Gran Turismo World Series (Manufacturers Cup 2025 Exhibition Season 2: 12 Mar - 22 Mar)

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Didn’t have much time to practice for this but Brands Hatch was a solid track for me in GT Sport so I was still somewhat cofident. I watched a Top 10 replay to get a rough idea of the braking points in the new RS 5 DTM and did a quick warm up.

I managed to qualified P5. My stints were 12S/11M. A few drivers had a bad start, including someone who jumped the gun. So I gained 2nd place immediately and held it for a while. Unfortunately, a couple of minor mistakes on my part caused me to lose it. And on my Medium stint, I lost 3rd to who I assume was on Softs judging by how quickly they caught up to me. I forgot to save the replay so I couldn’t confirm this. The rest of the race went by without anymore incidents however, and I finished 4th for 171 points. Can’t complain.

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That was the same race as me. Who is this gallop_41 guy that trounced us from the back of the grid?
 
I just watched the replay of mine and @C_Raccoon23 race and for anyone racing the last slot in the Americas, maybe this info could be of use to you.

His fastest lap was six tenths faster than my pole so he was obviously by far the fastest in the lobby. He started on mediums and went from last to 5th in half a lap after the start thanks to some intelligent driving and some luck. He pit for softs on lap 1 and again for softs on lap 11. He destroyed us. Seems he had a good strategy, lots of luck, and boatloads of talent.
 
That was a not so good showing from me. I'm not a huge fan of B.H. to begin with, and with a new car and new physics I just couldn't get comfortable that quickly on it. Oh well, on to the next.
 
yea the DRS isn't that effective , i noticed that even in my grind races DRS barely does anything
The only time I noticed a big difference was in overtakes. I suspect that is intentional on PD’s part. It’s not a boost, just a reduction of drag. I also found my car incredibly unstable when I had it open, so I think that accounts for the number of people flying off the track at various turns last night. Open DRS=no downforce=no rear grip.

I finished P5 last night mainly, I’m pretty sure, because I forgot to use DRS most of the race!
 
I did some initial testing of top end only, using the Supra, Merc, Jag, Stang, and GT LM II. Took them all to the Nord and Daytona RC. My intent wasn't to set times but just see what they're hitting on the straights with the new BoP.

On Nord the three straights are at the beginning after the double rights, towards the middle (not really straight but you're WoT for the whole thing) just before the first carousal, and the last one. At Tona RC just the two before and after the bus-stop.

I gave each car one good run.
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Two things that surprised me: first was how off the Merc was; second was how fast the Ford GT LM II was. GT LM basically on par with the Supra.

The unfortunate part was getting through the Nords with these new physics was a chore. It wasn't really even fun as I felt like I was fighting the car basically the whole way. Walking [driving?] on eggshells hoping it doesn't plow into the wall or spin out with the lightest touch of gas. The understeer is insane, and the snap oversteer isn't much better. Literally 25% throttle was enough to spin the cars coming out of T4 at Daytona. I feel like TC1 is the new TC0.

The LM II was the only car I made it through the Nords without spinning. That car is quite planted. Try it out guys.
 
I did some initial testing of top end only, using the Supra, Merc, Jag, Stang, and GT LM II. Took them all to the Nord and Daytona RC. My intent wasn't to set times but just see what they're hitting on the straights with the new BoP.

On Nord the three straights are at the beginning after the double rights, towards the middle (not really straight but you're WoT for the whole thing) just before the first carousal, and the last one. At Tona RC just the two before and after the bus-stop.

I gave each car one good run.
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Two things that surprised me: first was how off the Merc was; second was how fast the Ford GT LM II was. GT LM basically on par with the Supra.

The unfortunate part was getting through the Nords with these new physics was a chore. It wasn't really even fun as I felt like I was fighting the car basically the whole way. Walking [driving?] on eggshells hoping it doesn't plow into the wall or spin out with the lightest touch of gas. The understeer is insane, and the snap oversteer isn't much better. Literally 25% throttle was enough to spin the cars coming out of T4 at Daytona. I feel like TC1 is the new TC0.

The LM II was the only car I made it through the Nords without spinning. That car is quite planted. Try it out guys.
Dear god, those numbers! Looks like a Supra fest. I hope they readjust BoP based on this nonsense, probably after the series though.

Edit: it seems like a bad look when a manufacturers series is a one make race!!
 
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Did only one run, new physics and tyre wear to figure out, all promising but didnt Start well cause i couldnt do a decent qualification so Started P10.

Started on softs cause didnt know how long they would last so i followed the tyre wear, maybe get some positions in the faster compound while maybe save tyres while people get into speed.

Didnt help that in Pitstop i forgot to cancel refueling which probably costed me couple positions, 2nd stint i was on mediums but was eagger to defend my position if i had the chance, but couldnt get the overcut cause of that mistake.
Got 3 positions overall did couple small mistakes but was able to avoid incidents, also when resting my finger from the overtake Button i pressed options Button by mistake in the late 2nd stint, VR complicate things...so i simply missed the button.

Was a fun race, avoided incidents and extra fun in PSVR2.
Recorded the Gameplay so i leave the link.
 
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My poor Merc - what have they done to you ?!

I'd seen the nerfed stats before I signed up so no excuses, but in practice it's a bit more than I was expecting. Still think I can have some good races especially with the new physics, it still seems very stable so I should be able to make up places just by consistency.
 
I did some initial testing of top end only, using the Supra, Merc, Jag, Stang, and GT LM II. Took them all to the Nord and Daytona RC. My intent wasn't to set times but just see what they're hitting on the straights with the new BoP.

On Nord the three straights are at the beginning after the double rights, towards the middle (not really straight but you're WoT for the whole thing) just before the first carousal, and the last one. At Tona RC just the two before and after the bus-stop.

I gave each car one good run.
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Two things that surprised me: first was how off the Merc was; second was how fast the Ford GT LM II was. GT LM basically on par with the Supra.

The unfortunate part was getting through the Nords with these new physics was a chore. It wasn't really even fun as I felt like I was fighting the car basically the whole way. Walking [driving?] on eggshells hoping it doesn't plow into the wall or spin out with the lightest touch of gas. The understeer is insane, and the snap oversteer isn't much better. Literally 25% throttle was enough to spin the cars coming out of T4 at Daytona. I feel like TC1 is the new TC0.

The LM II was the only car I made it through the Nords without spinning. That car is quite planted. Try it out guys.
Quick question: which Ford GT and which Merc models did you test?
 
Quick question: which Ford GT and which Merc models did you test?
It was the 2016 AMG (blue one) and the Ford GT LM Spec II Race Car (white one).

The LM Spec II Race Car is one of about seven Gr3 cars that did not get a power decrease in this new BoP update, rather only a weight increase (+90kg). That being said, the LM Test car got a power buff + a weight increase (+111). Might be worth testing that one out as well, which I will try later today.

My poor Merc - what have they done to you ?!

I'd seen the nerfed stats before I signed up so no excuses, but in practice it's a bit more than I was expecting. Still think I can have some good races especially with the new physics, it still seems very stable so I should be able to make up places just by consistency.
I was so close to picking Merc on my 2 account but might go Jag or Ford (the 1 account basically has to be Toyota, or maybe Ford). I had already decided before the new BoP. That Merc just struggles at top end and just dies at the mid 160s. It is pretty stable, but it will get murdered at Nurb and Tona on the straights.
 
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It was the 2016 AMG (blue one) and the Ford GT LM Spec II Race Car (white one).

The LM Spec II Race Car is one of about seven Gr3 cars that did not get a power decrease in this new BoP update, rather only a weight increase (+90kg). That being said, the LM Test car got a power buff + a weight increase (+111). Might be worth testing that one out as well, which I will try later today.


I was so close to picking Merc on my 2 account but might go Jag or Ford (the 1 account basically has to be Toyota, or maybe Ford). I had already decided before the new BoP. That Merc just struggles at top end and just dies at the mid 160s. It is pretty stable, but it will get murdered at Nurb and Tona on the straights.
The SLS looks like it got a decent power buff. Maybe it’s gonna be like the Nismo ‘18 and replace the AMG? I have t tested much out yet. More on this on the Daily thread.
 
The SLS looks like it got a decent power buff. Maybe it’s gonna be like the Nismo ‘18 and replace the AMG? I have t tested much out yet. More on this on the Daily thread.
The SLS didn't get a power buff, it got Nerfed as well. That being said, it does now have more PP points (ahuhuhuhu) than the GT3... albeit by less than 1.5 points.
 

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The SLS didn't get a power buff, it got Nerfed as well. That being said, it does now have more PP points (ahuhuhuhu) than the GT3... albeit by less than 1.5 points.
Whoops! I was doing it from memory. I guess compared to the AMG it got less of a hit, so I was remembering it as coming out ahead. So I guess it was "boosted" in a relative sense. Or nonsense, as the case may be. Anyway, that weight is a deal breaker.
 
Looking like an Atenza one make next time out at RBR, maybe a few Veyrons mixed in.

May give it a miss.
I won’t be driving the Atenza. It might be the single worst car to drive in the game. Unless you’re the kind of driver that likes extreme understeer and joyless response of course.

My fastest lap so far has been in the Huracan and I find it much more enjoyable to drive, so I’ll probably go with it instead and laugh maniacally as I pass all the Mazdas serving their track limits penalties because they wouldn’t turn.
 
I won’t be driving the Atenza. It might be the single worst car to drive in the game. Unless you’re the kind of driver that likes extreme understeer and joyless response of course.

My fastest lap so far has been in the Huracan and I find it much more enjoyable to drive, so I’ll probably go with it instead and laugh maniacally as I pass all the Mazdas serving their track limits penalties because they wouldn’t turn.
If i decide to compete I will use the Atenza, no matter how awfull it is.
Why? because I made this livery recently (based in the WTCC Cruze in Portimao 2012)
and just want to enter a race and pretend to be Michel Viallant for once!

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I spent my first hours with the new physics this past week by running both the DTM Nations race at Brand's Hatch as well as a Gr.1 league race at Fuji with 3x tire wear and 3x fuel usage. Had a great Nations race, grabbing pole and only losing the win due to an alien with a DR way below his ability. Had a great league race, too, with a solid result in a very outclassed car.

For both races I used ABS Weak which I have never done before. It feels like the pre-1.31 Default setting and I didn't perceive any additional problem with tire wear despite the odd lockup here and there. The post-1.31 ABS Default is absolutely undriveable for me, not to mention extremely "boring" (no feel at all under braking).

I'm sticking with ABS Weak until I see any empirical evidence that it is harming my races. Has anyone else messed around with this?
 

Here we go, GTWS season 2023 starting 👀🏁 This is the feeder series but anyways. New track for round 7 would be cool 🤞
 
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So I've officially picked Toyota on the #1 account and Ford on the #2 account. Haven't picked anything for the #3 yet.

I did a couple test runs in addition to the spreadsheet above.

The Ford GT LM Spec car went: 170, 159, 174 at Nord and 168, 172 at Tona.
The Ford GT 18 went: 169, 156, 174 at Nord and 163, 172 at Tona

Those Ford GT LM cars are quick. What I don't know know about is tire wear and such, but I do know the Supra is not good on tires so there's a chance.
 
So I've officially picked Toyota on the #1 account and Ford on the #2 account. Haven't picked anything for the #3 yet.

I did a couple test runs in addition to the spreadsheet above.

The Ford GT LM Spec car went: 170, 159, 174 at Nord and 168, 172 at Tona.
The Ford GT 18 went: 169, 156, 174 at Nord and 163, 172 at Tona

Those Ford GT LM cars are quick. What I don't know know about is tire wear and such, but I do know the Supra is not good on tires so there's a chance.
I have done a full race practice at Daytona with the GT LM, Corvette and Supra. GT LM will probably be fastest for qualifying, however, it is a thirsty car and you need to short shift very early in the actual race. Rolled over the line with an empty tank, shifting no later than half way, so requires a lot more concentration keeping an eye on the gauge than the others. I surprisingly ended up with exact same finishing time to the second with both Ford and Supra.

Having said that, i've just finished a race in the Mustang and went 5 seconds faster than all of them. No worries about fuel at all! Feels great round there.

I have actually painstakingly given every Gr.3 car a few laps on Daytona (except McLaren F1 which i don't own). :lol:
 
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They are/were on my shortlist for the full season! Hopefully just a one circuit issue - BoP figures don't look too bad.
Actually ignore that comment. Have just deleted it from my post. Just did a few laps in the Genesis again and its fairly decent. :lol:
 
I have done a full race practice at Daytona with the GT LM, Corvette and Supra. GT LM will probably be fastest for qualifying, however, it is a thirsty car and you need to short shift very early in the actual race. Rolled over the line with an empty tank, shifting no later than half way, so requires a lot more concentration keeping an eye on the gauge than the others. I surprisingly ended up with exact same finishing time to the second with both Ford and Supra.

Having said that, i've just finished a race in the Mustang and went 5 seconds faster than all of them. No worries about fuel at all! Feels great round there.

I have actually painstakingly given every Gr.3 car a few laps on Daytona (except McLaren F1 which i don't own). :lol:
I did full race sims in the 'Stang and Corvette too, and the Mustang was about 4s quicker over the course of a race, which when spread over 21 laps isn't that much of a gap. I had to do slight fuel saving for about 8-9 laps to make it to the end with both of them (using 3rd gear instead of 2nd out of the exit of the horseshoes, and shifting slightly before the optimal point on the straights). With race times being that close, I'm not sure which one I'm going to go with. I won the last Manufacturer's race at Daytona RC in the Corvette, but only had to deal with 1 Supra, which took itself out early in the race; but in the last Daily combo using Gr.3 at Daytona RC, I was getting mauled at by Supras on the straights and was unable to re-pass in the infield. So I guess my choice will be based on how many Supras I think will show up.
The SLS didn't get a power buff, it got Nerfed as well. That being said, it does now have more PP points (ahuhuhuhu) than the GT3... albeit by less than 1.5 points.
I noticed the Supra has one of the best Power/Weight ratios, while the Corvette has one of the worst. The Mustang is between them. That seems to correlate between their relative paces right now.
 
I did full race sims in the 'Stang and Corvette too, and the Mustang was about 4s quicker over the course of a race, which when spread over 21 laps isn't that much of a gap. I had to do slight fuel saving for about 8-9 laps to make it to the end with both of them (using 3rd gear instead of 2nd out of the exit of the horseshoes, and shifting slightly before the optimal point on the straights). With race times being that close, I'm not sure which one I'm going to go with. I won the last Manufacturer's race at Daytona RC in the Corvette, but only had to deal with 1 Supra, which took itself out early in the race; but in the last Daily combo using Gr.3 at Daytona RC, I was getting mauled at by Supras on the straights and was unable to re-pass in the infield. So I guess my choice will be based on how many Supras I think will show up.

I noticed the Supra has one of the best Power/Weight ratios, while the Corvette has one of the worst. The Mustang is between them. That seems to correlate between their relative paces right now.
Yeah i ran another test with Corvette last night and was 3 seconds off my Mustang time. Pretty good in terms of BoP really that they are all that close. Out of 5 cars i've tried, all finishing times were within 5 seconds. Mustang i was shifting around the 85-90% mark with minimal 2nd gear and Corvette around 55-60%. Have to remind myself that if you're in someones slip your revs are going to increase burning more fuel, so probably have to end up playing with the maps when in draft. Think that rules the GT LMII out for me as its headache enough fuel saving. Can't decide which to sign for. Oh an Jag is a very good shout and is on my maybe list too. Finished with same time as Corvette but again, need to shift before optimum to make it home. If you're worried about fuel saving, the Lexus had 3 laps of fuel left at the end with me revving it out. Its just not as quick as the others.
 
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Ugh, fuel saving.
Luckily at my level it's probably a 1-stopper - the AMG is a bit thirsty.
 
Ugh, fuel saving.
Luckily at my level it's probably a 1-stopper - the AMG is a bit thirsty.
You'll only need to save a lap of fuel, maybe less, over the course of 21 laps. Won't be worth pitting at any level. Plus at your level you'll probably already be saving fuel just driving how you normally do.
 
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