GT Academy National Finals - Venues, Dates, Drivers & Discussion Thread

[rmk700]

I'm with you Jack. Defensive driving is extremly important. You have to protect yourself and altering your line allowing for room for others is a huge part of defensive driving.

 

[.pixr]

I've just received word that the Dutch final (which will be held tomorrow, 11th of Feb.) is gonna be decided through 4 player LAN races only. So no first pre qualify TT anymore, which was the general assumption.

Also the competitors will be divided into 5 groups of 4. The best player in every group (point system of 3 races) is gonna advance to the next round in the final. Including 3 second placed guys in the group (determent fastest lap in last race).

Quite a surprise for me and I do like the idea of finally racing against other guys in GT5

Edit : concerning above post about defensive line/ideal line. A little quote form the dutch rules (received them an hour ago)
"Racing line is not allowed. We're looking for the best driver so we want to make it as realistic as possible"

 

[CodeRedR51]

Edit : concerning above post about defensive line/ideal line. A little quote form the dutch rules (received them an hour ago)
"Racing line is not allowed. We're looking for the best driver so we want to make it as realistic as possible"

I don't understand why all of the finals so far have had different rules. Shouldn't they all be the same?

 

[Hunter_4_6]

Hello to all

If you have any question about the final, please ask me, I'll try to answer with complete sincerity

greetings

 

[IsmokeGT]

First, I don't think there are any bad feelings toward the guy that hit MAY, mistakes happen, but they need to be righted.

Second, blaming that on the racing line be turned on is the most ridiculous thing I've read yet. I think you might be mistaken MAY for an noob. The guy is a great driver, and a better racer. When guys take fast, correct lines, even though they might be on the blue line doesn't mean they are following it. That point holds no water.

Third, it is really annoying hearing people talk about other crashes MAY was involved in, and how some go out of their way to say it was his fault. What is wrong with you people?!

I really hate side seat drivers in real life, but I realise I hate them even more on the innerwebs. I wouldn't wish the misfortune MAY faced on anyone, even on those who have empathy for him like that of a mortician.

 

[MeAgainstYou]

i never used the line... but others guys on the final did.. no probs at all lets just face it.. there's no turning back now... it's done! lets support Hunter_4_6 (Filipe Barreto) now who has no fault on this, he just did his race. he's the winner and a talented driver too

 

[Gaviao_pt]

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Firstly, I think the driving line is mainly at fault for the Indy crash. I've said it before, the driving line does NOT work in a race. Drivers defend the line and not the corner, if they are on the line they believe they have right of way and they tend to follow the line instead of taking their own and leaving space. I'm not saying the Indy crash was 100% MAY's fault but if you look at the line he takes, he takes the ideal and perfect line. This is something you can very rarley do at the first corner of a race. Somebody of MAY's expirence in many online races and competitions should know this.
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When guys take fast, correct lines, even though they might be on the blue line doesn't mean they are following it. That point holds no water.
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This is just to let you know that May wasn't using the race line. The driver from the video was.

edit: lol he already answered

i never used the line... but others guys on the final did.. no probs at all lets just face it.. there's no turning back now... it's done! lets support Hunter_4_6 (Filipe Barreto) now who has no fault on this, he just did his race. he's the winner and a talented driver too

👍 100% agree. Great attitude!

 

[Jack]

First, I don't think there are any bad feelings toward the guy that hit MAY, mistakes happen, but they need to be righted.

Second, blaming that on the racing line be turned on is the most ridiculous thing I've read yet. I think you might be mistaken MAY for an noob. The guy is a great driver, and a better racer. When guys take fast, correct lines, even though they might be on the blue line doesn't mean they are following it. That point holds no water.

From what I've read, it seems that a lot are blaming the other guy for MAY's misfortune. I don't think you could be more wrong. I know MAY is a brillient driver. We have had many brillient races with eachother and I know how much talent has.

My point with the driving line is that it's that bold, thick and obvious, it's pretty much unavoidable not to notice it. You will in some way use it as a reference. When doing laps you may not follow it everywhere but you'll always tend to drift back towards where the line goes. I've seen it many times when watching people overtake. Spoon at Suzuka is a classic example. When 2 cars go side-by-side entering the corner, the driver with the line on will not leave enough space. They use the line as reference and it squeezes opponents far to much.

Third, it is really annoying hearing people talk about other crashes MAY was involved in, and how some go out of their way to say it was his fault. What is wrong with you people?!

I really hate side seat drivers in real life, but I realise I hate them even more on the innerwebs. I wouldn't wish the misfortune MAY faced on anyone, even on those who have empathy for him like that of a mortician.

I haven't said it was entirely its fault. I said it was partly his fault and there were things he could of done from his expirence to provent the accident from happening. And I don't think you should be making points about taking sides as you are one of the most elitist drivers around 👍

 

[Horde_R35]

A final word on the portuguese final...

1) MAY's driving ability is well known. And his "misfortune" at the final race does not decrease his merit and skills. He's most likely the fastest, more consistent and skillful portuguese GT player around.

2) The reactions we are getting from fellow portuguese posters, who seemed to be even more upset with the situation then MAY itself (he deal with it pretty well - my hat's off to you), it's getting, in my honest opinion ridiculous (sorry!); I'm not sure if the driver 'apparently' responsible for the accident reads this forum but, if he does I'm pretty sure that his feeling pretty bad with all this fuzz. People are getting to the point of demanding public excuses from the guy...

3) Another person who is probably getting little disgusted about it also should be probably the actual winner of the event - who, I recall, wasn't involved in the accident in th 1st turn of the finals. His merit on winning the event his '0' accordingly to some of the posts that we've read. No matter how much some people are disappointed about MAY didn't manage to get to Silverstone, there's an actual winner of the event that had merit for it - merit for being on the finals, passing the eliminatory stages and holding it up through the last race. Please respect that and respect him!

1. Everybody knows that and was posted a few times.

2. If your talking about my post... Well that was the way you interpret things. I just said: "That would make him a gentleman." I didnt demand anything. If i rammed MAY (or anyone else) because i was nervous or didnt know how to brake in a national FINAL i would be sure to apolagise for my actions. If 90% does it in a normal GT5p race with no importance, why not in a FINAL?

3. Again thats the way you interpret things. The winner surely has credit for it and i dont recall anyone saying otherwise.

 

[Timppaq]

i never used the line... but others guys on the final did.. no probs at all lets just face it.. there's no turning back now... it's done! lets support Hunter_4_6 (Filipe Barreto) now who has no fault on this, he just did his race. he's the winner and a talented driver too

👍

 

[fasj6418]

I wasn't going to post in this thread about the MAY crashes as it will just add fuel to the fire, but some points being made are just ridiculous...

Firstly, I think the driving line is mainly at fault for the Indy crash. I've said it before, the driving line does NOT work in a race. Drivers defend the line and not the corner, if they are on the line they believe they have right of way and they tend to follow the line instead of taking their own and leaving space. I'm not saying the Indy crash was 100% MAY's fault but if you look at the line he takes, he takes the ideal and perfect line. This is something you can very rarley do at the first corner of a race. Somebody of MAY's expirence in many online races and competitions should know this. No matter who you are racing you MUST give everybody space, as one touch will ruin it. You must be aware of everybody around, late brakers and all your competitors. I dont think the black car is fully at fault the way some guys are pointing out.

The second nurburgring crash I do believe its MAY's fault. You can see the guy back off early to allow MAY space and avoid running into the back of him under brakes. The guy is barley on the throttle in the corner and when the accident actually takes place, he's on the brakes trying to avoid it. MAY caused the accident by taking too much speed into the corner and slamming on the brakes. The car following had no where to go and the bump was unavoidable.

I'm gutted for MAY not making Silverstone and maybe on another day you would have made it, but I think everyone needs to look at these videos and learn. Just because they have made the national finals, doesn't mean you can treat it any differently to an online race in 5. Treat it as you racing randoms online, nerves and the atmosphere can change all of that in a racer...

I agree with you partially, but now speaking without being "politically correct" i thought he black driver was dumb because he was trying to overtake when he couldn't.

I had that reaction because i've seen coutless times in GT5P, where the car on the back will brake after they should to use the car in front as his brake.

I know MAY was "naive" because he assume everybody would behave as gentlemans, but that doesn't take the blame of the black car for driving like an idiot. Maybe it was an honest mistake?

Yes, maybe it was, i don't know the guy, but in normal circunstances nobody brakes where he did, because the overtaking wasn't there.

I think maybe if damage was in, and was ruthless, people would think more and drive more realistic, knowing that a single mistake could take you off the race.

To sum up, i think their responsibilities are different. MAY made a mistake for being naive, and the black car made a mistake for being reckless, which IMO, is worst, hence the complains in this thread.

 

[Horde_R35]

4. Congrats to Felipe Barreto 👍

EDIT: Nice to see you here too Felipe! Welcome to GTPlanet:tup:!

 

[hornet_burnout]

(...)MAY made a mistake for being naive, and the black car made a mistake for being reckless, which IMO, is worst, hence the complains in this thread.

That sums it up nicely 👍

 

[Hun200kmh]

First of all, let me say that I didn't watch any of the videos so whatever I say has nothing to do with what-where-when-who-how, I think it's really pointless to be discussing that.


Secondly, knowing that MAY lost was a surprise for me, although we don't meet that often nowadays, he is an old PSN friend (I think even before he registered in gtplanet) and I followed in silent interest not only the evolution of his amazing laptimes in the portuguese ranking, but also I could tell the amount of hours and total dedication he put into this challenge, just by watching his PSN Id always on, day after day. He really prepared himself.

Thirdly, MAY was unlucky. These things happen in racing, be it in real life or in a virtual environment.

And ... that's it. No point in dragging this issue any further, let's all move on.

To MAY I can only tell that if you really have the dream of becoming a real life racer (a dream I had all my youth) I'm sure other oportunities will present themselves. Wish you the best in that respect.

Hello to all

If you have any question about the final, please ask me, I'll try to answer with complete sincerity

greetings

Congratulations Filipe and I have two questions for you:

1 - Did you consider the possibility of the cars available at Silverstone being Right Hand Drive?
2 - Are you able to change gears with your left arm?

 

[Lotrzyna]

1 - Did you consider the possibility of the cars available at Silverstone being Right Hand Drive?

Were the cars on last GTAcademy Right Hand Drive ?

 

[Dessy182]

Were the cars on last GTAcademy Right Hand Drive ?

I watched all the episodes from the last Academy and it appears they had both. It only mattered for the 350Z's though as the GT-R's use paddle shift.

 

[hornet_burnout]

Hello to all

If you have any question about the final, please ask me, I'll try to answer with complete sincerity

greetings

Hi, I only noticed your post just now

My late welcome and congratz. You drove a perfect final.

I hope you'll fly our colours all the way to the end!

Now to see Porto

 

[Hunter_4_6]

I begin by thanking all your comments, and answering your questions:

1 - Did you consider the possibility of the cars available at Silverstone being Right Hand Drive?

I have considered this possibility, and for now, I'll try to work it at the right hand, gearing with another person at the wheel, is the best that comes to mind.

2 - Are you able to change gears with your left arm?

Now I can do like anyone else, the intent is to improve the process

 

[z06fun]

It looks like PD made a special build of the game just for use in the country finals, if they really wanted the excitement of contestants racing head to head they could have made the whole thing much better by simply making all the cars ghosts all the time. Even with the crazy drafting it would have made for much more equal competition and little chance for controversy over the results. Sure it doesn't represent real life, but neither does the lack of visibility, lack of damage, and the inability to see cars to the side of you etc...

If there was some type of usable side mirrors MAY could have at least had a chance of seeing the black car and may have been able to avoid it. In real life, regardless if someone comes into a corner too hot, you try to avoid them else it could be race over, but of course you need some way of seeing the car to avoid it...

 

[Sphinx]

I agree with you partially, but now speaking without being "politically correct"

i thought he black driver was dumb because he was trying to overtake when he couldn't.

I know MAY was "naive" because he assume everybody would behave as gentlemans, but that doesn't take the blame of the black car for driving like an idiot. Maybe it was an honest mistake?

I think it'll be wise to revert back to being politically correct. If you can't discuss without throwing insults at the driver concerned, then perhaps it's time to end this discussion.

 

[davissi]

There's an awful lot of people giving Bruno-MAY advice which is fine but unless any of us are better than him at racing or time-trailing I don't think we're in a position to know any better. Perhaps if Bruno defended the inside strongly he would've had to compromise his exit and entry for the next turn and someone might've been looking to dive up the inside of 4...who knows ? One thing I do know is Bruno knows...and better than the vast majority of people giving him advice. I think what happened happened and mainly due to pure circumstances and the simple point that you can't win them all when up against very unfavourable and unpredicatable circumstances. The form book has a big challenger for influencing results in this format even moreso than the usual variances in GT5p races.
I personally hope to see him back in these style competitions one day if that's the right thing to do but only he knows that...he certainly knows far better than I do.

 

[zocker_16]

Were the cars on last GTAcademy Right Hand Drive ?

2008 they had both.
The 350Z on day 1 had the steering wheel on the right side, so realy hard to drive for non-english paticipants.
With the GTR on day 4 everyone could chose, between left- and righthand.

 

[fasj6418]

I think it'll be wise to revert back to being politically correct. If you can't discuss without throwing insults at the driver concerned, then perhaps it's time to end this discussion.

Yeah, reading again it sounded a bit too harsh.

I should of made it more clear that everything was based on assumptions, so my apologies to the black car driver if he's reading this.

 

[MarkWebber]

After observing the replays it is quite clear that the black car was responsible for the crash occuring and the race probably should have been stopped. In real life the black car would surely have been given a drive thru but, the race would not have been stopped, or re-run. So in conclusion and summary, one must accept that MAY was dealt a cruel blow but that it is part of racing, it's a simple case of a timid driver clashing with an aggressive driver, it's not always going to end happily. There is always a next year

 

[TiZzla]

After observing the replays it is quite clear that the black car was responsible for the crash occuring and the race probably should have been stopped. In real life the black car would surely have been given a drive thru but, the race would not have been stopped, or re-run. So in conclusion and summary, one must accept that MAY was dealt a cruel blow but that it is part of racing, it's a simple case of a timid driver clashing with an aggressive driver, it's not always going to end happily. There is always a next year

Have you driven the 370z yet dan?

 

[MarkWebber]

Tomorrow Im going to pick it up from Nissan headquaters, I can have it for 5 days, not sure about petrol costs, pretty excited about it!

 

[raceur]

Tomorrow Im going to pick it up from Nissan headquaters, I can have it for 5 days, not sure about petrol costs, pretty excited about it!

The cars are generally returned on fumes ;-)

 

[Timppaq]

Tomorrow Im going to pick it up from Nissan headquaters, I can have it for 5 days, not sure about petrol costs, pretty excited about it!

Wow, sounds like a really nice little bonus 👍

 

[GTP_rpm]

Dont go losing your liscence Dan! ...enjoy the synchro rev matching - its awesome!

 

[z06fun]

One other thing to add, if I was trying to pick a driver to drive one of my personal cars with me, I would certainly not do it using the method they have chosen. I would take combined time trial results from several different car/track combos, or even better, full race times running solo, over this silly method they have chosen any day...