Androoos
This sounds a little more like it...
But how many hours out of a day are you running? 1 or 2? 3 or 4? 8 or 9?
The reason I've brought it up is because I'm curious about which drivers are fast right out of the box, and which put hours and hours and hours into the combo and become fast at the end. Some of us have regular 40-hour-plus-per-week jobs, and some are young kids who don't even have a driver's license, are out of school with nothing to do during the day besides race. Some are college students who don't do anything but race (I'd be in this boat if I were still in college!). Just trying to get a feel for who has what habits.
Overall, I guess I'm just trying to prove a point that lower combo time is inversely proportional to time spent driving. Of course, talent is certainly a variable in the equation. 👍
The absolute most time I've ever put into a combo was the race at Laguna a few weeks ago. I figure for the entire week, I ran for a combined 10 hours there. I can't foresee myself putting any more time into a week's combo than that one. I'm sure there are others out there who are putting much, much more into it than that.
'Droos,
Great discussion! I'm in the 40 hrs a week regular job, 3 and 5 year olds in school/preschool, wife works two days, and maintain a house, tweak on my car, take it to the real racetrack as often as possible, tinker in the garage, plus drive WRS boat.
Generally, I try to get three to four decent sessions in on the wheel a week, mostly something like an hour at a time. I find that I don't gain much after an hour, usually setting my fastest time on day one at an hour, then day two at 30 minutes though still driving for an hour, then on Sunday or Monday night I go fastest at the end of an hour or at most 1.5 to 2 hours in. Add more time if there's settings involved, multiple lap races with AI interaction that affects time, or we're at the 'Ring! :^)
Sometimes, like this week, I'll sneak in 30 minutes to an hour on the DS2 (my cockpit breaks down and takes a few minutes to set up, plus it takes up much of the family room and "counts" as wife "goodwill" time whereas DS2 time doesn't "count" as much since I'm playing on the 13" kids' TV/VCR combo in the corner while everyone else can watch TV or videos. Also full immersion DFP time includes racing gloves and headphones to drown out the gear noises in the wheel so that prevents full parental attention to the rugrats.) to fine tune the line and, though rare, whittle down my time. This week is a rare example of one where I may in fact set my best lap on DS2.
At Laguna, I think I probably put in an average amount of time, maybe 5-6 hours. Started off with the GT for an hour or so, then jumped on the Viper bandwagon for 3 or 4 hours, tried the GT again once it became clear that it MAY be faster in the right hands (not mine it seems) and then back to the Viper and my fast time. I beat you by 0.011" there, BTW. You should have put in 11 hours! :^)
Last week at HSR, I also probably put in 5-6 hours with my fast time coming at the end, Monday night. Thing was that event had tuning, multi lap, tire wear, TCS off advantage, standing start (w/ no TCS)... A HUGE learning curve for me and not to mention my first race in D1. I'm over the moon that I was able to take 2nd in a holl01/Z/toffe-less race. I'm sure if hOt would've put in another hour, he would've creamed me.
One thing I notice looking back over the completed races, Androos, is that until recently you regularly beat me, and by large margins sometimes. Also, I think I've been playing less hours recently, but doing better, so all signs point to I'm actually learning something.
Hopefully, some day, I'll be able to sit down for an hour and do a quick enough lap a-la hOt or veilsidebr that shaving off another 0.2 or so is all I need to podium, however I am still at the stage where I need to shave 1.5 to 2 seconds from my first session time (assuming a 1'30 or so race) to do "well".
Example, at Laguna, my first session in the GT netted me 1'13.985. First Viper session 1'12.721. Final Viper time was 1'12.047.
Opera Paris, first session, 1'16.7, then 1'15.9, then 1'15.0, then finally 1'14.7. I spent quite a bit of time on this track but I was having fun and enjoying the challenge of refining my line and style to continue gaining time. The dropping lap times were "fun driven".
Opposite: RX-7s at Trial Mountain. NOT FUN (for me). 1'34.0, then 1'33.5. I think I basically gave up after only 2-3 hours.
Citta di Aria: 1'58.3 first session. Fun track, very challenging, no tuning to distract. Then 1'56.9, then I got the privilege of watching a FAST lap. Got a minor A-ha and 1'55.480. Still spent some hours, mind you, but the guide replay does help.
I think it in fact did permanent help in that I think I've incorporated some of the driving style and since then I dare to say I'm faster. I SHOULD make it more of a habit to download and watch the submitted laps. Even better would be to return to the track and re-DRIVE it, but by then the next event has started and who wants to do that?
Well, it'd probably help. Hard to find the discipline, but to do better each week, it probably is the best thing to do. I may have to practice what I preach and start doing just that to remain competitive in D1 instead of stagnating in the bottom 1/4.
Sorry to ramble on but this is a great discussion. Hope others chime in.
-SHig