GT Academy Prize Car Seasonal

[Morgoth_666]

After a lot of work and maybe 25 full attempts I did manage to claim second in the Tokyo race with the stock car, and I could see the rest of the ground I needed in that run. But I ran out of time and sobriety before I was able to make up the last second or so. I did adjust the toe angle, but since the adjustment is allowed on the stock suspension I didn't see that as being any different than changing the brake bias.

I changed the oil shortly before the event expired and it was clear I could have won with the extra HP, but didn't have time. I added the close ratio tranny, sports air filter, the chip and the LSD and cleared it easily. However the time ran out during the run and while I got the money and first place prize, I didn't get the level ticket(I assume the prize was a level ticket). But I got a ticket 1,000 instead - probably legitimately - so at least there's that. And it was fun improving my skill at the track.


As predicted, the new SSR5 race was ridiculously easy despite the leader getting 10 seconds more head start and the lap being much shorter and the R34 handling so horribly. Took 2 attempts to win with a lousy race. I can't understand how people think the 370 was tough to control, it just had a bit of an understeer issue once in a while. Much much more manageable than the Skyline. That race was hard because the AI is better at Tokyo than most tracks so you had to get the most out of the car, not because of the car itself.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

PD might have intentionally alters the AI for this race to make it easier, they might have noticed that the last race at Tokyo with 370Z had a tough AI

 

[Morgoth_666]

PD might have intentionally alters the AI for this race to make it easier, they might have noticed that the last race at Tokyo with 370Z had a tough AI

Maybe. There have been races that seemed difficult at SSR5 before, but it's tough to say with so many variables. Maybe I should try looking for a one-make race at SSR5 to see, but then there are also wide varieties in how well the AI can drive one car vs another too.

EDIT: Ran a one-make in the GT Academy car to see what I could, even though there are less cars and a standing start. If anything they seemed even slower than I remembered, I could easily gain 6 seconds a lap with :39s, which I thought I needed :37s to do in the seasonal. Most relevant data is that the fastest laps the AI were running were low 1:44.7s.

 

[Gejabo]

I agree the R34 GTR race was very easy. I was running 1:37's stock. Much, much easier than last week's race, where I actually had to tune the car to get the win.

Funny thing is, I was buying some Ferraris and Lamborghinis before the race just to have some multiples and spend some credits. The last car I was going to buy after the race was a Miura for $15 mil. I waited because it was so expensive. So what do I get with my Level 10 class ticket after finishing the seasonal? None other than a Miura! I nearly pooed myself!

1:37 stock is pretty good.
I'm at 1:40 for quite a clean lap... must be missing someting.

Still almost a week to find the missing seconds :sly

 

[COLOMBIAMIGUE7]

Quick and easy 1st place and the only time under 1 minute so far, but then again, the TT's only been up for a few hours . Won't stay at #1 for long though, LOADS of mistakes!

Most importantly, here's the set up.... Take note below this picture, I have been using 2 set ups and can't decide which one I prefer, they both have their advantages and disadvantages throughout the track. The alternative one gives a lighter feeling car and eliminates understeer entirely, but the one in the picture gives better grip out of the hairpins for the sake of tiny understeer on a couple of corner exits:

For the alternative set up:

*Torque distribution: 25/75
*Front toe to -0.47, Rear to -0.24

Current time with the set up in the picture is 59.770, whereas my best time with set up #2 is 59.779. Only 0.009 difference, so it's entirely down to preference rather than performance.

oil new?

 

[Doodle]

I can't believe I've had the lead for 9 hours now. I've never kept it for this long before! I find it funny that the whole top 5 is using a controller

 

[Endless-Wilso]

Great work doodle that's an epic lap.
Im at a low 1:02 yet with my DS3 looking to break into a 1:01 soon hopefully.

 

[montez34]

The R34 GTR race at SSR5 is way too easy, even with bone stock R43 GTR. Posting lap times average of 1:37, passing the lead is a breeze... really unexpected after the last Tokyo R256 race with 370Z.
So many corners here, where the AI seems to be driving at slow pace.

I couldn't do it stock, the skyline has terrible understeer and the sports hard tires don't help anything. I fully modified mine and just rode the walls because I was sick of trying to make it turn, got into 1st by the 3rd lap.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I couldn't do it stock, the skyline has terrible understeer and the sports hard tires don't help anything. I fully modified mine and just rode the walls because I was sick of trying to make it turn, got into 1st by the 3rd lap.

Slow in, fast out. With the R34, you should brake a bit earlier, maintain speed in corners and accelerate out of the corner gradually. You will also need to turn in a bit earlier, the same should go with most AWD cars in the game, regardless of the tires used.

 

[Denied]

Quick and easy 1st place and the only time under 1 minute so far, but then again, the TT's only been up for a few hours . Won't stay at #1 for long though, LOADS of mistakes!

Most importantly, here's the set up.... Take note below this picture, I have been using 2 set ups and can't decide which one I prefer, they both have their advantages and disadvantages throughout the track. The alternative one gives a lighter feeling car and eliminates understeer entirely, but the one in the picture gives better grip out of the hairpins for the sake of tiny understeer on a couple of corner exits:

For the alternative set up:

*Torque distribution: 25/75
*Front toe to -0.47, Rear to -0.24

Current time with the set up in the picture is 59.770, whereas my best time with set up #2 is 59.779. Only 0.009 difference, so it's entirely down to preference rather than performance.

Good settings, with great car balance. Thank you.
I take time 1:00:342 with 1 hour of TT and now on 27 place in rating.
But i still make a lot of errors

PS.
I cant setup numbers for transmission like on screenshot.
My values is:
1 - 4.922
2 - 3.648
3 - 2.834
4 - 2.297
5 - 1.942
6 - 1.781
Last gear: 3.200
Max Speed: 180

It smallest values which i can set
What i do wrong ?

 

[sephia412]

I got 1:00.727, dooglemonoply and Lewis_Hamilton_ are my heroes. When I grow up I want to be like them.

 

[AnTiheLT]

I got 1:00.727, dooglemonoply and Lewis_Hamilton_ are my heroes. When I grow up I want to be like them.

Its Googlemonoply lool

Up to 8th place so far

 

[sgllocal]

alot of corner cutting going on here in this tt, from the top boys too. TUT TUT

 

[AnTiheLT]

alot of corner cutting going on here in this tt, from the top boys too. TUT TUT

I can't remember if i am one of them

Well if it ain't red it counts

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

I didn't know there's room for corner cutting ... why ?? for a mere number on the ranking list ? Whatever it takes, huh ? I have 1:02.1xxx with bone stock car, and every aids off, and it's good enough for me. If I can get into 1:01.xxx ,it will be a better run without resorting to you know what ...

 

[Doodle]

alot of corner cutting going on here in this tt, from the top boys too. TUT TUT

Well what I believe is that at least 2 wheels on the track at all times on this game is OK. Of course everyone has their own opinion. I would rather have PD put cones on the grass like they did in GT Academy.

 

[HaylRayzor]

1:37 stock is pretty good.
I'm at 1:40 for quite a clean lap... must be missing someting.

Still almost a week to find the missing seconds :sly

In the stock car I had 1 lap of 1:37.9. Mostly running 38s. But I don't like this track and never run it except for seasonals so there would be lots of time to gain if I was better at the track.

The car is another matter. I love this car. It's very tossable for a 4wd. Most 4wd cars just plow no matter what you do but this one will hang the rear out and if you do it right it will rotate without scrubbing off speed.

I didn't know there's room for corner cutting ... why ?? for a mere number on the ranking list ? Whatever it takes, huh ? I have 1:02.1xxx with bone stock car, and every aids off, and it's good enough for me. If I can get into 1:01.xxx ,it will be a better run without resorting to you know what ...

This isn't GT Academy. Anything that doesn't turn the lap red is allowed and even if some people think it's cheating it's not like breaking out of the track or glitching the event with the wrong car.

May as well accept it since no amount of dirty looks and obscene gestures is going to prevent it.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

This isn't GT Academy. Anything that doesn't turn the lap red is allowed and even if some people think it's cheating it's not like breaking out of the track or glitching the event with the wrong car.

May as well accept it since no amount of dirty looks and obscene gestures is going to prevent it.

It does not matter what the event is, what matters is how far players would go to get faster time. I am aware about the red lap timer, and how dodgy is the system when detecting and flagging it as red. I can't help to wonder though, why could not they drive without cutting as close as possible without getting red, is it fun? Anyway, I don't really care about those top ranked players, they did it for their own reasons. Me, on the other hand, happy with a time posted using a stock car.

 

[Froudeybrand]

I need a friend I could borrow off lol

 

[HokieRacer3861]

I need a friend I could borrow off lol

You should probably try here or here. 👍

 

[nebularis23]

Define "corner cutting". I've done a lot of laps on this TT and each time I've accidently gone off track -4wheels-, I get red. I don't know there is room for corner cutting depending on how you define it.

That being said, there are plenty of times that it feels like I have no more than one tire on the track. Honestly, without cones or something, how does one tell if they're on the track or not (at least with two tires)? Do I stop and check each lap to see how "clean" it is? That would drive me nuts.

I don't like blatant cheats. But on this TT I do have to redefine "corner cutting" a bit because there is no way to jam around this race track without being on the edge on a lot of the corners. I've used Doodle's and Lewis Hamilton's ghosts and it never struck me that they were cutting any corners - barely hanging onto the race track at times, but that's what makes this one fun. It's a big car on a small track. If I had to race it any other way, such as with cones, it just would feel like a bad fit between car and track. It would be a different kind of challenge and one that I probably wouldn't enjoy.

So I don't see any cheating going on here, just people responding to the track and the rules. And the rules are: if it's white, it's alright.

Anyway, not trying to start anything with anyone. Just sharing my two cents worth.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

I follow the WRS rules as to whats defined as a clean lap. In short, two wheels on the track at all times. If you follow that, you should have no problem defining a clean lap.

 

[nebularis23]

I follow the WRS rules as to whats defined as a clean lap. In short, two wheels on the track at all times. If you follow that, you should have no problem defining a clean lap.

And that's just the problem: there are two sets of rules people seem to be playing these tt's by - WRS and whatever PD sets forth per track. This isn't WRS.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

And that's just the problem: there are two sets of rules people seem to be playing these tt's by - WRS and whatever PD sets forth per track. This isn't WRS.

I never said it was, just said that thats the rules I, myself, follow for these events. And even tho this is not the WRS, pretty sure they could be used for reference in other events.


Standard Clean OLR Rules:

At least two tires in contact with track at all times.
In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.


Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible

 

[nebularis23]

I never said it was, just said that thats the rules I, myself, follow for these events. And even tho this is not the WRS, pretty sure they could be used for reference in other events.


Standard Clean OLR Rules:

At least two tires in contact with track at all times.
In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.


Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible

Thanks for the rules, but, all I'm saying is that, for me this particular combo would probably feel more like a DMV driving test if track boundaries were regulated in any other way than what PD is doing.

 

[HaylRayzor]

In the end it doesnt matter what anybody thinks or feels. What matters is whether the lap is red or not.

Personal opinions about ethics are just that. Personal.

Scream. Cry. Stomp your feet. It wont change anything.

After all its just a game.

 

[nebularis23]

Personal opinions about ethics are just that. Personal.

👍

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Thanks for the rules, but, all I'm saying is that, for me this particular combo would probably feel more like a DMV driving test if track boundaries were regulated in any other way than what PD is doing.

Well, as I haven't watched any replays, I'm not sure where the problem is. If I follow you correctly, you're saying that people are driving right on the edge of the track with two wheels while the other two are in the grass. If thats the case, there is nothing wrong with that as long as those two tires remain on the track edge. What I consider to be corner cutting is cutting off the corner entirely, like a short cut. This has been possible in past TT's, not because PD deemed it ok, but because of flaws in the programming or penalty system. If people are complaining because players are skilled enough, or lucky enough, to be able to ride the track edge with two wheels, they just need to get over it, nothing wrong with that.

 

[Lewis_Hamilton_]

The biggest problem with course maker tracks is that they lack any form of curbing throughout most of the circuit, especially on the type of corners that would definitely have them on any real life circuit.


I haven't seen Doodle's or anyone else's replay so I don't know how much they're supposedly cutting, but on my lap, I tried not to hack away at the grass. It is possible to get away with a lot and at no point did I come near a disqualification. I didn't see myself as cutting corners anymore than what the F1 racers do every race. I could have done it a lot worse and gained more time, but then I would start getting worried that PD would wipe the lap times like they have done a couple of times before.

In my opinion, there's a difference between attacking a corner and blatantly driving off the circuit to miss a section of tarmac out.

 

[Doodle]

Looks like 24 hours in the lead has finally ended as yinato and dariOPC have both passed me by 3 tenths. I enjoyed being in the lead for a whole day