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[CodeRedR51]

Can I ask exactly why you have a problem with basically anything that isn't GT4? Not trying to be mean, just genuinely curious.

I'd just like something more representative of the production cars. The current T/A cars are about as representative as anything NASCAR uses. GT4 is at a perfect level where the cars are not too extreme, based on the production car, and roughly within the factory body panels without resorting to crazy wide body aero. (one of the reasons I don't care for the new TCR cars)

 

[catamount39]

Personally the racing world needs both. Cars that are more street like but with some teeth (diffuser, wing, splitter), and then cars that are more removed from their street cousins (GT3 and LMGTE). GTE/GT3 is more interesting really. In general a racer with more aero the better, looks crazy as it should. But if its done elegantly that's preferred.

Its not even a real Mustang, just a Tube-frame car with a "Mustang" body (just like the Tube-frames with "Corvette" bodies) so its not even that big a deal for me. If anything, its a perfect example of how outdated and how much of a joke The current T/A cars are.



Can I ask exactly why you have a problem with basically anything that isn't GT4? Not trying to be mean, just genuinely curious.

The T/A1 cars are the joke. Carburetors and some of the car's are from 2001. The 90's cars were higher tech honestly.

 

[RACECAR]

I'd just like something more representative of the production cars. The current T/A cars are about as representative as anything NASCAR uses. GT4 is at a perfect level where the cars are not too extreme, based on the production car, and roughly within the factory body panels without resorting to crazy wide body aero. (one of the reasons I don't care for the new TCR cars)

So for that reason, do you feel the same way about GT3 as you for TCR? After all, those cars are getting dangerously close to GT1 territory and have loose enough regs that things like the Z4 GT3 can exist.

The T/A1 cars are the joke. Carburetors and some of the car's are from 2001. The 90's cars were higher tech honestly.

Its not even the tech, its the fact that EVEN NASCAR finally came to its senses to update and they didn't disappear for a number of years. The series management are trying to Grow a Series that's long fallen from grace yet refuse to advance it forward (something that happened with the Merger of both American Open Wheel and American Sports Car racing). Putting together a old Spec Tube-Frame and slapping a floppy new body on it isn't really "new".

Again, it really says something when a sanctioning that's been criticized for being stuck in the past has done more to make some advancements then what was basically a Road Racing Series.

 

[catamount39]

So for that reason, do you feel the same way about GT3 as you for TCR? After all, those cars are getting dangerously close to GT1 territory and have loose enough regs that things like the Z4 GT3 can exist.



Its not even the tech, its the fact that EVEN NASCAR finally came to its senses to update and they didn't disappear for a number of years. The series management are trying to Grow a Series that's long fallen from grace yet refuse to advance it forward (something that happened with the Merger of both American Open Wheel and American Sports Car racing). Putting together a old Spec Tube-Frame and slapping a floppy new body on it isn't really "new".

Again, it really says something when a sanctioning that's been criticized for being stuck in the past has done more to make some advancements then what was basically a Road Racing Series.

I do like TCR, I won't deny that some things about GT3 need to be reigned in (like GTE engine regs at the least, while the Z4 was amazing, it was a bit strange that it was allowed a V8. At least it was available in the M3? ). TCR is great, like a mini-DTM in a good way, but there should be a GT4 equivalent underneath them, something that's less crazy and more traditional touring car possibly.
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Exactly, Trans-Am are not helping themselves with their car situation at the moment. It's bad when NASCAR has more electronics in their car than yours.

 

[CodeRedR51]

So for that reason, do you feel the same way about GT3 as you for TCR? After all, those cars are getting dangerously close to GT1 territory and have loose enough regs that things like the Z4 GT3 can exist.

GT3 isn't super crazy though either. And that class is mainly composed of higher end cars anyway. I just have no interest in T/A as it currently stands. If they were closer to production based cars then I would be interested.

 

[01GTP]

They need a new car. The Continental is showing it's age.

I still like them and I don't get to see them much, even as a road car.
This will be the 1st year for me to see the new Mercedes. 👍

PWC 2016 Lime Rock

 

[DesertPenguin09]

The Continental GT road car concept debuted in 2002 and the car itself in 2003. That's 14 years old now... And I thought the GT-R was the old guy

 

[01GTP]

The Continental GT road car concept debuted in 2002 and the car itself in 2003. That's 14 years old now... And I thought the GT-R was the old guy

The article said it's good to go until 2021, that would be way old, even older than say.............Godzilla..............and I don't mean the car.

 

[DesertPenguin09]

Seriously odd. Even just from a road car stand point.

 

[catamount39]

The R35 is only a couple years behind it.

 

[Spacegoat]

Warren Luff, Tim Slade and Alex Davison to join team owner Tony Walls in the Objective Racing McLaren for the 12hr.

 

[RACECAR]

The R35 is only a couple years behind it.

Didn't the GT-R Arrive like five years after the Continental?

 

[05XR8]

Warren Luff, Tim Slade and Alex Davison to join team owner Tony Walls in the Objective Racing McLaren for the 12hr.

Damnit! I just don't like David Wall and that's a good lineup.

 

[Spacegoat]

Damnit! I just don't like David Wall and that's a good lineup.

David Wall's not driving it, though?

 

[05XR8]

David Wall's not driving it, though?

His team and also two of the GT-Rs.

 

[GTracer38]

Damnit! I just don't like David Wall and that's a good lineup.

David Wall's not driving it, though?

His team and also two of the GT-Rs.

David Wall has nothing to do with the Objective Racing McLaren. That's Tony Walls team.

David has the two GTR's (as you mentioned) and he did have a Class B (?) Porsche.

 

[Pete05]

David Wall has nothing to do with the Objective Racing McLaren. That's Tony Walls team.

David has the two GTR's (as you mentioned) and he did have a Class B (?) Porsche.

Is this a case of Wall to Wall(s) confusion?

 

[05XR8]

David Wall has nothing to do with the Objective Racing McLaren. That's Tony Walls team.

David has the two GTR's (as you mentioned) and he did have a Class B (?) Porsche.

Whew! Glad that's cleared up.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Didn't the GT-R Arrive like five years after the Continental?

2008 in Japan, 2009 elsewhere I believe.

 

[Pete05]

2008 in Japan, 2009 elsewhere I believe.

If you believe GT6, it was 2007.

 

[catamount39]

Didn't see this one coming! PWC is leaving the SCCA for USAC, and the SCCA has just lost its only top tier series.

http://sportscar365.com/world-challenge/usac-to-sanction-pirelli-world-challenge/

Edit: Not sure what to think of this as I don't know much if anything about USAC, though they have a fantastic past. Maybe their road to rebirth begins with the PWC?

 

[IforceV8]

Didn't see this one coming! PWC is leaving the SCCA for USAC, and the SCCA has just lost its top tier series.

http://sportscar365.com/world-challenge/usac-to-sanction-pirelli-world-challenge/

If this move keeps tow trucks off the track with green flags waving and late night points audits that change the championship on the last day then 👍👍 Smoky safety car burnouts must remain though.

 

[IforceV8]

Magnus to PWC. http://www.magnusracing.com/news/20...er-pirelli-world-challenge-with-full-sea.html

 

[catamount39]

Not even a day into the USAC era and a team joins, coincidence? I think not.

 

[TDZdave]

Panoz to PWC with 2 Avenhoweveritsspelled....

 

[CodeRedR51]

Panoz to PWC with 2 Avenhoweveritsspelled....

It's a GT4 car and I already posted it in the other thread. Yet again we can't decide where to put GT4 stuff. LOL Wonder if I should add GT4 to the title of the other thread...

 

[TDZdave]

It's a GT4 car and I already posted it in the other thread. Yet again we can't decide where to put GT4 stuff. LOL Wonder if I should add GT4 to the title of the other thread...

Aha, have you got a link to a more informative article? The article I read didn't say it what class it actually was in...

GT4? That sucks, considering the last I seen on Panoz Facebook was it was either going to be GTE/ GTLM or GT3,

 

[RACECAR]

It's a GT4 car and I already posted it in the other thread. Yet again we can't decide where to put GT4 stuff. LOL Wonder if I should add GT4 to the title of the other thread...

Well it kinda fits in either thread so:

 

[CodeRedR51]

Aha, have you got a link to a more informative article? The article I read didn't say it what class it actually was in...

GT4? That sucks, considering the last I seen on Panoz Facebook was it was either going to be GTE/ GTLM or GT3,

The link I posted in the other thread talks about it.

Well it kinda fits in either thread so:

I don't mind, but the moderators might.

 

[TDZdave]

The link I posted in the other thread talks about it.


I don't mind, but the moderators might.

Other thread?