GT Sport have over 5 million players

[GT6mebe]

They mean exactly the same thing

I see you don't know basic math then

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Are these Vs. discussions ongoing concurrently on the Forza and PCars forums? Or does everyone gravitate to this side of the site because it’s far more active.

Looking forward to the 6m, 7m, 8m and so on announcements as the generation progresses.

Everyone gravitates to GT threads as like you said GT brings the most activity/attention.

Yup, going to be funny to see what the spin from some of these posters will be as time goes on.

Ironically, the very argument you're using to protect GT right now

GTS doesn't need protecting. It sold 3.85 million+ in 6 months. Its going to do fine.
The only thing that needs protecting in this thread is the numeracy rate of posters.

Ignoring the rest of your post, I'm still having a hard time finding out what you mean by this.

GTS is the most popular and consequently influential sim racer right now.

How can you when at the moment you have dirty drivers and the infamous penalty system preventing you from having a good experience in Sport Mode, know you, the main mode in GTS?

In the good ranks dirty drivers are rare and GTS even having a penalty system, let alone one that PD adjusts, makes it leagues ahead on online than racers that do not.

 

[ArR29]

That was back when NFS was at the height of its glory. And I’m sure looking across all games/platforms there have been open world racers that have sold very well.

I tend to agree with what McLaren said about the move towards open world in racing games is due to the general popularity of the open world genre. And eventually someone is going to take an ambitious approach to that concept with a sim racer.

Market trend change so quickly these days and developing an open world racer is quite risky IMO.

But this thread isn’t something I want to be apart of anymore.

Yeah, me too lol.

 

[ImaRobot]

I see you don't know basic math then

There's no math involved, do you mean basic numbers? I do, they're exactly the same thing either way, because youre trying to grasp onto the fact that he didn't ad a Plus sign to his. Are you really trying to grasp at the fact that because he didn't put that, that he's meaning it sold that amount on the dot? Come on, really?

GTS doesn't need protecting. It sold 3.85 million+ in 6 months. Its going to do fine.
The only thing that needs protecting in this thread is the numeracy rate of posters.

Then why are you fighting so vigilantly on the subject? you know what's pretty funny is the fact that you said that because the users are in the 5.5mil area, than they sold around 5 mil, yet when you came to the Forza side you said that the 5mil+ users but dropped the number so low, acting like sales being only half of the amount of users playing. Yet, here around the exact same figure, you're acting like only 500,000 are duplicate accounts. Which leads to my next point.

I'm sure some will claim 1 million+ of these profiles are fake/dupes lol

You say this, but this is literally what you did when you talk about Forza You insinuated that literally 50% of them where dupes.



And you're trying to say other people are bad at math? If that's not bad math then that means all it is is an intentional lie then.


Lets take a look of what you've said for Forza

When a publisher continues to rely on Monthly Active Users, going far as to include multiple games as well, you know there's nothing remarkable about sales.

Sure and then you would site a meaningful metric like daily concurrent users. Monthly active users is nothing but a poor tactic used by publishers to hide sales whilst still seem successful to shareholders or public (large timeframes, multiple accounts etc). First time I've seen it being used with multiple games though lol

Like I said, active player counts is what pubs do to try and make their game see successful but are too scared to release actual sales info because its nothing remarkable.

So I'm sitting here wondering when you're going to actually apply the same logic you used there, and use it here?

So you're either a hypocrite, or a liar. Or both. Which one is it?

 

[DR_MOJO91]

How can anyone who has played the GT series hate on the Corolla/Levin/Sprinter/Trueno/GT-S /AE86?

Not my cup of tea mate always been a fan of European cars over Japanese with the exception ofthe R32/R33/R34 and well Toyota GT-One. Heck I even went out and got myself an M2 in real life.

 

[AlanH49]

PSN has a new month long sale with plenty Sony 1st Party titles including GT Sport for £15.99. Should provide a nice boost to coincide with the latest update.

https://blog.eu.playstation.com/2018/07/25/playstation-stores-massive-summer-sale-starts-today/

 

[Tornado]

Stop lying

It's kind of hard to say I'm lying by saying you didn't actually read what I said when you have made it increasingly clear with each post since that you have absolutely no clue what my point was to begin with. You've even pulled a number for 6 months sales seemingly out of the air because you saw the number in my post and didn't understand what it was referring to.

If you know basic maths

Evidently, basic ratio conversion is a bit too advanced maths for you.

Here. I'll start from the beginning so you can plug in the numbers into an online converter:
A 10:7 ratio is the same thing as a 5.5:x one.

Solve for X.

I find this hard to believe.

I couldn't really care less what you "believe" about anything; but I would would hope most people implying my self-esteem was inextricably linked to the sales of a big budget video game series would at least be able to comprehend that I probably would have bought more into the series over 14 years and 11 releases than:
Forza 4, used, in 2012, that was sold a couple years later.
Forza 7, on a 30% off Black Friday sale, in 2017.



Now, ignoring the staggering literacy on display...

3.85 million + sales in 6 months.

I've been repeating numerous times in this site that the figure is 3.85 million+

GTS: 3.85+ million in 6 months on PS4

GTS doesn't need protecting. It sold 3.85 million+ in 6 months

According to who? Where did this number come from? This confirmed number of 3.85 treated as a statistical fact. Because the number estimated before was the 3.3-3.4 range. The number talked about everywhere else on this forum, as far as I can tell, for 6 months sales has been in the 3.3-3.4 range. Where did the extra 400,000 sales come from?


Can any of the peanut gallery explain where the number came from? CopperyStinger? Emula? Dr whoever? Since literally noone said 3.85 million sales in this thread until I mentioned it in regards to a point GT6mebe still hasn't understood, where is that figure reported elsewhere that explains it for you three?

 

[ImaRobot]

Forza Horizon will never sniff 8-10million unless the demand for consoles increase. GT Sport is goliath and in the real world david never wins. GT is a juggernaut and well forza gimme a break, been hearing the same gander for almost a decade since 2009. All hype and no show, let alone its supposedly massive fanbase can't even support their franchise.

I'd just like to point out this post really quick. Now, if we go by the same terrible and illogical responses that have been in this thread about GT's numbers, than that would mean that Horizon is sitting at what, 9 million sales?

 

[ImaRobot]

Yes. When your bi annual game has been in decline for 3 releases, I think there would be concern. Easy way out was more microtransactions and DLC, which is exactly what Forza did.

Man, the irony is gold with these revelations that have came out with recent News articles in the past week

 

[GT6mebe]

It's kind of hard to say I'm lying by saying you didn't actually read what I said when you have made it increasingly clear with each post since that you have absolutely no clue what my point was to begin with. You've even pulled a number for 6 months sales seemingly out of the air because you saw the number in my post and didn't understand what it was referring to.

Evidently, basic ratio conversion is a bit too advanced maths for you.

Here. I'll start from the beginning so you can plug in the numbers into an online converter:
A 10:7 ratio is the same thing as a 5.5:x one.

Solve for X.

Truly it seems you do not know basic math.

The two numbers you are using to get a ratio are from different timeframes. 5.5 million players in 9 months, 3.38 million+ sales in 6 months

Because the number estimated before was the 3.3-3.4 range. The number talked about everywhere else on this forum, as far as I can tell, for 6 months sales has been in the 3.3-3.4 range.

Misremembered.

Man, the irony is gold with these revelations that have came out with recent News articles in the past week

GTS has had 6 months of free DLC. Try again

 

[Northstar]

GTS has had 6 months of free DLC. Try again

So 1/3?

+ Free DLC you can't really use in the primary mode of gameplay for the most part
- Microtransactions
- 3 straight titles of declining sales

 

[GT6mebe]

So 1/3?

+ Free DLC you can't really use in the primary mode of gameplay for the most part
- Microtransactions
- 3 straight titles of declining sales

Have no idea what you're talking about but the last bullet point is wrong if referring to GT.

GT5 is the 2nd best selling title in the series
GTS is going to easily outsell GT6.

You may have misremembered. Forza Motorsport is the series with 3 straight titles of declining sales.

 

[Northstar]

Have no idea what you're talking about but the last bullet point is wrong if referring to GT.

GT5 is the 2nd best selling title in the series
GTS is going to easily outsell GT6.

You may have misremembered. Forza Motorsport is the series with 3 straight titles of declining sales.

Alright, I admit I was wrong on that one (see how that works!), but it doesn't change the fact they've added microtransactions after stating they wouldn't and most of the DLC is basically useless in the FIA championship.

 

[GT6mebe]

most of the DLC is basically useless in the FIA championship.

According to PSN trophies 50%+ of the games players don't even play Sport. What makes you think GTS is entirely about FIA lol

 

[Northstar]

According to PSN trophies 50%+ of the games players don't even play Sport. What makes you think GTS is entirely about FIA lol

I don't think you want to go down the trophy data road, it would really ruin your whole point in this thread.

 

[GT6mebe]

I don't think you want to go down the trophy data road, it would really ruin your whole point in this thread.

Why's that?

 

[fastone371]

I think that the alleged 50% who do play sport mode is going to shrink real fast with the new daily races lasting 1 week

 

[Northstar]

Why's that?

According to PSN trophies 50%+ of the games players don't even play Sport. What makes you think GTS is entirely about FIA lol

The claim you made is over 50% of the players don't even play online. So how than do they manage to have 5 million players in the FIA series as the original tweet claims? Does that mean they've actually sold over 10 million copies?

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Considering how much you've been going after other people's intelligence lately, I'd love to hear the explanation from someone with superior intellect!

 

[ImaRobot]

GTS has had 6 months of free DLC. Try again

Yeah because it actually needed it more than the game you're comparing it to, to be honest. It makes perfect sense to try to keep PR up considering the drop in content from this iteration to the last. Whatever the case, it's a win for me, and it seems the longer I wait the better.

However it doesn’t take away from the irony of all the statements you’ve made. Now GTS is definitely part of that group regardless of the DLC because of microtransactions.

What I'm going to guess is that you're going to give it a pass because they offered free DLC, so microtransactions are ok. However, you'd still go so far to make it an issue for Forza, when it has none at all. So I'm wondering, why do you attack one that has literally none, but give a pass to the one that actually does have microtransactions?

 

[Silver Arrows]

The MT thread and this one really just goes to show why I stay in the Forza forun, because to some people here, defending the honor of the GT series is a zero sum game. GT good, Forza bad. Can't let Forza win.

It truly is sad considering that when it comes down to it, Forza fans FWIW are much more willing to be open about the faults of the game more so then some of the people in this very thread who prop up GTS as the best thing since sliced bread.

 

[AKbizzy]

The MT thread and this one really just goes to show why I stay in the Forza forun, because to some people here, defending the honor of the GT series is a zero sum game. GT good, Forza bad. Can't let Forza win.

It truly is sad considering that when it comes down to it, Forza fans FWIW are much more willing to be open about the faults of the game more so then some of the people in this very thread who prop up GTS as the best thing since sliced bread.

Although this did not stop you and the hidden fans, such as ImaRobot, who notices shortcomings in direct comparison only in the GTS, once again come here and inspire yourself that Forza is better. How strange to listen about the fact that the fans of the forza are criticizing their game more, when there are a lot of crying and whining threads on the GTS forums (although they probably created by hidden forza fans who can not reconciled to the fact that GTS with small content at the release and with multiplayer focusing has become more successful than FM7).

 

[ImaRobot]

Although this did not stop you and the hidden fans, such as ImaRobot, who notices shortcomings in direct comparison only in the GTS

For instance?

once again come here and inspire yourself that Forza is better.

I see you have trouble reading. I've never, not once, ever said Forza is better. If you've actually payed attention, you'd notice that all I've done is actually correct misinformation, rather than make a direct comparison about it being better. If you want to believe in lies, go for it, that's all you.

How strange to listen about the fact that the fans of the forza are criticizing their game more, when there are a lot of crying and whining threads on the GTS forums (although they probably created by hidden forza fans who can not reconciled to the fact that GTS with small content at the release and slant in multiplayer has become more successful than FM7).

Jesus do you realize how stupid this sounds? Yes, go to the Forza forum and you'll see a good bit of criticism about it, why is that surprising? No one is even saying anything about GTS doing better or worse as a game.

However, you should also go to any of the recent heated debates in this GTS forum, and you'd quickly be able to tell that it's never the Forza fans that bring up Forza, its the Diehard GT fans that apparently made a blood-pact with the game and have no choice but to worship it and only it.

Wanna know the real kicker? I'm a fan of Racing Games, I'm not married to one single franchise like you seem to be.

 

[AKbizzy]

However, you should also go to any of the recent heated debates in this GTS forum, and you'd quickly be able to tell that it's never the Forza fans that bring up Forza, its the Diehard GT fans that apparently made a blood-pact with the game and have no choice but to worship it and only it.

Oh, and without even going there, I immediately remember the "insane" Hage Dayo aka "better Buy Xbox One cuz Forza have better decals"
Well, yes, as I said for some reason, the forza fans "DIEHARD" for their game on the GTS forums

 

[ImaRobot]

Oh, and without even going there, I immediately remember the "insane" Hage Dayo aka "better Buy Xbox One cuz Forza have better decals"

Which also wasn't a discussion started by him either. Either way, if you actually payed attention and used those eyeballs, like you're pretending to do, than you would have realized that he was also called out for cherry picking, just like the user that was praising GTS.

So.... for instance?

Well, yes, as I said for some reason, the forza fans "DIEHARD" for their game on the GTS forums

The thing is that you're labeling people that disagree with certain aspects of GTS as "Forza" Fans, when in fact, from what I can tell, the people you're labeling are fans of more than just Forza. I'm a fan of GTS, I'm a fan of Forza, I'm a fan of NFS, and I'm a fan of Pcars, yet I'm not asinine enough to pretend that none of them have faults. The photomode alone in GTS would give me hours of enjoyment, I already know that, and that's not even diving into the game yet.

 

[TurismoBad]

The claim you made is over 50% of the players don't even play online. So how than do they manage to have 5 million players in the FIA series as the original tweet claims? Does that mean they've actually sold over 10 million copies?



Considering how much you've been going after other people's intelligence lately, I'd love to hear the explanation from someone with superior intellect!

You need to be online to play single player and save the game. Everyone who plays GTS is "online" either they play sport mode or not. 5+ mln was referring to GTS players not FIA championship online participants.

Correct me if I'm wrong

 

[emula]

The MT thread and this one really just goes to show why I stay in the Forza forun, because to some people here, defending the honor of the GT series is a zero sum game. GT good, Forza bad. Can't let Forza win.

It truly is sad considering that when it comes down to it, Forza fans FWIW are much more willing to be open about the faults of the game more so then some of the people in this very thread who prop up GTS as the best thing since sliced bread.

And for some people here GT is bad, Forza is good. Can't let GT win.

 

[ImaRobot]

And for some people here GT is bad, Forza is good. Can't let GT win.

Who said GTS was bad? It would be good to point out, considering no one is really saying that. All that's ever been done is people correcting the information that has been spewed from people like you, Copperysinger, and GT6Mebe. You three seem to have a hard time actually representing what is going on within these games. When proven wrong, which is most of the time, you resort to just repeating yourself with little to no facts around it. Not only that, but when it is presented that what is actually said was false, you seem to be incapable of accepting it, or even acknowledging it. The public view you guys seem to have wouldn't even be so bad if you tried acknowledging some of the things you say aren't entirely true, but instead you try to bury it with more inaccuracies.

 

[Silver Arrows]

Although this did not stop you and the hidden fans, such as ImaRobot, who notices shortcomings in direct comparison only in the GTS, once again come here and inspire yourself that Forza is better. How strange to listen about the fact that the fans of the forza are criticizing their game more, when there are a lot of crying and whining threads on the GTS forums (although they probably created by hidden forza fans who can not reconciled to the fact that GTS with small content at the release and with multiplayer focusing has become more successful than FM7).

lol

And for some people here GT is bad, Forza is good. Can't let GT win.

Considering you're the dip**** who consistently tries to make GT look like a winner by using doctored and fake screenshots of Forza as comparison points, the fact that you're really trying to accuse me of being a Forza fanboy is quite pot calling the kettle black, no?

 

[McLaren]

Oh, and without even going there, I immediately remember the "insane" Hage Dayo aka "better Buy Xbox One cuz Forza have better decals"
Well, yes, as I said for some reason, the forza fans "DIEHARD" for their game on the GTS forums

Meh. So we have our own version of Emula. The difference is he got called out on it too.

Hell, if we wanna dig into that thread, I even defended your argument when someone accused you of being emula.

But damn do I want GT to fail.

 

[Northstar]

You need to be online to play single player and save the game. Everyone who plays GTS is "online" either they play sport mode or not. 5+ mln was referring to GTS players not FIA championship online participants.

Correct me if I'm wrong

The original claim by PD was 5 million in the FIA championship.

 

[AKbizzy]

Oh God, how I adore this, you all trying to sound like an adequate racing games fans, but your madfans nature flows from all the slots
It's just ridiculous to see a bunch of the same people persuading that they do not relate to one game, at least I do not convince anyone that I'm a fan of Forza (although it would be very funny)
Bad sales of FM7 you are hiding behind the sales of FH3
Nitpicking about 5 million players in Fia Championship wrong tweet
When you sit every day on the GTS forums and throwing **** at all who incorrectly mention your divine Forza. And yes, I do not want the FM7 to fail because the bottom has already been punched. Enough already to lie to yourself, you are same madfans.

But damn do I want GT to fail.

It's worthwhile to touch you a little bit, as it starts to pour too ****, but you notice it only from GT fans