Gran Turismo Toyota Gazoo Racing GT Cup Returns for 2023 Season

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This probably has been covered before, but can somebody tell me why PD decided to award points based on the final race you finished instead of your highest-placed finish? It just encourages people who can probably never win to guess how high they can finish in the race (which sometimes isn’t correct) and then quit playing it once they achieve the finish, instead of continuously trying to score a better finish.
Because if it accepted a person’s highest score, then the people who have so much free time that they can afford to run every slot would always have the most points and it wouldn’t be fair to those that can only race one or two slots, for example. I heard it used to be that way early in GT Sport’s FIA seasons but they quickly changed it to the current system for this reason.
 
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Because if it accepted a person’s highest score, then the people who have so much free time that they can afford to run every slot would always have the most points and it wouldn’t be fair to those that can only race one or two slots, for example. I heard it used to be that way early in GT Sport’s FIA seasons but they quickly changed it to the current system for this reason.
But doesn’t a high-placed finish always indicate some sort of good performance in Sport mode? Like those who had the time to try all sessions and got an excellent finish at one would seem to deserve more points than those who could place 4/5th consistently. I kind of understand now that this system is intended to reward the players who can consistently finish well, but wouldn’t the effects be negated by those one-to-two time well-performers who just quit the subsequent races (before crossing the finish line, so to say) when it becomes apparent it isn’t going their way? Correct me if I’m wrong, but won’t the system just register their best result from not quitting that race but not give them zero points in the next time they enter the race or in the rankings (if there are no more time slots remaining)?
 
But doesn’t a high-placed finish always indicate some sort of good performance in Sport mode? Like those who had the time to try all sessions and got an excellent finish at one would seem to deserve more points than those who could place 4/5th consistently. I kind of understand now that this system is intended to reward the players who can consistently finish well, but wouldn’t the effects be negated by those one-to-two time well-performers who just quit the subsequent races (before crossing the finish line, so to say) when it becomes apparent it isn’t going their way? Correct me if I’m wrong, but won’t the system just register their best result from not quitting that race but not give them zero points in the next time they enter the race or in the rankings (if there are no more time slots remaining)?
No, if you quit a race the game will put you down as finishing last (with only people who quit before you finishing behind you).

As soon as you enter a new timeslot, any previous races you've completd become void.
 
Do we know all the information for the last race? Other than the Corolla at RA of course...

Tires, laps, tire wear, fuel multiplier, etc.

ETA - Seeing that GT2 is 1x fuel, 1x tire for 12 laps on SH tires. Wow... glorified daily C.
Not sure about GT1 yet
 
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This probably has been covered before, but can somebody tell me why PD decided to award points based on the final race you finished instead of your highest-placed finish? It just encourages people who can probably never win to guess how high they can finish in the race (which sometimes isn’t correct) and then quit playing it once they achieve the finish, instead of continuously trying to score a better finish. I finished 8th in my first run, and tried to improve from there on, but I got divebombed, which, along with a few driver mistakes, caused me to end up dead last (I think 12th?). Unsatisfied, I then tried again at the final time slot, using the RX-Vision instead of the Supra. This time I qualified 3rd, even running as high as 2nd in the early part of the race, but again, the driver behind started reeling in, and the Mazda’s unpredictability with low grip meant that I spun in a place where it’s barely two cars’ width, and it took me probably 20 seconds just to have the car facing in the right direction again. I tried to catch back up just to scavenge a few places from my dead last, but somebody I was trying to overtake swerved left and right (not sure if due to losing control or what) and hit me. While I wasn’t impacted a lot, there was no penalty on the guy swerving. But what upsets me the most is seeing the guy who divebombed me finish 3rd. 🤬

Anyway, rant aside, it’s quite baffling to see why they would only award points on your last finish. You’d assume that they wanted more players to play continuously, especially with the ranking credits rewards in a game that is stingy in terms of its payouts vs. car prices. Another problem is how a player who finished close to a lap behind (~1:30) and got slapped with a 1-minute penalty for not observing tyre rules can still finish ahead of a player who was a little above a lap behind, but that’s less of a nuisance considering it’s a less easy fix. :indiff:
I've read (and others with a longer history can chime in) that this keeps someone who, say, wins their first race and then enters later races just to create mayhem among their rivals, keeping them from achieving good scores. Never underestimate the ability for some people to be pigs.
 
Edit edit: Just checked and it should be enough to move me into Gold Main Area, Silver National and Silver Regional (already Gold Secondary Area), from just two races...
All of these things are true.

Bizarrely there's so few people in my Secondary area that the person in second is only getting the Bronze prize...

I don't think I can reach Gold for National/Regional with only points in three rounds. My average score is high enough, but even with a handful of the people who've got four rounds completed (but not yet scored) included I'd need to score 150% of my average to outscore them for National. Maybe, with a really good race finish or a good enough one if I can get into A - but then I've only done two races in two months and they were both Toyota GR GT Cup rounds.
 
All of these things are true.

Bizarrely there's so few people in my Secondary area that the person in second is only getting the Bronze prize...

I don't think I can reach Gold for National/Regional with only points in three rounds. My average score is high enough, but even with a handful of the people who've got four rounds completed (but not yet scored) included I'd need to score 150% of my average to outscore them for National. Maybe, with a really good race finish or a good enough one if I can get into A - but then I've only done two races in two months and they were both Toyota GR GT Cupe rounds.
My secondary area/county is the same, 2nd place (me) is Bronze, even though it's quite a large area. And I'm pretty sure 1st place is a World Tour driver, so...
 
I've read (and others with a longer history can chime in) that this keeps someone who, say, wins their first race and then enters later races just to create mayhem among their rivals, keeping them from achieving good scores. Never underestimate the ability for some people to be pigs.
Thats a great point that I never even thought of before.
 
Oof, yesterday's race was brutal. I really am not good at that track. It taking place the same day that I return from a trip didn't help, was only able to do 2 of the time slots. Came in 9th both times, in 100% different ways hahaha. Oh well.
 
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Do we know all the information for the last race? Other than the Corolla at RA of course...

Tires, laps, tire wear, fuel multiplier, etc.

ETA - Seeing that GT2 is 1x fuel, 1x tire for 12 laps on SH tires. Wow... glorified daily C.
Not sure about GT1 yet
Quoting myself because I looked at the GT1 on my PS5, and it seems to be the same as the GT2. Same laps, same tires, same wear/fuel multipliers, etc. Seems odd but not much from PD surprises me anymore.



Drove the Corolla around RA and it's not too bad.

Thing is, I don't understand PD's logic with AWD road cars... heaven forbid you get into a slide and try and correct the car just immediately snap oversteers the opposite direction WITHOUT throttle! I have an AWD car that I've driven hard in the dry, rain, and snow... if you're not on the gas the front tires aren't pulling and the car doesn't snap oversteer in the other direction regardless on how much you correct. If you're not on the gas, then an AWD slides just like a 2WD car. If you do slam on the gas, yes, the front tires will pull you around similar to a FWD car but in this game these AWD cars snap oversteer you to death regardless.
 
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The GR Corolla is a really fun car to drive, first impressions were that it loses the rear pretty easily, but started getting a feel for it and can keep it under control quite well. Just have to be conscious of the clutch emulation on downshifts while cornering/heavily braking. Gave it maybe 10-15 laps yesterday, got a 1:35.8 IIRC, lot of time to still gain obviously. Looking forward to this race.

Can't wait to be able to use this car freely. I'm a bit biased though because I was really considering buying a GR Corolla, but went with a different choice last year (much less fun, but more practical). I didn't have a chance to buy one though because of low supply and I refuse to pay thousands above MSRP to buy it secondhand. Driving this in VR is a good enough tradeoff haha.
 
Does anyone know how many rounds will end up counting in this series? The site shows there are seven races on the calendar with three counting (thus far, but maybe four after Sunday?)... but the article on page one says there will be eight rounds total.

I guess it's a double question:

-How many rounds will there be, seven or eight?
-Any way to know how many races' points will count if there are seven races (three or four) or eight races (three or four)?
 
Does anyone know how many rounds will end up counting in this series? The site shows there are seven races on the calendar with three counting (thus far, but maybe four after Sunday?)... but the article on page one says there will be eight rounds total.

I guess it's a double question:

-How many rounds will there be, seven or eight?
-Any way to know how many races' points will count if there are seven races (three or four) or eight races (three or four)?
The eighth round is the live final. And best four.

Edit: Actually I should fill in the TBAs now that they have been A and are no longer TB.
 
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I'm currently lapping between 1:35-1:36 which it seems a lot of others are too.

This car reminds me of the GR Yaris handling.

Whether I attack the corners with a little slide to rotate the car or I go smooth and trail brake I am still within the same times.

Looking at my best sectors I would be at 1:35.286 so still a long way off the top times.

I've done around 20 laps in total with around 8 picking up penalties so I guess it's just a case of getting used to the car, the track limits and a lot of practice.

Not going to have any time until Saturday to practice now so the race should be interesting, I did enjoy the Yaris race once I got used to the handling so hopefully this will work out the same.
 

All the players who enter this round will receive a free GR010 Hybrid, complete with the 2023 livery for use in-game!
Does this mean we get another one if we've already received that gift from an earlier round?
 


Does this mean we get another one if we've already received that gift from an earlier round?
I'd say this applies to the whole championship, not the specific race
 
I agree with some of you all; I don't like this car one bit. I think a niche few will be super fast in it, but you have to get the trail-braking perfect (which is still a very small percentage of braking while beginning to turn). Too much and the car understeers into snap oversteer with likely an off; too little and you're losing tenths every turn. The latter is much safer, at least.

My best time thus far is a 33.9, but I've not been able to touch that since I set it. If I can be in the 34.5s I am pretty happy with that, but the car is so inconsistent one lap will be low 34s and the next is low 35s. This car is more a chore than fun.

This Sunday's race is going to be a struggle. Especially when you throw in the fact it's a standing start. Surviving lap one will be the first hurdle. I can only hope others are having a hard time with it as well and it'll all even out during the race. I've yet to do a practice session for 12 laps (race length) without crashing lol. Going to have to play it a bit safer come race day.
 
I'm expecting it to be carnage tbh. Weight transfer is exaggerated as usual + RA being one of the most unforgiving tracks + lots of track limit penalties in the essess + grid start + new car so no one could practice with fuel load/tyre wear.

My strat is just to stay on track and watch as everyone else falls off the road :lol:

I still wish we got the GR Supra Gr.2 this season. Maybe next year...
 


Does this mean we get another one if we've already received that gift from an earlier round?
If you already received the GR010 earlier this season, probably not.
 
I agree with some of you all; I don't like this car one bit. I think a niche few will be super fast in it, but you have to get the trail-braking perfect (which is still a very small percentage of braking while beginning to turn). Too much and the car understeers into snap oversteer with likely an off; too little and you're losing tenths every turn. The latter is much safer, at least.

My best time thus far is a 33.9, but I've not been able to touch that since I set it. If I can be in the 34.5s I am pretty happy with that, but the car is so inconsistent one lap will be low 34s and the next is low 35s. This car is more a chore than fun.

This Sunday's race is going to be a struggle. Especially when you throw in the fact it's a standing start. Surviving lap one will be the first hurdle. I can only hope others are having a hard time with it as well and it'll all even out during the race. I've yet to do a practice session for 12 laps (race length) without crashing lol. Going to have to play it a bit safer come race day.
I'm in a similar boat, but I'm in GT3 and a couple seconds slower than your times. I'm ok with keeping the car stable and controllable, but not while also being quick. Typically in my friends list, which I've added other top players in my region and league, I have the fastest time. I'm still about 1 second off the two ahead of me.

I suppose my strategy is just practice a standing start into T1 and hope I get a good qualifying lap, then just keep things tidy. GT3 should be a no-stop race at 12 laps. I don't think I'll try to defend too hard Sunday.

Luckily, I'm already in a good position to at least earn the maximum amount of credits after this series ends. But it would still be nice to get a good result and improve my standing a place or two. I'm currently 4th place in my region, first is a mathematical impossibility, but 2nd is on the table.
 
I agree with some of you all; I don't like this car one bit. I think a niche few will be super fast in it, but you have to get the trail-braking perfect (which is still a very small percentage of braking while beginning to turn). Too much and the car understeers into snap oversteer with likely an off; too little and you're losing tenths every turn. The latter is much safer, at least.

My best time thus far is a 33.9, but I've not been able to touch that since I set it. If I can be in the 34.5s I am pretty happy with that, but the car is so inconsistent one lap will be low 34s and the next is low 35s. This car is more a chore than fun.

This Sunday's race is going to be a struggle. Especially when you throw in the fact it's a standing start. Surviving lap one will be the first hurdle. I can only hope others are having a hard time with it as well and it'll all even out during the race. I've yet to do a practice session for 12 laps (race length) without crashing lol. Going to have to play it a bit safer come race day.
Yeah GR Corolla is a bit tricky to drive, due to GT7 weight transfer physics, combined with the more rear biased differential, just like GR Yaris. But I did find the GR Corolla more stable than GR Yaris due to the extra weight. Sunday can be carnage for sure, I'd be careful with trying to pass from the outside, due to the driving style of this car 😅.
 
My strat is just to stay on track and watch as everyone else falls off the road :lol:
Me too. I did some practice laps today which were literally my first sport mode laps. I couldn't get clean ones under 1:50, lol. Still, I think I will enter tomorrow and just try to finish as clean as possible no matter the time or position.
 
After a couple days practicing a race length (12 for GT3) I've improved my time a good amount. A 1:34.6xx, not tremendous, but I'm at least a couple hundredths off my friend at the top of my list currently. About 1 second off my region leader's pace.

The amount of risk involved to push in a hot lap is unsustainable over multiple laps for me. I'm curious how many laps it takes the top players to set their laps or how many penalties they receive.

I feel relatively comfortable and I think I can put in a clean race if I'm not pushing too hard. Track limits are a pain here and if you manage to stay within the limits, you should be in a good position to take advantage when others go off and also serve penalties.

Good luck to everyone tomorrow!
 
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