Gran Turismo Sport: General Discussion

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Full release notes:
The contents of the update are below:
1. In order to focus player access on the Daily Races, the Arcade Mode has been closed. We ask all players to participate in the server load testing.
2. The following updates have been made:
- Tire Model
- Slip Stream Parameters
- BoP Parameters
3. Multiple bug fixes
 
If it's true that Porsche is indeed confirmed then it really shouldn't be that big of a surprise since its taken so damn long for it to happen.

Exactly, and considering that AC players have been playing with Porsches on consoles for months now, and PCARS 2 is in the pipe as well, this really just seems like PD joining the party late and quite flaccidly -- as usual. Watch, they'll only have the Cayman 718, 911 GT3 RS, and the 918 Spyder, tops.
 
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Can we have a 911 Gr. B please?
 
"We want Porsche, give us any Porsche!"

Pody release Porsche :
"Pffff, every game have them, late as usual"

Guys really...

Well, it doesn't help that we've seen pretty much every sim racing game that is in the pipe right now add Porsche's to their roster, and give out more interesting models that really show off the racing history of the brand. Due to GTS's asinine unwritten rule of no cars before 2010, that pretty much means we aren't getting legends like the 917, 911 GT1, etc.

And again, the impact of this announcement is pretty much made null because everybody else has announced Porsche already. If this was 2013, sure, you could reasonably get excited. But now, in 2017, when the Porsche license is now essentially open season, and even small guys like SMS and Kunos Simulazioni are getting in on the fray, it's lost it's luster.
 
Well, it doesn't help that we've seen pretty much every sim racing game that is in the pipe right now add Porsche's to their roster, and give out more interesting models that really show off the racing history of the brand. Due to GTS's asinine unwritten rule of no cars before 2010, that pretty much means we aren't getting legends like the 917, 911 GT1, etc.

And again, the impact of this announcement is pretty much made null because everybody else has announced Porsche already. If this was 2013, sure, you could reasonably get excited. But now, in 2017, when the Porsche license is now essentially open season, and even small guys like SMS and Kunos Simulazioni are getting in on the fray, it's lost it's luster.

Many people here have awaited this day since GT1 or 2, this desire of Porsche being in a GT game has been in the pipe for a lot longer than a desire for them in Project Cars or Asseto Corsa, let us have our moment.
 
Update installed. Confirmed on Arcade mode being gone.

Servers are still not up so there is nothing to race yet
 
Watch, they'll only have the Cayman 718, 911 GT3 RS, and the 918 Spyder, tops.
Well, they'll probably have those, but I don't think that's it. We'll also probably see a Cayman Gr4 Race Car along with a 911 GT3 Cup for the Gr.3 class aswell. I've seen more GT3 cars revealed in the recent months such as the AMG GT3, BMW M6 GT3, and the Honda NSX Gr.3. So, I don't think it's unbelievable to expect a GT3 class car from Porsche.
 
Well, it doesn't help that we've seen pretty much every sim racing game that is in the pipe right now add Porsche's to their roster, and give out more interesting models that really show off the racing history of the brand. Due to GTS's asinine unwritten rule of no cars before 2010, that pretty much means we aren't getting legends like the 917, 911 GT1, etc.

And again, the impact of this announcement is pretty much made null because everybody else has announced Porsche already. If this was 2013, sure, you could reasonably get excited. But now, in 2017, when the Porsche license is now essentially open season, and even small guys like SMS and Kunos Simulazioni are getting in on the fray, it's lost it's luster.

Doesn't change the fact that this is the first time that Porsche are coming to a Gran Turismo game. GT fans have been waiting for this for 20 years, let them enjoy the moment. Jeez.
 
Excited to try the beta, but I have a feeling the car list will be underwhelming compared to other games.

Evora '09? I'm surprised they haven't added any newer, more current Evoras. There are other choices that are odd. Just a small bone to pick.
 
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Gotta love Tokyo, right? I don't think I will be doing any more racing there.
Ha, I never did a one. Mostly because I didn't get a chance, but also because I knew I'd take an SR hit. What I love most about that video is the official Playstation lead in/out.

I don't think the SR is related to the DR as I understand it. DR is how fast your race/lap times are. SR is how clean of a driver you are. Those that are >C get more accurate/realistic races where you can't just ghost through someone after wall riding to keep momentum. It really waters down the GT brand. But maybe getting into C class isn't that hard? I've only done maybe 10-12 races so far.
Right now, the top guys are all B's and C's. Eventually they'll get to S/A and B, then C will be made up mostly of average to good drivers who race a decent amount. There is more opportunity for crossover right now I think (D's and E's with fast qualifying times competing up with C's) while the number of total players is low.

I would expect that any server with a high SR requirement has no ghosting regardless of driver rating. Remains to be seen if PD will configure such servers, or always couple low DR with low SR requirement.

Has anyone been able to confirm whether leaving a race due to quitting or disconnect has any impact on SR or DR? I know DR would be impossible to tell unless you got demoted to a lower rank by quitting or something. I'd like it if clicking on the DR or SR in your profile gave you a rundown of your last 10 events and how they affected your score.

Well, they'll probably have those, but I don't think that's it. We'll also probably see a Cayman Gr4 Race Car along with a 911 GT3 Cup for the Gr.3 class aswell. I've seen more GT3 cars revealed in the recent months such as the AMG GT3, BMW M6 GT3, and the Honda NSX Gr.3. So, I don't think it's unbelievable to expect a GT3 class car from Porsche.
I'm very happy for Porsche to finally be in GT. There was a legitimate reason they weren't in the game before, but it's no longer the case so I did expect it. PD is on time here if anything. My excitement is tempered quite a bit though by how this game works. There are a few different reasons.

1. I get no sim value from GT Sport. Feels like an FR car is an FR car, an MR car is an MR car, etc. The feelings and sounds do little to differentiate a 4C Gr.3 from an RS 01 Gr.3 from a McLaren 650S Gr.3 or whatever. Mustang, SLS, Corvette? I'd never know, I use bumper cam. The different makes/models might as well be different liveries. Even the tuning settings seem to be same across the board for a class of car - how could that be? And if a car had any sort of character to begin with, you'll have tuned it completely away in the quest for speed. So what's it matter what the car is called, or what it looks like? The signature tail-heavy, oversteery nature of the 911 will be neutralized in a flash by tuning.

2. Because of this, I feel no reason to drive around just for the sake of driving. All that will matter is whether the car is competitive. And to use it for cool pictures.

I think there is less uniqueness between cars in GTS than there was in GT6, to be honest. Why would that be? I think it comes back to the purpose of GT Sport. They're doing everything they can to facilitate close competition. Big differences in the way cars work and drive could lead to physics or tuning exploits, or at least PD having to manually adjust BoP more often.
 
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I hope you guys like my paintsmanship. I did this on my phone.

You see where the yellow line goes, how it comes around and you can see the large stands in the distance?

Left of the 911 GT3, there appears to be a pit lane maybe?

Circled in red is water in the infield?

Is it High-Speed Ring?
 
Ha, I never did a one. Mostly because I didn't get a chance, but also because I knew I'd take an SR hit. What I love most about that video is the official Playstation lead in/out.


Right now, the top guys are all B's and C's. Eventually they'll get to S/A and B, then C will be made up mostly of average to good drivers who race a decent amount. There is more opportunity for crossover right now I think (D's and E's with fast qualifying times competing up with C's) while the number of total players is low.

I would expect that any server with a high SR requirement has no ghosting regardless of driver rating. Remains to be seen if PD will configure such servers, or always couple low DR with low SR requirement.

Has anyone been able to confirm whether leaving a race due to quitting or disconnect has any impact on SR or DR? I know DR would be impossible to tell unless you got demoted to a lower rank by quitting or something. I'd like it if clicking on the DR or SR in your profile gave you a rundown of your last 10 events and how they affected your score.


I'm very happy for Porsche to finally be in GT. There was a legitimate reason they weren't in the game before, but it's no longer the case so I did expect it. PD is on time here if anything. My excitement is tempered quite a bit though by how this game works. There are a few different reasons.

1. I get no sim value from GT Sport. Feels like an FR car is an FR car, an MR car is an MR car, etc. The feelings and sounds do little to differentiate a 4C Gr.3 from an RS 01 Gr.3 from a McLaren 650S Gr.3 or whatever. Mustang, SLS, Corvette? I'd never know, I use bumper cam. The different makes/models might as well be different liveries. Even the tuning settings seem to be same across the board for a class of car - how could that be? And if a car had any sort of character to begin with, you'll have tuned it completely away in the quest for speed. So what's it matter what the car is called, or what it looks like? The signature tail-heavy, oversteery nature of the 911 will be neutralized in a flash by tuning.

2. Because of this, I feel no reason to drive around just for the sake of driving. All that will matter is whether the car is competitive. And to use it for cool pictures.

I think there is less uniqueness between cars in GTS than there was in GT6, to be honest. Why would that be? I think it comes back to the purpose of GT Sport. They're doing everything they can to facilitate close competition. Big differences in the way cars work and drive could lead to physics or tuning exploits, or at least PD having to manually adjust BoP more often.
Yeah one time I got disconnected, and finished last and my driver rating went down to D again and I had just been upgraded to C...
 
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I hope you guys like my paintsmanship. I did this on my phone.

You see where the yellow line goes, how it comes around and you can see the large stands in the distance?

Left of the 911 GT3, there appears to be a pit lane maybe?

Circled in red is water in the infield?

Is it High-Speed Ring?
HSR will definitely be in the game, and this could easily be it.
 
View attachment 640471

I hope you guys like my paintsmanship. I did this on my phone.

You see where the yellow line goes, how it comes around and you can see the large stands in the distance?

Left of the 911 GT3, there appears to be a pit lane maybe?

Circled in red is water in the infield?

Is it High-Speed Ring?
Bit to low banking for HSR.
 
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