GT Sport's Next Content Update is On Its Way

[Scuderia Paul]

What do you think of the Group C car sounds?

 

[Lord of Tranz]

Literally no idea what you are talking about

Not hard to figure out.

Most of what comes, including all these single player additions, are all things that were/are in the GT franchise from before. They drip feed us the game rather than take the time to complete it and release a full game.

Any new addition to the franchise is fair play, and awesome to see for free. But this track and cars that are for le man's are all old content.

 

[daifuku74]

Nothing remotely looked like the S2000 in the pics Kaz tweeted, why are you surprised?

because
1. that's a legendary car
2. it's been present in every other GT game IIRC and Sports still does not feature any yet
3. It's one of Kaz's favorites
4. Gran Turismo enjoyments also comes from emblematic and historic cars and not only latest cars around.
... and probably other reasons too

 

[VXR]

Surely 95% of things requested for this game are old content?

 

[bdj57]

Megane Trophy gameplay and replay footage :

 

[TonyJZX]

Most of what comes, including all these single player additions, are all things that were/are in the GT franchise from before. They drip feed us the game rather than take the time to complete it and release a full game.

Any new addition to the franchise is fair play, and awesome to see for free. But this track and cars that are for me man's are all old content.

I get ya but its a bit late in the day complaining about PD's game strategy... I remember people complaining about the same thing in GT6.

You should have known that your $60 back in October was paying for an episodic game. If you didnt accept that, then you didnt have to buy it.

If we get the old stuff lke Deep Forest and Midfield expect this place to explode.. yes i know its old content but people love that.

The opposite to this is FM7 where all the content is static from day one and look where they are now.

 

[IngRobNy]

Would you say the same thing about a KTM X-Bow GT4? Because you could argue that it has about the same power and weight as the Mégane, it’s more or less also a purpose-built race car (with a carbon monocoque no less), so how is that different?

And since this is a game, and GT4<>Gr.4, I think it’s the right decision to put it in Gr.4.

Yes i would, the X-Bow we have in GT S is not a GT4 car, but this is:

and for the Megane, it's a one-make car in the real world and that's why I feel it is misplaced in GT S and should be a Gr. X car, I don't buy the other fictional Gr. 4 cars in GT S either, I have the Audi and the Porsche, because they are real life GT4 cars .

PD should turn the Alpine A110 into a GT4 car instead:

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-n.../geneva/2017/alpine-sports-car-2017-revealed/

 

[warp9engage]

Ha ha. You were the one presenting false data in the first place with laptimes that don't apply the the cars in the game. Did you realise the the gap between the '10 908 and the '16 cars is bigger that the one between Group C and LMP1.

Anyway the Group C cars and LMP1 cars are in GR.1 specification anyway.

I was presenting false data? Nonsense. Skewed due to lack of research? Yes, I should have researched more, for more accuracy. The data, though, was all authentic.

My whole point is that Group 1, and other racing classes in GT Sport, are completely unrealistic because they lump together cars that shouldn't race each other and, somehow, equalize them. As you said, and I've said too, it's not just a gap between Group C and LMP1, it's also a gap between older and newer LMP1s. Yet, these cars are programmed to run the same way, appearance and technological level do not matter. That's the criticism I level at the racing classes of GT Sport and why I avoid race cars entirely.

With that out of the way, this: "Did you realise the the gap between the '10 908 and the '16 cars is bigger that the one between Group C and LMP1." You forgot to add "at Le Mans" because the story is very different elsewhere.

Here's the thing, you've tuned your radio to only one station: Le Mans. Okay, but Le Mans isn't the only track in GT Sport. PD have to make the cars close, in pace, around all the game's tracks, for close racing. On other tracks, your statement I quoted above, is blatantly untrue. We saw the gap between a 2016 LMP1 and a Group C prototype, under identical conditions, was 11.6 seconds in favor of the LMP1. This was at Road America, a speed oriented track, not as fast as Le Mans but still considered fast. Now, you say the gap between the 2016 cars and diesel LMP1 is bigger than the gap between Group C and 2016 LMP1...

Even if this is true at Le Mans, it's doesn't stand around your average racetrack. The fastest race-lap, recorded in 2008, at Road America, dry race, by the Audi R10 TDI was a 1:48.7. The 2016 919 did a 1:47.4.

Gap between 2016 LMP1 and Group C -> 11.6 seconds.
Gap between 2016 LMP1 and older diesel LMP1 -> 1.3 seconds.

So yeah, the Group C car is definitely closer to the 2016 LMP1 than the diesel LMP1.

Get it in your head: the only kind of track, in which Group C can match modern LMP1 is Le Mans, and that's changing. For the rest of tracks, generally speaking, the manual gearboxes, older turbos, non-hybrid systems, lesser aerodynamics and the general technological deficit of Group C, means LMP1 will kick it's behind pretty much anywhere. Outside of GT Sport, a fair fight between LMP1 and Group C, simply isn't happening.

 

[Bom15]

It's a nice update. I like the majority of the cars. Minus the Clio and BRZ and I'm more a Spa man than La Sarthe. But still glad we have it. A big minus point though (for me). I was looking forward to putting the '88 Castrol GTP livery on the XJR-9. But the whole front is counted as the bonnet. So putting straight lines in front of the wheels on the side is pretty much impossible. Tried both align with surface and camera and tried curves. Hope they can change that. Make the little panel on the front the bonnet instead. Not looked at the C9 or R92CP in the livery editor. I sure hope they don't have the same setup.

 

[Lord of Tranz]

I get ya but its a bit late in the day complaining about PD's game strategy... I remember people complaining about the same thing in GT6.

You should have known that your $60 back in October was paying for an episodic game. If you didnt accept that, then you didnt have to buy it.

If we get the old stuff lke Deep Forest and Midfield expect this place to explode.. yes i know its old content but people love that.

The opposite to this is FM7 where all the content is static from day one and look where they are now.

You get an extra point for enthusiasm.

But seriously, my money spent does give me a right to pass opinion bub. Like any one else.

Like it or not, 'free' isn't safe from criticisms. Obviously.

Upon reflection of re-reading your post, to see someone refer to GT as 'episodic gaming' I find that rather embarrassing really. Such a pathetic line that, lol.

 

[Tired Tyres]

I was presenting false data? Nonsense. Skewed due to lack of research? Yes, I should have researched more, for more accuracy. The data, though, was all authentic.

My whole point is that Group 1, and other racing classes in GT Sport, are completely unrealistic because they lump together cars that shouldn't race each other and, somehow, equalize them. As you said, and I've said too, it's not just a gap between Group C and LMP1, it's also a gap between older and newer LMP1s. Yet, these cars are programmed to run the same way, appearance and technological level do not matter. That's the criticism I level at the racing classes of GT Sport and why I avoid race cars entirely.

With that out of the way, this: "Did you realise the the gap between the '10 908 and the '16 cars is bigger that the one between Group C and LMP1." You forgot to add "at Le Mans" because the story is very different elsewhere.

Here's the thing, you've tuned your radio to only one station: Le Mans. Okay, but Le Mans isn't the only track in GT Sport. PD have to make the cars close, in pace, around all the game's tracks, for close racing. On other tracks, your statement I quoted above, is blatantly untrue. We saw the gap between a 2016 LMP1 and a Group C prototype, under identical conditions, was 11.6 seconds in favor of the LMP1. This was at Road America, a speed oriented track, not as fast as Le Mans but still considered fast. Now, you say the gap between the 2016 cars and diesel LMP1 is bigger than the gap between Group C and 2016 LMP1...

Even if this is true at Le Mans, it's doesn't stand around your average racetrack. The fastest race-lap, recorded in 2008, at Road America, dry race, by the Audi R10 TDI was a 1:48.7. The 2016 919 did a 1:47.4.

Gap between 2016 LMP1 and Group C -> 11.6 seconds.
Gap between 2016 LMP1 and older diesel LMP1 -> 1.3 seconds.

So yeah, the Group C car is definitely closer to the 2016 LMP1 than the diesel LMP1.

Get it in your head: the only kind of track, in which Group C can match modern LMP1 is Le Mans, and that's changing. For the rest of tracks, generally speaking, the manual gearboxes, older turbos, non-hybrid systems, lesser aerodynamics and the general technological deficit of Group C, means LMP1 will kick it's behind pretty much anywhere. Outside of GT Sport, a fair fight between LMP1 and Group C, simply isn't happening.

I know what track the belong on buddly. That is the only track I've talked about.

The laptime data you used to support your argument was entirely false. You used '17 laps. We don't have '17 cars. It has already been pointed out to you that your Group C numbers are wrong. Neither matters though as IT DID NOT CONTAIN A SINGLE LAP from a car in the game. Now cut the attitude.

 

[snowgt]

Yes i would, the X-Bow we have in GT S is not a GT4 car, but this is:

and for the Megane, it's a one-make car in the real world and that's why I feel it is misplaced in GT S and should be a Gr. X car, I don't buy the other fictional Gr. 4 cars in GT S either, I have the Audi and the Porsche, because they are real life GT4 cars .

I was talking specifically about the real life GT4 KTM. It has about 360hp and about 1000kg, depending on current BoP. And it’s certainly not in the spirit of the GT4-class. And yet, they made it work...

 

[Lord of Tranz]

Surely 95% of things requested for this game are old content?

And had the game come initially with a full roster, like it should, we'd be seeking, and they'd be offering something new.

Pretty obvious too really.

They got you begging for stuff that is already GT content. Lol.

 

[TonyJZX]

You get an extra point for enthusiasm.

But seriously, my money spent does give me a right to pass opinion bub. Like any one else.

Like it or not, 'free' isn't safe from criticisms. Obviously.

Upon reflection of re-reading your post, to see someone refer to GT as 'episodic gaming' I find that rather embarrassing really. Such a pathetic line that, lol.

You may call it enthusiasm, I just call it being realistic.

Your opinion is noted but look at yourself, you're a lone dissenting voice here, what did you expect? People to cheer lead your depression?

Your criticism is noted but obviously the vast majority will think what they will of your 'criticisms'.

I seriously dont know why people like you even bother... PD is like this, they've been doing this since GT6 and yet you think a leopard changes its spots? Christ talk about delusion.

I'm still with you, I didnt think this nonsense was worth $60, I paid $29.95 and for what I get for that money I'm good with it.

Here's the flipside, I paid $60 for FM7 and its friggin' dead as a doornail right now so that's what you get for releasing all your tracks at once...

 

[Lord of Tranz]

You may call it enthusiasm, I just call it being realistic.

Your opinion is noted but look at yourself, you're a lone dissenting voice here, what did you expect? People to cheer lead your depression?

Your criticism is noted but obviously the vast majority will think what they will of your 'criticisms'.

I seriously dont know why people like you even bother... PD is like this, they've been doing this since GT6 and yet you think a leopard changes its spots? Christ talk about delusion.

I'm still with you, I didnt think this nonsense was worth $60, I paid $29.95 and for what I get for that money I'm good with it.

Here's the flipside, I paid $60 for FM7 and its friggin' dead as a doornail right now so that's what you get for releasing all your tracks at once...

Oh, I know I'm not alone.

New to posting here, but been here at least 5 years now, lol. Far too many complaints read to see that.

The numbers aren't wrong either. Far less bought this release than GT in it's prime. So, as much as there's many that will just bend over and beg for old content. Many simply walked too.

It is a shame, but that's what happens when you reduce content significantly and force one direction over both taking their rightful place.

I just want GT to be great again, but with too many with your forgiving attitude of acceptance, gaming gets the shaft.

Meh.

(Must note, depression can be a very serious issue, seen it. But yet to experience it. Be a grown up and discuss. But don't be a hateful person).

 

[Nuschel01]

I just want GT to be great again

Somebody else wants to do that with America. Doesn't really work either

 

[Lord of Tranz]

Somebody else wants to do that with America. Doesn't really work either

Lol, bloody entertaining to me, a Brit though.

 

[TonyJZX]

Oh, I know I'm not alone.

There are dozens of us, dozens.

The numbers aren't wrong either. Far less bought this release than GT in it's prime. So, as much as there's many that will just bend over and beg for old content. Many simply walked too.

I dont doubt that one bit but somehow 3.3 million didnt.

It is a shame, but that's what happens when you reduce content significantly and force one direction over both taking their rightful place.

I just want GT to be great again, but with too many with your forgiving attitude of acceptance, gaming gets the shaft.

I agree with this. I have said that all GT6 tracks and premium cars should be here but as far as I've seen FM7 FH3 and GTS have been disappointments in many ways to me this generation.

But I'm realistic in my gaming expectations. I'm no fan of this 9 cars 1 track a few leagues a month but for me, the low low fee of $30, eh I cant complain too much. I knew this coming in... twice now.

 

[xlDevontelx]

I don’t have GT Sport, but the post-release support for this game has been amazing.

 

[Elitekilla29]

Man GT is really smashing it with these updates.

Honestly I thought at first it was silly having the lower content count at launch but its pretty clever, these constant updates keep them in the news, it gives people excuses to try new content and people feel nice because its all free(well aside from ps+).

A lot of this stuff should've already been in the game though from the start. They did the same thing with GT6. Took everything off that gt5 had and gt6 released and it was barbones. Then they had to add everything back in updates which took forever.

 

[BasherB59]

Regarding the various comments about the re-release of "old" GT series content. Everything in this game has (I believe) had to be done again, virtually from scratch. The Level of detail on the cars is truly amazing , but given the current Technology race for Bigger, Brighter, more K's the better TV's . Will all of the data PD currently has for these Vehicles / Tracks, actually be enough for GT7 on (perhaps) the PS5, a couple of years down the line ?? If we the customers / players are then buying 8k / 16k Ultra super-duper HD Tellys ?

 

[Lord of Tranz]

There are dozens of us, dozens.



I dont doubt that one bit but somehow 3.3 million didnt.



I agree with this. I have said that all GT6 tracks and premium cars should be here but as far as I've seen FM7 FH3 and GTS have been disappointments in many ways to me this generation.

But I'm realistic in my gaming expectations. I'm no fan of this 9 cars 1 track a few leagues a month but for me, the low low fee of $30, eh I cant complain too much. I knew this coming in... twice now.

Fair enough. I certainly see your point too. Just feel it's a good to continue to highlight these complaints I have, as you said, it's not the first time, or game to do these things.

But I do feel people are starting to become more aware and only hope a better balance can be found in future.

Peace out.

Regarding the various comments about the re-release of "old" GT series content. Everything in this game has (I believe) had to be done again, virtually from scratch. The Level of detail on the cars is truly amazing , but given the current Technology race for Bigger, Brighter, more K's the better TV's . Will all of the data PD currently has for these Vehicles / Tracks, actually be enough for GT7 on (perhaps) the PS5, a couple of years down the line ?? If we the customers / players are then buying 8k / 16k Ultra super-duper HD Tellys ?

I agree to the point. Absolutely anything that comes with this game or future one's must be up to standards of current times, mostly. (Some games don't need graphics to sell, this does, lol).

But the way you make it sound there, GT7 will be very small to start, lol.

Sooner wait and pick it up after everything is added. But I prefer the variety and a full game. Not do a little, wait in hope it's popular enough to get given the rest.

 

[C-ZETA]

Group Cs! Le Mans! The Evo 4! Everything is fine.

 

[Auditore]

Now we need Toyota Celica. Bring more classics race cars, PD!

That will probably come in the rally update

Not too keen about this as I try to avoid giving away personal data wherever possible and entering fake stuff defeats the point here, especially on the age part

The Real Privacy Breacher Simulator?

 

[NotThirdReich]

I don't think anyone might've noticed it yet (they're all focused on Le Mans and Gr.1), maybe wait for the update details?

Am I missing something? What is the deal with tire models? They look just fine? The only tire model needing to be fixed is the one in the pits.

 

[BrunusCL82]

So, Group C will be useless in Sport Mode?

 

[RickyGT]

I'm loving all the updates as they are all free and that's a unicorn situation in videogames nowadays, but I am a bit disappointed by the fact that the Group C hasn't been split from the other Group 1, while it made perfectly sense. I haven't tested them yet, but even if these Gr.C were as fast as the Gr.1, it wouldn't make sense as we all know that would be a lie. Who knows, maybe they will split them in a mid-term update, at least I hope so

 

[warp9engage]

I know what track the belong on buddly. That is the only track I've talked about.

The laptime data you used to support your argument was entirely false. You used '17 laps. We don't have '17 cars. It has already been pointed out to you that your Group C numbers are wrong. Neither matters though as IT DID NOT CONTAIN A SINGLE LAP from a car in the game. Now cut the attitude.

Look, you were the one who started with the whole "Deal with it" attitude, so don't come back at me with that.

Let's take a step back and figure out what each of us are arguing here, because I don't think we're on the same page.

I'm arguing the Group 1 BoP is ridiculous because, in real life, the cars in that class are horribly outmatched, compared to each other and, in order for racing to be even, on any track (because you don't only race at Le Mans in GT Sport), they're going to have to do (and are already doing) some pretty artificial and unrealistic performance tweaks on the cars for them to race together. I don't like that artificial performance.

I'm also arguing that, generally speaking, Group C is inferior to LMP1, outside GT Sport and in real life, not inside GT Sport.

I've provided good evidence and solid arguments to back my claims, which you keep calling invalid or ignoring. So I feel like we're not arguing the same thing.

Let's reset. What are you arguing for?

 

[Crazy Taylor]

I just want GT to be great again, but with too many with your forgiving attitude of acceptance, gaming gets the shaft.

It will/should be what you want it to be, but in GT7. This isn't 7 (and is not trying to be). This is GT Sport and the only old thing in it really are the additional cars in updates (all free} and maybe GT League. I think quite a number of people who bought it knew it was online, e-sport focused. Which in this day is a good move forward, likely to be a part of every GT game henceforth.

 

[Satomiblood]

I just want GT to be great again, but with too many with your forgiving attitude of acceptance, gaming gets the shaft.

I appreciate most, if not all, of the content they've been churning out since November. It's unfortunate that you feel as if those of us with more positive attitudes toward GTS are somehow being complacent. This isn't to say that you can't dislike certain things, but I'm not going to apologize for my enjoyment of the game either.