Oh. You mean like literally every post you've made about what the pre-release marketing for GT Sport means for the future of the entire franchise. Gotcha.
*yawn*
You linked a Wikipedia page in your argument about what constitutes a full Gran Turismo game as proof that there had only been seven. You linked a page that was simply a list of every Gran Turismo or related game publicly released in a single region; hilariously being quite a bit more than seven.
I quoted what Kaz actually said about a game you were ignoring. I quoted what the Gran Turismo website actually said about a game you were ignoring.
You insisted that Sony would be incapable of numbering the next Gran Turismo game as 7 because it wouldn't actually be the seventh game (again, not that GT Sport is the seventh game anyway according to the people who actually made them).
I posted half a dozen game franchises with numbered sequels that aren't even close to the number the game actually was.
You want to pick and choose which information you actually care to interpret as ironclad proof of your assumptions, fine. Get back to everyone here when your posts have some substance to them beyond pure wordcount.
Still deflecting and hiding behind stuff I have already addressed because you aslo don't accept the answer.
It's GT7, I provided the quotes where Kaz said as much. You just don't want to read them. Not once have you talked about them because you know everything else you are saying is renderred meaningless by them. Instead you insist Kaz and Polyphony said something they actually didn't, the website which added words that were not actually said actually said those things. I'm sure you think those things because the impression is now set in your mind and you are not open to the alternative.
Even in this post you have selected the elements you want and left the others out to distort the outcome to one you want to believe.
Any chance of a source with Kaz saying it isn't a spin-off?
I did ask politely before, and I'm genuinely interested in that because I too have watched all the interviews and must have missed it.
As I said before I'm looking, I'm having trouble finding 2 interviews now, both of them are being showed as private when I click links that come up in Youtube search but perhaps they are embedded somewhere. I could go back through this thread if I get desperate but that's the long way for sure. Maybe someone else can help find the source, I know I was surprised when i saw it because I had previously said that GTS was a spin off and now I actually can't remember if I got that information froma reliable source or just saw it here. At least this time I know that it was Kaz that told me it isn't a spin off, I just can't seem to find the source again.
That said until I find it without directly saying it I have managed to find multiple sources which support it "we could have called it Gran Turismo 7, at this stage I think either name would work." from the Team VVV video and "we actually could have called it 7 and the reason why we decided to go with Sport
instead is because the major focus of this title is that we are starting this new Sport mode that is going to change the racing world and if you consider the Gran turismo 1 through 6 as the first era or first generation of Gran Turismo, starting from Sport we are really entering this new era and that's why when I really considered it,
it seemed better to call it Gran Turismo Sport... and we could have easily called it 7, it has all the features, it has the size of a full size game and when people have asked me over and over again the same question, I went back and thought about it, I could have called it 7, it would have been easier to do so but that was the reasoning behind the name of the title." from the GameSpot video. My point with these is simply that this is GT7 without being GT7 because the name GT7 would not have carried the same message and then made this title more comparable to the previous generation. The progression is if this is GT7 except in name but isn't GT7 because it is actually a change in direction for the series and the beginning of a new era it both implies that the old era has come to an end and it shows that this isn't a spin off because it is actually the nest step in the series but a change in direction.
But I will keep looking for the actual source you have requested.
There is none, it is a general consensus. I was just reiterating
@Quakebass' point.
Either way, its not really too off to be able to assume that, considering the change in focus in comparison to the main titles. I know they're trying to push away from that notion, but it's easy to make the assumption.
I was sure there wasn't a source and as I posted when I asked for the source it is the opposite of what all the official information is saying and even the 2 quotes I have posted in this post again also show that. It is simply wishful thinking against what we are being told. I previously also thought it was a spin off. There is enough evidence here to see it isn't but since I know that there was a more definitive statement I would like to find that again so we can put it to rest.
GTSport is a spin-off, the way they priced it, shows exactly that
Not in Australia, it is the same price as GT6
Other things that support this as a spin off, the lack of tuning like we are used to in previous titles (mentioned in one of the latest interviews, where they mention that there won't be 1000hp GT-Rs as an example), and for example, lack of classic road and racecars. PD, wouldn't dare to completely forget those, in favor of just modern cars... after all, they also love classics.
No these do not prove it is a spin off, they are a result of it being Sport focused, those things are simply incompatible with the new direction of the series. By the way, there is no lack of tuning, there is a lack of modification because clearly that doesn't fit with then New FIA racing era, GT3 cars for example are not allowed to be modified after homologation by FIA in real life except where stipulated for the purpose of BoP which actually means FIA slows them down.
In this we won't have the same level of tuning
Source? I think there will be more tuning, just no modification.
the same variety of cars and tracks and a full campaign.
It is perfectly understandable why it has the number of cars it does at launch, the fact is there is already more than enough in this title, just not the one I want to race yet.
It also has a full campaign, it just isn't the one you were expecting, it is different because Sport is the new focus for the series and the old campaign would be counter productive to the focus on Sport, in other words if this game actually had a old style offline campaign it would not become the future of Motorsports as FIA and Polyphony wish it to.
And this is where the next game comes (probably GT7). Keeping all the cars and tracks already modeled, the same lighting (maybe improved a bit if there's need for it) and the same physics (also improved if there's need for that too). The rest, is just adding content, cars, tracks, tuning, campaign, improvements to the online mode and AI. GTSport and it's "mechanics" will stay pretty much the same (if it's good, why change it?), so all they need to give us, is content.
Based on what? Because it is what you want?
GTSport has tuning, I don't know why you keep implying it doesn't. GT Sport can't have modification and the Sport element in any future title also can't have modification. The idea of modifying a race car is a silly thing to request, it doesn't happen in real life except when a race car is re purposed for a different series. The fact is former GT titles didn't actually represent a form of racing you do in real life, on the other hand GT Sport is real racing, it will include an official sanctioned Motorsport, it will be the real thing and even if it only sells a million copies that would make it the biggest Motorsport in the world. Anyone who wants to see this Motorsport thrive will understand why it can't have an offline campaign alongside it, because that offline campaign will be detrimental to the online campaign, this is why it doesn't have those things, not because it is a spin off but because they would be bad for the direction of the series. This is the new Gran Turismo.
@nasanu @Tired Tyres it don't matter who they work for, or if money changed hands. There doing something right in life for money to be changing hands. And in this case there expert input is of financial benifit to themselves. SMS paid for such input and that's logical. So there input is as I have said earlier more valid then either of your. So back to my original point !
You can answer with your wallet by not purchasing SMS games and that's fine's... You win and every bodies happy
Kaz is also a real life race driver so his input is just as valid as theirs. The point you seem to miss is just like Kaz they are actually invested in PCARS, they own a share and their return is directly dependant on the sales of the game so it is in their best interest to tell people it is the best even if it isn't true. A persons background is irrelevant if their primary motivation for praising something is profit or I should say simply because I have no actual idea what their primary motivation is that regardless of their experience nothing they say is worth a pinch of salt because it is impossible to know that they are not saying it just to make more money.
