GT Sport Reviews

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Scaff
My own initial impressions of GTS.

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Only thing I want to add to this is your mention about sound.
While GTS is a huge improvement over GT6, I don't think it's on par with the rest of the major racing games, even on PS4. PC has far more realistic sounding cars, not only through the engine notes, but also because you can hear the chassis moving about under the strain your putting it under on properly bumpy tracks instead of GTS's bowling alley surfaces.
 
IGN's review is quite decent IMO, I like the Australian guy's balanced view on the game, praising the positive side, and explaining why the negative side is as such. His review on PC2 was also decent as well.

I love the game, even though I've only touched the Driving School challenges and a bit of Sport Mode and Scapes shoots. But I'm fully aware of its absolutely abysmal vehicle and track content and the always-online saving system as a major bugbear to me. (160 vehicles that basically includes the racing versions of the same cars)

But, I can see that this game is similar to Forza 5, a game where it only had 200 cars and much less tracks than in the previous games, due to it being the first Forza title on Xbox One.

GTS is a starting point for the game to get the basics done right first, then expanding its content as time or when the next installment goes forward. I can expect the next GT to have much more content as it evolves from GTS (which aside from the always-online thingie, is quite stable and have the basics well covered)
 
Scaff
My own initial impressions of GTS.

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Scaff, I enjoyed watching your initial thoughts. I think you hit the head on the nail with your views on the penalty system, your impressions on those points were compelling. There was some points you mentioned about the physics/handling that seem more about personal gripes that I feel should be considered neutral (although it is your impression). I think the FFB feeling is suitable for this Type of game. Knowing that GTS is supposed to be a Video game for casual entertainment + a simulator at the same time, I don't expect FFb to have perfect implementations on tracks like Nordschleife. However, from a serious sim racer perspective I think you could make a good review on Gran Turismo Sport. The main reason I have been so critical of your thoughts previously because you was so quick to jump in to challenge my impressions in the other thread, I didn't think you realized I was being trolled by people from another forum.

Edit: Also your argument about the lack of cars (many same cars but in different classes) was much more substantial and compelling than what I watched from IGN.

I Feel most reviewers may overlook some things that stands out as a plus in Gran Turismo Sport and the final score will reflect on that. If you are a serious sim racer I don't expect you to be blown away by the landscapes and music in the game, but it is a part of the game.
 
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I was on the brink of ordering the collectors edition for GT Sport, but having watched the IGN review for it, I have taken a step back and realised that the game just isn't worth a £100 investment. I will instead buy the base game. I'm sure I will enjoy GT Sport regardless, but as much as I love the franchise, there are indeed alternatives.

With this said, I have decided, in addition to buying the vanilla GT Sport, I will also pick up Project Cars 2, Forza 7 and Assetto Corsa. I have been exclusively giving Gran Turismo the attention this whole time, and though I don't entirely agree with the philosophies of its competitors (Forza 7's microtransactions and lootboxes for example) it would be foolish of me to not at least give them a try.

Don't get me wrong, I still believe GT Sport is a step in the right direction for the franchise, but I can't disguise the fact that I feel the game is so underwhelming compared to its rivals.
 
baldgye
Yeah I must say, I was glad to hear I wasn't the only one bummed out at how many VGT cars are in the game over real world cars.
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WAY too many VGT cars, Ill never drive any of them unless forced to by the game. Too many fake tracks too! For a game thats built its name on realism and content this one falls pathetically short. The online saving is ludicrous at best. Other than that Im really enjoying the game.
 
InebriHATED
WAY too many VGT cars, Ill never drive any of them unless forced to by the game. Too many fake tracks too! For a game thats built its name on realism and content this one falls pathetically short. The online saving is ludicrous at best. Other than that Im really enjoying the game.
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Yeah I keep winning VGT cars... like great, thanks... more nonsense I'll never drive... I guess at least these have interiors though?
 
InebriHATED
WAY too many VGT cars, Ill never drive any of them unless forced to by the game. Too many fake tracks too! For a game thats built its name on realism and content this one falls pathetically short. The online saving is ludicrous at best. Other than that Im really enjoying the game.
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Maybe I'm getting older but each time I see the prize car lottery offering 3 spaceships and a simple Renault Clio, I want the slowest car^^
 
RC45
And rightly so. The few people that owned the old GT games and are super competitive into online are not the majority of purchasers.

GT:Sport is catering to a tiny minority of players. You know how many people play car games on PC? Now you now how few of those play iRacing? That's ratio we are talking about.

Sadly Kaz and Sony knew the millions of loyal past GT fans would buy many hundreds of thousands of copies sight unseen - they counted on it.

Many of those copies cannot be returned, the digital copies cannot be returned - so Sony will get to keep the money, but the very few people left playing online will mean the GT:Sport servers will go dark much sooner than later due to lack of interest.

Most of us game players have no interest in eSports - we lead busy fulfilled lives and this game was supposed be an entertaining diversion, not all consuming, and waiting around for 2 races spread over an hour is time consuming.

I just wish somewhere a wealthy class action lawyer that grew up on GT is looking at this fiasco of GT:Sport he has bought and is trying to figure out a way to take Sony, PD and Kaz to the cleaners - that is how much I dislike what I have bought since I have no chance of getting my money back. I wish someone would sue Sony and PD and win, just so I can feel better :)
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They made it pretty clear what GT Sport was about. I knew damn well what I was getting into before I bought the game. If you didnt know GTS was centered around competitive online racing then you werent paying any attention. Cant sue companies due to your lack of research.
 
InebriHATED
They made it pretty clear what GT Sport was about. I knew damn well what I was getting into before I bought the game. If you didnt know GTS was centered around competitive online racing then you werent paying any attention. Cant sue companies due to your lack of research.
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Kaz said "online is 15% of game" - that seems to contradict the notion that 'everyone knew it was online only'. :)
 
BanditRa101801
Positive review from Motorsport.com. Worth a read:

https://www.motorsport.com/sim-racing/news/gran-turismo-sport-review-ps4-967854/
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I agree with this author. The main reason so many people are up in arms, minus the always online aspect, is because they were expecting GT 7. GTS is something totally different. This one is for the DRIVERS not the car collectors.

RC45
Kaz said "online is 15% of game" - that seems to contradict the notion that 'everyone knew it was online only'. :)
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In the comment I quoted nowhere did he complain about the online only aspect. He was upset about not being able to casually race. That races took too long and he doesnt have time, that hes not into esports, etc. The game getting bricked when their servers are down is COMPLETE BS. I agree with that, although Im sure itll smooth out shortly. But everyone crying because they were expecting GT7 is nonsense.
 
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InebriHATED
I agree with this author. The main reason so many people are up in arms, minus the always online aspect, is because they were expecting GT 7. GTS is something totally different. This one is for the DRIVERS not the car collectors.
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"Such an online-focused product may not be to everybody’s taste, but Gran Turismo deserves credit for taking a step back, deciding exactly what it wishes to accomplish – and then totally nailing it"
You agree to that?
 
JulesDennis
"Such an online-focused product may not be to everybody’s taste, but Gran Turismo deserves credit for taking a step back, deciding exactly what it wishes to accomplish – and then totally nailing it"
You agree to that?
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Im not sure they TOTALLY nailed it but minus a few niggles I think its accomplished what it tried to do. Until the race seasons open, what the real meat n potatoes of this game is about, the game cant totally be judged.
 
My very short review:
-without the mandatory online save: 7/10, could be a solid 8/10 in the future with more tracks/cars/features...
-in the actual state: less than five to put it mildly. The game is basically bricked without connection with lots of issues: what if I can't save the game after an endurance event? This constant feeling of having a sword of Damocles hanging over my head. (I know it's just a game^^)
 
InebriHATED
In the comment I quoted nowhere did he complain about the online only aspect. He was upset about not being able to casually race. That races took too long and he doesnt have time, that hes not into esports, etc. The game getting bricked when their servers are down is COMPLETE BS. I agree with that, although Im sure itll smooth out shortly. But everyone crying because they were expecting GT7 is nonsense.
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Do you know why some people may have been expecting GT7? Because they were told to.
 
InebriHATED
Im not sure they TOTALLY nailed it but minus a few niggles I think its accomplished what it tried to do. Until the race seasons open, what the real meat n potatoes of this game is about, the game cant totally be judged.
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Using your logic mate and since we cant totally judge it,then we also cannot tell if they accomplished what it tried to do.
So we need to wait until race seasons open and then say if
"Gran Turismo deserves credit for taking a step back, deciding exactly what it wishes to accomplish – and then totally nailing it".
 
SlipZtrEm
Do you know why some people may have been expecting GT7? Because they were told to.
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“Gran Turismo 7 Sport” would be a more representative name for the game with its breadth of content and new eSport focus according to Kaz.

Same article also mentions esports focus though. Funny, most of what I came upon when I was researching the game pre release was that it was focused on competitive online racing and that the "career" mode would be limited. Sorry, your fantasies got the best of ya bud.
 
Haitauer
It very much depends on what you want from the game. If its good and effortless online racing its ready. Ive said this before and i say it again - GT sport was aimed to be online racer for the masses and its well on its way to just that.
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How is this really different to GT5/6 or any other racing game? There are 5 people on my friends list who have GTS, none of them race in the sportsmode. They see it the same way as I did, kinda like missions or seasonal event, just with humans. They make their own rooms, just like in previous GT's. I don't see how GTS is "online racing for the masses" more than any previous GT. Races in sport mode should be more frequent than every 20 minutes too.

InebriHATED
They made it pretty clear what GT Sport was about. I knew damn well what I was getting into before I bought the game. If you didnt know GTS was centered around competitive online racing then you werent paying any attention. Cant sue companies due to your lack of research.
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Kaz made sure to ensure those who were concerned about it being an online game needn't worry. As 85% of the game is offline. Kaz doing his best again to make GT fans hear what they need to hear. The guy is scrupulous.
 
SlipZtrEm
Do you know why some people may have been expecting GT7? Because they were told to.
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That seems fair enough, but that news post also links to this, which would kind of highlight that GT Sport was going to at the very least, launch with no where close to the number of cars in GT6, 5, 4 or 3... (I've no idea how many cars where in GT1 & 2).

Also in that post is another comment that is quite important because it gives context to what Kaz thinks GT7 means;

“For me, Gran Turismo Sport is Gran Turismo 7. Gran Turismo Sport is something that marks the beginning of a new generation or era. When you consider Gran Turismo 1-6 as the first era, GT Sport marks a new generation moving forward.”
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I'm only now coming across these news posts as it seemed fairly clear to me what GT Sport was going to roughly be about, but it seems like Kaz (like many creators) has grand visions and is so in love with what he's doing, he doesn't present things how they actually are, or how any normal person on the outside, would view them. This quote about how GT Sport could have been GT7 has been posted a lot so I think it's worth going into what that means (which is all in the link you provided).
If people read that thinking YEAH! GT7! 1500 cars!!!! then they didn't do a great job of reading the actual thing that was posted.
 
CConspicuous
Remember, this is from the industry that Gran Turismo is catering towards. They're making something for the motorsport industry, not Rod who drives an S14/Civic and wants to be able to put a V12 in a hatchback in a sandbox-carpg-gottacollectamall game.
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Thank god for options. Someone needs to cover that ground since it seems Project Cars 2 and GTS seem to be aiming for similar areas.
 
CConspicuous
Remember, this is from the industry that Gran Turismo is catering towards. They're making something for the motorsport industry, not Rod who drives an S14/Civic and wants to be able to put a V12 in a hatchback in a sandbox-carpg-gottacollectamall game.
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I understood that before reading the article, but still wanted to share it anyway.
 
CConspicuous
Remember, this is from the industry that Gran Turismo is catering towards. They're making something for the motorsport industry, not Rod who drives an S14/Civic and wants to be able to put a V12 in a hatchback in a sandbox-carpg-gottacollectamall game.
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Not sure why you're spamming this as if we don't know what the game is about. We know and some people don't like it and voice their displeasure here. Continuing to repeat the obvious isn't going to change that.
 
Johnnypenso
Not sure why you're spamming this as if we don't know what the game is about. We know and some people don't like it and voice their displeasure here. Continuing to repeat the obvious isn't going to change that.
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Well, the haters repeat Kaz's 15% quote enough......
 
CConspicuous
Remember, this is from the industry that Gran Turismo is catering towards. They're making something for the motorsport industry, not Rod who drives an S14/Civic and wants to be able to put a V12 in a hatchback in a sandbox-carpg-gottacollectamall game.
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I'm sorry but GT is what started that particular concept in the first place. We should thank it though, since it made the racing genre at least interesting back in the day with the whole car modding and such, inspiring a game that is now the only one left because GT wanted to mimic games like iRacing and pCARS. Beautiful...
InebriHATED
Well, the haters repeat Kaz's 15% quote enough......
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I wouldn't put it that way bud, nor whiners or complainers.
 

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