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The slides at the PS4 pro event mentioned only "Gran Turismo", now that... if only it was real. TBH, we all wait a true GT, not that weird copy of iRacing.Am I reading way too much into the fact it says
..and not Gran Turismo Sport?
The slides at the PS4 pro event mentioned only "Gran Turismo", now that... if only it was real. TBH, we all wait a true GT, not that weird copy of iRacing.Am I reading way too much into the fact it says
..and not Gran Turismo Sport?
Don't know what else it could be. I just see it as the people/developers of GT going to PSX to present for the game.Am I reading way too much into the fact it says
..and not Gran Turismo Sport?
Don't know what else it could be. I just see it as the people/developers of GT going to PSX to present for the game.
No man, the old sound is the new standard car....Next thing you I'll be hearing is that they are renaming it to GT7 and decided to include all the premium cars from GT6 as Semi Premium which I'll be totally okay with (with improved sounds ofcourse)
Personally, I don't really see a rename or re-imagination since, from what I can see, the game name, idea, and concept are set in stone at this point. I could be wrong, but I just don't see why it would signify a possible name change.Well as I've been suggesting for a while now, it could be another sign that GT Sport may be getting renamed/re-imagined just as "Gran Turismo HD" was.
Personally, I don't really see a rename or re-imagination since, from what I can see, the game name, idea, and concept are set in stone at this point. I could be wrong, but I just don't see why it would signify a possible name change.
Or if iRacing came to consoles, I'd be all over that. But nah, not even then. I'd still buy GT.With a few tweaks/improvements, PCars 2 may keep me from considering the GT series.
PD releases GT5 and GT6 for the PS3.So i bought the PS4 with the expectation of playing Gran Turismo 6 on it. Lo and behold, PD only releases GT6 for the PS3, then they delay the next GT game, and now I've bought the PS4 Pro, and still don't know when this game will release. I really struggle to understand how pathetically bad PD can screw up their product and reputation. It's like they're purposely trying to fail. With a few tweaks/improvements, PCars 2 may keep me from considering the GT series.
Who told you GT6 was for the PS4So i bought the PS4 with the expectation of playing Gran Turismo 6 on it. Lo and behold, PD only releases GT6 for the PS3, then they delay the next GT game, and now I've bought the PS4 Pro, and still don't know when this game will release. I really struggle to understand how pathetically bad PD can screw up their product and reputation. It's like they're purposely trying to fail. With a few tweaks/improvements, PCars 2 may keep me from considering the GT series.
As for the name, I hope they keep GT Sport - I like it. Iterative names are archaic and stuck in the past.
Release GT Sport, keep building on it, flesh it out, charge for an expansion in a few years - create the ultimate racing game gradually. Don't rush out some 'full experience GT7" that gets dumped and then sidelined for work GT8.
"GT as a service" should be the aim.
And if they are smart, which i think they are being, they realise that gaming is all about mutiplayer/social now. This game will live or die on it being a great multiplayer experience. Single player experience have been dying for a decade now, and very rarely take hold with large numbers of people.
Racing together with friends or strangers is where it's at.
Driveclub was a decent arcade racing game but it's matchmaking/multiplayer was bugged as hell, and people gave up trying to get a game going. It died because the online was simply not good enough at launch. (or well after launch).
GT5/6 had OK online given time, but still lots of problems
- bad load times
- most races were a mismatched mess of crap, usually on the nurburgring.
- relied heavily on host quality/setup.
They need to make sure that BY DEFAULT a multiplayer experience is at the very minimum a race on a circuit between cars of similar performance levels that I can quickly jump into within 1 minute. PGR on Xbox 1 managed this over a decade ago.
Have a complete/complex variety of car setups as an options is fine, but it's a massive downside if it's the default. That should be a rare/custom setup for a custom lobby.
Also I don't want to have to rely on host quality for a game. I want it to provide nice easy to manage options so most hosts 'can't get it wrong without really trying'. I remember sitting with GT5 for over an hour trying to find a good lobby to get a simple race going. This won't work in today's climate, people are impatient, and just want stuff to work.
That said, ideally, i should just hit a button to race. Maybe, at most, I can pick the performance bracket I want to race in. I should then be match-made against people of similar skill, again, within 1 minute. Lets streamline the dicking about needed to get racing. And of course this should gradually start to place people in leagues/divisions by rank/ability.
Lobbies/hosts I'm referring to above shouldn't be the default experience at all. That should be a sideshow.
So yeah, don't half-ass online, and I don't care if there are only 130 cars and literally no single player at launch it won't matter. And if you think trudging through boring offline races against AI is essential to the survival of the franchse, I couldn't disagree more. GT's 'career' was cool on the PS1/2, but not today. Even other games have long surpassed this with something that actually feels like a 'career' and not just a lifeless procession of icons to click on.
This is a fight for the survival of the franchise, and dreams of fleshed out single player are a waste of resources as far as I'm concerned.
"GT as a service" should be the aim.
And if they are smart, which i think they are being, they realise that gaming is all about mutiplayer/social now. This game will live or die on it being a great multiplayer experience. Single player experience have been dying for a decade now, and very rarely take hold with large numbers of people.
Driveclub was a decent arcade racing game but it's matchmaking/multiplayer was bugged as hell, and people gave up trying to get a game going. It died because the online was simply not good enough at launch. (or well after launch).
They need to make sure that BY DEFAULT a multiplayer experience is at the very minimum a race on a circuit between cars of similar performance levels that I can quickly jump into within 1 minute. PGR on Xbox 1 managed this over a decade ago.
So yeah, don't half-ass online, and I don't care if there are only 130 cars and literally no single player at launch it won't matter.
This is a fight for the survival of the franchise, and dreams of fleshed out single player are a waste of resources as far as I'm concerned.
Who told you GT6 was for the PS4
Kazunori YamauchiWe do have plans for PS4, but, of course, we have an order of things.
First we’ll be releasing the PS3 version for the PS3, which has a huge audience already, and we’ll be providing updates every month and DLCs every month.
Once players have played it all out and enjoyed themselves on the PS3, then the PS4 version might come out naturally around that time (laughs). Focus on enjoying the PS3 version.
Agreed, given the increasingly long wait times between titles. Personally, I'd be fine with spending what would end up amounting to almost double the original price of the game, over two or so years, to see it gradually improve. Numbered iterations aren't really needed in a game like GT, IMO.
Of course, I'm probably in the minority...
You can but I suspect you'd be setting yourself up for a fall.hahaha, maybe one of the reasons for the delay is to add a proper career mode.
Well, I can at least dream right?
Yup, probably. That's why I brought a parachute.You can but I suspect you'd be setting yourself up for a fall.![]()
Going by GT5 sales which we have actual figures for, that would be giving up $250,000,000 in sales in the first month in the hopes that by being cheap with DLC in the future you can convince 5-10 million people to buy $25-50 worth of DLC in the future, just to break even. Doesn't make much sense from a business standpoint to me. More likely that they base game would be full price to get that huge initial push and then DLC priced according to current industry standards of about $1/car with a freebie thrown in here and there to keep the base happy.Agreed, seemed to make sense actually quite a long time ago.
The main problem for me, with this model, is why they still have to be launched also as full-price titles.
I hope a racing game on console sometime soon will be brave enough to launch at, say, €20 for the base game, then price the DLC fairly across months/years.
Can't see it, but would be very popular, I think. GT would actually be a good title to attempt this, because it has the name recognition for people who wouldn't normally consider it, to be tempted with the lower initial price.
I agree with you that nailing the online is critical, and that it needs to be a clean and approachable experience for everyone. I think GTS is on the right track with this for sure. You talk a lot about private lobbies - I don't think average folks even consider approaching that swamp. Have you done any quick match? There lies endless opportunity. If PD can get that right with GTS, maybe there can be a big movement of casual folks coming online.So yeah, don't half-ass online, and I don't care if there are only 130 cars and literally no single player at launch it won't matter. And if you think trudging through boring offline races against AI is essential to the survival of the franchse, I couldn't disagree more. GT's 'career' was cool on the PS1/2, but not today. Even other games have long surpassed this with something that actually feels like a 'career' and not just a lifeless procession of icons to click on.
This is a fight for the survival of the franchise, and dreams of fleshed out single player are a waste of resources as far as I'm concerned.
Ugh.. the transmission whine. Always way too much in GT. Probably to drown out the dismal engine sounds... hopefully this will change now that they are something to be proud of?No?
What is your point to say that WD2 doesnt sound better than GT?