, just like back in 1997. Just making a good game isn't enough unfortunately and while just making a good racing game with solid,fun and new functions is hard itself, marketing it is totally a different beast.

While the Course Maker turned out to be a huge ordeal of its own, we did get a steady stream of info from PD after the original announcement.
Without taking into account the fact that they'll keep with the VGT program ( that they confirmed even in the earliest GT6 stages) or the FIA championship (confirmed again during GT6 mid-early phase) there's not much we actually know
I have to go further re: 'early' 2016. Consider a working day is 12 hours (6am to 6pm) would after 10am (after April) be considered early in the day?
Hey now, no reason to jump the gun.
We don't actually know each worker's day schedule. You know, that'd be creepy.
But yet again the total silence in regards of the project is something reminiscing the past, where the only thing you knew about videogames was either rumor or facts given by the game itself. No teasers, no nothing. Just specialized magazines could afford such thing, but you just can't put on the same lever a "Computer & Videogames" article to a game developer's diary.
 
How I wish this was the case for me, I fired it up a week ago and have to be honest was simply disappointed.

For me PD do have a lot to do with GTS to make it a product that will once again lead the market.
Ok, I've never tried AC but I did try pCARS on a controller and it was utter s:censored:t, it was a while ago and I remember playing the first race with clios... that FWD car spun out on the STRAIGHT!!! Then I tried M3 e30 and even if you get a hint of oversteer it is impossible to correct it, messed with the settings and controller presets for an hour, nothing helped, sold it for 2/3 of the price.(NOTE: pCARS is probbably x100 times better with a wheel but I don't have it).Got back to GT6 and it was just amazing, first I drove an NA mx5 and it was very easy to drive, well balanced, oversteery but fun, then I tried NC miata and it was a lot more planted and serious than the NA, then I drove an EK civic and it had "pronounced" exit understeer, then I drove an NSX and that thing was like a dart, then I drove a 787b and that thing was very twichy and unstable but menagable... Anyways my point is that it's incredible how good GT6 play's with the controller.(I guess you could say that's groundbreaking by itself, lol but let's not go there)

One more thing, GTS doesn't need to be groundbreaking just because it's bigger name than the rest, it just needs to be better than pCARS and AC. People won't care that GTS isn't groundbreaking as long as it's the best console sim out there.

And will it be the best? We'll just have to wait and see
Finally! Someone who agrees with me!
 
I said it a while back but I'll never understand the logic behind their 100% silence.

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Why have they not, over the last five months, continued to release screenshots of those 11 cars and two tracks, maybe a few more totally new ones?

...

Why Sony and PD haven't done this at all is mind boggling to me. The game has as good as disappeared from public interest the last five months.

Totally agree again Samus.

This isn't teens trolling, it's long time fans understandably disappointed with a PR strategy antiquated in the extreme.

This isn't 1997.

Give us some info.
 

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