Perhaps the FT-1 was just down on torque compared to the other cars. The stretch from Bergwerk to Karussell might look flat, but in reality it's one of the steepest sections of the whole circuit.
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Perhaps the FT-1 was just down on torque compared to the other cars. The stretch from Bergwerk to Karussell might look flat, but in reality it's one of the steepest sections of the whole circuit.
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The online play is still very twitchy, seems to be just intermittent lag at times.
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Much of the gap is made up before the first left hander. He's too far back for the draft to have any consequence whatsoever, assuming it's based on real world drafting physics.
Nope. Torque is almost meaningless at that speed, it's HP that counts. Proof is in the pudding as they say. He doesn't seem to have any problem holding his own from Dottinger to Tiergarten where the cars get side by side. In fact, he starts out ahead at Dottinger, the others draft alongside but can't get by and he actually emerges ahead through Hohenrain. If torque or aero was an issue with that car it would have shown up there, but it doesn't. It doesn't make any sense when you put it all together.Perhaps the FT-1 was just down on torque compared to the other cars. The stretch from Bergwerk to Karussell might look flat, but in reality it's one of the steepest sections of the whole circuit.
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They are different cars with different power with different areo and different weight and different drivers... It would only be curious if they were dead equal.
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I'm a little surprised that at the London event 2? updated builds were delivered in hours (they made a point of new builds coming through all the time) and yet here there appear to be none after 2+ weeks. What is that about?
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I guess you can explain then why the cars were absolutely dead equal on the backstretch under full acceleration without the benefit of a draft. I assume you can also explain them how that same car was able to retain the lead on that same back stretch without the benefit of the draft when it lost so much time in another part of the course under the same conditions. I am curious to hear your answer.
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I watched again the races from Japan event but now in 1080p quality and it seems that the graphics are much better than they were in London, specially trees and anti aliasing. Still some glitches in fences and tree shadows, but more polished than before.
Keep bringing new builds PD. With this pace I believe the e3 build will look awesome.
Keep bringing new builds PD. With this pace I believe the e3 build will look awesome.
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I dunno, I saw the same thing there, too. Like the cars could just be turned on a dime with no respect for the weight transfer that needs to take place or the grip involved. Quick example:
That just looks like something out of Driveclub to me.
Maybe I've just been spoiled not having played GT in a long time with hundreds of hours of Assetto Corsa and the like since.
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It seems to me they were catching consistently. The faster you go, the larger the physical separation is for a given time difference. At 200 km/h they were 1.5 seconds behind and by the time they'd hit 250 it was down to under a second. That's a separation of about 80 metres then 70 metres.
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In regards to the gap being closed up too quickly, perhaps the lead driver messed up a gear change or had to momentarily back out of the throttle. I'm not too concerned.
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I dunno, I saw the same thing there, too. Like the cars could just be turned on a dime with no respect for the weight transfer that needs to take place or the grip involved. Quick example:
That just looks like something out of Driveclub to me.
Maybe I've just been spoiled not having played GT in a long time with hundreds of hours of Assetto Corsa and the like since.
Really a weird behavior in that gif. Maybe because it's a fantasy car.
But every other single player replay I saw the cars were behaving very realistic.
There's even a side by side replay video on YouTube comparing the sounds between GTS and Asset Corsa and in that video the car behavior in GTS looked more realistic to me. Maybe the replay do not represent the physics very well in AC?
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It is a race car with likely pretty stiff suspension settings so that's probably part of it. But I agree it still looks a little strange there.I dunno, I saw the same thing there, too. Like the cars could just be turned on a dime with no respect for the weight transfer that needs to take place or the grip involved. Quick example:
That just looks like something out of Driveclub to me.
Maybe I've just been spoiled not having played GT in a long time with hundreds of hours of Assetto Corsa and the like since.
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There is a notorious threading of a needle on that climb, too, which is very easy to screw up even with downforce.
How close do you need to be to get the "benefit" of a dirty wake, anyway?
Regarding the horsepower / torque aspect, it's primarily dictated by the gearing in the sense that it determines where in the powerband you are for a given road speed. It's quite possible that once the Toyota gets up above 250, it has a hair more than the others, which may peak sooner and overrev. It was also on the inside of its immediate competitors at two crucial points (Antoniusbuche -> Tiergarten vs. the Jag and Macca and the Hohenrain chicane vs. the Renault).
The Bugatti likely has lots of aero, and the steering animation is probably not 1:1, still.
How close do you need to be to get the "benefit" of a dirty wake, anyway?
Regarding the horsepower / torque aspect, it's primarily dictated by the gearing in the sense that it determines where in the powerband you are for a given road speed. It's quite possible that once the Toyota gets up above 250, it has a hair more than the others, which may peak sooner and overrev. It was also on the inside of its immediate competitors at two crucial points (Antoniusbuche -> Tiergarten vs. the Jag and Macca and the Hohenrain chicane vs. the Renault).
The Bugatti likely has lots of aero, and the steering animation is probably not 1:1, still.
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In the Tokyo race, the fourth car was 12 seconds faster in the last lap. That´s a big rubber banding
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They could just be using boost, which makes sense, but i don't think we saw that option yet?
On the other hand, Bergwerk is one of the most difficult corners to get it right on the Nordschleife, if you exit about 5 km/h faster, you will close the gap on the climb. And is one of those sections that different torque/horsepower counts the most.
On the other hand, Bergwerk is one of the most difficult corners to get it right on the Nordschleife, if you exit about 5 km/h faster, you will close the gap on the climb. And is one of those sections that different torque/horsepower counts the most.
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Exactly forget the Ring, that was a clear sign of something fishy going on.
Just after the crash, miles behind.
4th place finished lap one, still behind by approx 13 seconds.
Then by the end of the 2nd lap...
Caught up completely and gone 10 seconds faster. The top three were barging around a bit but not enough to lose 10 seconds.
Sure you can, but dont mix up with physic issue and connection issue
10% done, so it will be improved at the final build. But concerning the lag, i think it will not disappear completely, we dont know how the data work on spectator mode so
At this race we can see some interesting idea from replay, like the camera focus but it seem it doesnt work properly
And for the race itself, there is definely a boost option
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Boost is extremely likely for the extra drama it can sustain.
