Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

[Mike_grpA]

On the subject of controlling torque steer with a pad: Torque steer is present in a lot of games these days, even Driveclub has it. In Pcars, which has notoriously poor controller implementation, controlling torque steer is no harder than anything else. You just counter steer against it, the same as you would if your car kicked out the back end in a corner. I see no reason why it would be difficult for pad users to control.

Drifting on a pad is far easier than with a wheel in GT games, due to the filtering of stick movements to prevent too much lock being applied, and smoothing out the harsh inputs, so I imagine the same would apply to when you are controlling torque steer.

A lot of you here want the best driving simulator but in my opinion you don't sell 10 million copies with an iRacing game. I, as the spokesman of casual gamers , want a FUN and challenging game. From GT1 to GT3 (I didn't play GT4), all their games were fun : music, gameplay, challenge...

A game doesn't need to be unrealistic to be fun. You can have a realistic sim that is fun, just as you can have unrealistic racing games that aren't fun. GT games recently have provided a large number of assists to help people of all ages and skill levels play the game. There's no risk of PD not catering to casuals.

GT6 was squarely aimed at casuals, and that was, IMO, by far the least fun GT game of all. Pcars is much more realistic, and is also much more fun.

 

[Chikane_GTR]

Anyone wanna have a Avatar bet on a feature we all think GTS is gonna have but i personally don't loser has to wear a avatar of the winner choice for an entire week

Anyway this feature is not gonna be in GTS

Spoiler: ...

 

[CSLACR]

To a couple select individuals, that cannot seem to handle opinions not their own:
Let me be clear;
I don't think racing games (any) need torque steer for controllers. Possibly mild torque steer that isn't realistic but realistic torque steer would be a massive pain in the ass. (yes in my opinion, and I am actually pretty good at the particular game series in question, so if I think it's "hard" that makes my statement even more impressive)

You don't have to agree, but if any of the lurkers that hound everyone in the GTS forums carrying a different opinion than their own think they're just going to roll me over, they don't know the half of it.

So I guess you'll just have to find a way to cope with that.

 

[ImaRobot]

To a couple select individuals, that cannot seem to handle opinions not their own:
Let me be clear;
I don't think racing games (any) need torque steer for controllers. Possibly mild torque steer that isn't realistic but realistic torque steer would be a massive pain in the ass. (yes in my opinion, and I am actually pretty good at the particular game series in question, so if I think it's "hard" that makes my statement even more impressive)

You don't have to agree, but if any of the lurkers that hound everyone in the GTS forums carrying a different opinion than their own think they're just going to roll me over, they don't know the half of it.

So I guess you'll just have to find a way to cope with that.

So you make blatantly wrong statements, and then turn around and try to play the victim? It seems your the one that can't take opinions, as you seem to fall back into this exact scenario when people question yours. You tell me that I was wrong in my assumption, but then you post nothing to correct me, and when asked, you tell me to go ask someone else?

What game are you comparing it to, that makes you think itll be a pain in the ass on a pad? Torque steer isn't any more difficult than what you're already doing with a pad. Forza can attest to that.

You'd be OK with FWD cars that drive nothing like FWD cars?

 

[Tornado]

and I am actually pretty good at the particular game series in question, so if I think it's "hard" that makes my statement even more impressive

There's nothing impressive about someone who talks himself up all the way up to the exact point that he has to actually defend what he was saying.

You don't have to agree, but if any of the lurkers that hound everyone in the GTS forums carrying a different opinion than their own think they're just going to roll me over, they don't know the half of it.

It hasn't been difficult so far. In fact, I'm going from memory here, but I'm pretty sure it never has been in any forum you've posted in; and I'm guessing if I was to actually look it up the "claim things until someone calls you on it and then try to argue irrelevancies and strawmen instead" posting pattern is not limited to this thread and the thread from a few days ago where you claimed someone else had alot to learn about professional engine building in the same "dicussion" that you repeatedly implied Super GT V8s were turbocharged so could easily take more boost.









So for the purposes of actually being relevant to the original thing you said instead of your transparent attempt to duck away from it, I'll ask directly: Why would fighting torque steer, something other games that support controllers already have (sometimes to exagerrated levels) and manage fine, be something too difficult to deal with in this series for someone who is already able to use a pad to successfully haul a car around a race track and all that entails?

 

[CSLACR]

No, I just know the drill.
You guys argue for pages, and eventually if you don't make headway, you or one of your friends report it to try to get me in trouble.(aka you tell mom)

I just don't care enough to rebutt so many false claims, the irony of the word strawman from you is beyond measure.

 

[ImaRobot]

I just don't care enough to rebutt so many false claims, the irony of the word strawman from you is beyond measure.

Post about irony is very ironic.

You brought up claims, examples, and hypothetical situations that you didn't have the knowledge to back up. Most of which where based off wrong, or unknown information on your part. The easiest way to avoid this was to not go around telling people they are wrong because then they won't have to ask you why.

 

[PureAlpha1206]

Anyone wanna have a Avatar bet on a feature we all think GTS is gonna have but i personally don't loser has to wear a avatar of the winner choice for an entire week

Anyway this feature is not gonna be in GTS

Spoiler: ...

I don't know about the betting lol, but I don't see why GTS or any GT game for that matter can't have a rotating view. Something so simple!

 

[Tornado]

No, I just know the drill.
You guys argue for pages, and eventually if you don't make headway, you or one of your friends report it to try to get me in trouble.(aka you tell mom)

I just don't care enough to rebutt so many false claims, the irony of the word strawman from you is beyond measure.

As much as that looks like pretty solid proof that it is in fact very easy to "roll you over", and as a result extremely easy to "cope with", I'm not particularly interested in your persecution complex.




Why would fighting torque steer, something other games that support controllers already have (sometimes to exagerrated levels) and manage fine, be something too difficult to deal with in this series for someone who is already able to use a pad to successfully haul a car around a race track and all that entails?

 

[Formidable]

No, I just know the drill.
You guys argue for pages, and eventually if you don't make headway, you or one of your friends report it to try to get me in trouble.(aka you tell mom)

I just don't care enough to rebutt so many false claims, the irony of the word strawman from you is beyond measure.

First of all, we aren't the people that try to report someone to prove our argument right. It's a bit too childish for most of us here, if you ask me.

If you think we are bashing your opinion, we aren't, or at least I'm not. We are just trying to discuss how and if it would be good for the game or not, simple as that. If you want to hold your opinion, that's fine, but don't be so rejective of others'.

But yes, I've seen some strawmen from others, but I'm not going to point fingers.

Anyways, I don't think torque steer needs to be an in-depth topic here. In past GT games, I've found it enjoyable with a controller (unless you guys haven't, which in that case, keep discussing then I guess )

Anyone wanna have a Avatar bet on a feature we all think GTS is gonna have but i personally don't loser has to wear a avatar of the winner choice for an entire week

Anyway this feature is not gonna be in GTS

Spoiler: ...

Already have set a bet with @sems4arsenal that Porsches won't be in the game

 

[RaY29rus]

No news for February, I guess.

 

[JKgo]

No news for February, I guess.

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Spoiler: WHY?? ME CONFUSED

 

[Chikane_GTR]

No news for February, I guess.

 

[super_gt]

At this point they can confirm only the title name Gran Turismo SPORT,for more confirmation please wait until you get bored to death

 

[GTPorsche]

They'll give more info when they give more info and not a moment sooner than that.

Until then, asking them through various social media accounts is only going to get generic answers in response.

 

[Zlork]

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No news for February, I guess.

He talks about beta or GT Sport?

 

[TS050]

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He talks about beta or GT Sport?

Everything, I presume.

 

[sems4arsenal]

When someone asks me for details about GTSport

 

[queleuleu]

Just my opinion, but I'm afraid that the next news about GTsport won't be before the Geneva motor show.

So PD lol, I'm not even surprised.
Maybe, Maybeeee, they wait for a big trailer : Porsche is coming to Gran Turismo and Chiron is the cover car.

 

[TS050]

Porsche is coming to Gran Turismo

...how?

 

[queleuleu]

...how?

Theory based on nothing.

 

[Zlork]

Theory based on nothing.
This guy is lucky...

It's highly likely that this is GT6

 

[queleuleu]

@Zlork Oh, my bad. Edit post incoming.

 

[Samus]

Nothing in February? That 'early 2016' beta is looking less and less likely. 84 days to go, max.

 

[sems4arsenal]

Nothing in February? That 'early 2016' beta is looking less and less likely. 84 days to go, max.

Guessing an announcment of the beta at Geneva with a May/April window.

 

[Samus]

Guessing an announcment of the beta at Geneva with a May/April window.

It's possible but if so someone really needs to remind PD they are still a video game company creating video games. They seem to be forgetting that.

 

[sems4arsenal]

It's possible but if so someone really needs to remind PD they are still a video game company creating video games. They seem to be forgetting that.

Was Prolouge marketed heavily?

 

[Samus]

Was Prolouge marketed heavily?

I can't remember exactly but I'm pretty sure it was promoted and marketed as a video game at video game events, not at real world car and racing events.

 

[sems4arsenal]

I can't remember exactly but I'm pretty sure it was promoted and marketed as a video game at video game events, not at real world car and racing events.

Yeah I have no idea what they're doing

 

[Tired Tyres]

Also GT5P was released in Japan first, then Europe, then America so there was plenty of time between to find stuff out.

They managed to get 1 million per orders in Europe. You don't get that behaving how PD are behaving now.