GT4 WRS Week 39 : "My first, my last, my everything"

[MisterWeary]

I usually dread these GT Mode weeks but I seem to be getting some where:

Honda S2000 '01 (Silver with black wheels)
T1: 0'28.946
T2: 1'01.712

And there's the 5 seconds I wanted from my previous splits, I still think there's 1-2 seconds in it. In regard to my setup, I've got nothing special, but here are the things I've changed:

- Driving Aids: 0/0/0
- LSD: 5/5/5
- Transmission: Auto - 9
- Springs 9.0/9.0
- Height: 90/90
- Stabilizers: 5/5
- Brakes: 6/4

Everything else is stock, I've also not put a roll cage in or refreshed the chasis...I'm sure that setup will evolve over the week but it's doing just fine so far 👍

 

[TheWizard]

Here are my splits:

T1: 0'28.336
T2: 1'01.203

Car: Honda S2000 Type V '01 Silver ( ) with stock wheels, 22000+ miles.

Power: 285HP on the dot, in the Setting screen, small graph, as per requirements.

Things changed:

Driving aids: 0/0/0
Gearing: Tranny trick (I know, I know, bite me), Final 4.000

Everything else stock.

I am quite satisfied with my lap, so far, but I know by the end of the week somebody will get a T2 under a minute...

The Wizard.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Here are my splits:

T1: 0'28.336
T2: 1'01.203

Car: Honda S2000 Type V '01 Silver ( ) with stock wheels, 22000+ miles.

Power: 285HP on the dot, in the Setting screen, small graph, as per requirements.

Things changed:

Driving aids: 0/0/0
Gearing: Tranny trick (I know, I know, bite me), Final 4.000

Everything else stock.

I am quite satisfied with my lap, so far, but I know by the end of the week somebody will get a T2 under a minute...

The Wizard.

Heheh, all fair in love and war right? I won't judge ya dude, I just don't use it

jump_ace

 

[VTRacing]

Anyway, WTF is a PS anyway?

We all talk in Bhp, not some obscure bleeding unit that needs to be explained to everyone you mention it to.

Neil

The standard measure in Australia (at least for the younger generation) is the kiloWatt (kW). Mind you, older types involved in motorsport still use bhp.

PS is "German" horsepower, measured slightly differently to "brake" horsepower.

 

[MisterWeary]

The standard measure in Australia (at least for the younger generation) is the kiloWatt (kW). Mind you, older types involved in motorsport still use bhp.

PS is "German" horsepower, measured slightly differently to "brake" horsepower.

Good to see ya back VT, hope you're racing this week

 

[Jump_Ace]

Here are my splits:

T1: 0'28.336
T2: 1'01.203

Car: Honda S2000 Type V '01 Silver ( ) with stock wheels, 22000+ miles.

Power: 285HP on the dot, in the Setting screen, small graph, as per requirements.

Things changed:

Driving aids: 0/0/0
Gearing: Tranny trick (I know, I know, bite me), Final 4.000

Everything else stock.

I am quite satisfied with my lap, so far, but I know by the end of the week somebody will get a T2 under a minute...

The Wizard.

Heheh, all fair in love and war right? I won't judge ya dude, I just don't use it

Honda S2000 Type-V '01 (Gray and NOT yellow...*sigh*)

EDIT: ()'s are my goals.
T1 - 28.640 (28.250, seen a 28.3xx before too)
T2 - 1:00.955 (1:00.5xx)

Settings: Well here's goes:

First off, its better with the LSD installed IMO.
Second, I tried something new; I upped the LSD Deceleration thingy to level 10. So if I'm thinking right, it will help slow down the car faster and I can start to brake just a *touch* later. So now my LSD settings are at 5/5/10 (although I dunno if it really helped a lot)

Brakes: 5/5 (also did 10/10 and felt no difference...hhmm...)
Tranny Auto 9, Final 4.000 (to help with the front straight and NOT shifting into 6th)

Spring Rate: 9.0/8.0
Ride Height: 90/95
All other suspension stock

No Driving Aids
N3 Tires 👍 First time ever driving on these tires and the car is just so effortlessly SMOOTH! I LOVE IT! I might change my mind Curtis and do this combo up at Bobkarts come February...muhahaha!!!! I love this combo!

I would like to get some feedback on my settings if you think something is better, and explain why so I can get better at this settings stuff 👍

LB Updated Too BTW

jump_ace

 

[jamaican]

first time seeing these competitions... i'm interested. so we can do any modifications as in suspension, transmission, weight reduction, brakes, etc.?

just except turbo, N/A kits, and spoilers... and use normal tires offcourse, and stay below 285hp

 

[TheWizard]

Heheh, all fair in love and war right? I won't judge ya dude, I just don't use it

Well, pretty much everybody I have talked to, or heard a comment from, regarding the "tranny trick" said it can not be considered cheating, as it is just a matter of getting the gears closer together. And since you can do that in real life, why not using it in the game, too?

In real life you are not limited to the standard gear ratios offered in the Settings screen, but you are allowed more freedom and you can have fine tuning.

Therefore I see it as a feature, not as a bug.

Anyway, why did you quote me twice?

Edit!

Anyway, WTF is a PS anyway?

Who the hell would wander up to his bud's and tell 'em 'Hey, you know what my car/bike puts out now i've had it played with, 230PS that's what!'?

No-one!

We all talk in Bhp, not some obscure bleeding unit that needs to be explained to everyone you mention it to.

Super un-cool that would be! Almost as bad as buying one of the new lighter BMW's and having to explain that it's got a carbon fibre roof!

BTW that's not a go at you Wiz, just a rage against the anally-retentive guys at PD who obviously don't live in the real world.

I mean really, why does an Aston Martin DB9 sound as weedy as a Fiat Punto in this game? Honestly!

Neil

Come on now, do not take your frustration due to the S2000 out on the poor b@stards over there at PD

j/k

You are absolutely right. And why should such a f:censored:d up unit be the default one on those screens anyway? And why, if I choose HP, everything else changes accordingly, except for those two screens? Was it so hard for those idiots to make two additional conversions?

Anyway, PS = pferdestarke.

1 PS = 0.986 HP
1 HP = 1.014 PS

Source: Online Conversion. Very useful.

EDIT: I better enjoy this moment, while I am at the top of the temporary leaderboard, because when the top dogs start posting splits, I will fall very quickly down to the bottom of it...

The Wizard.

 

[sar593]

I'm not very good with the settings stuff, but I tried my old school setting (spring rate at max and ride height at min) and the car loses some of it's drifting skills, that's good on some corners, but bad on others, I'll have to try a lot and play with the settings, I have been thinking to put some ballast, does this work for you guys?

 

[Casio]

I'm not very good with the settings stuff, but I tried my old school setting (spring rate at max and ride height at min) and the car loses some of it's drifting skills, that's good on some corners, but bad on others, I'll have to try a lot and play with the settings, I have been thinking to put some ballast, does this work for you guys?

I've never used ballast, it's negatives far outweigh the positives, in my opinion.

I'm pretty hopeless at tuning, but what I do is drive the car stock for a few laps, and see how it behaves, get a time down. Then I usually drop the ride hieght a few clicks off min, and see how it behaves. Then if it's got too much over/understeer, then can change things little bit by little bit. I mainly only use the camber/stabiliser options to tune. However, this track has a lot of undulations, so maybe really hard springs are not really the way to go.

 

[jamaican]

we're using N3 tires right?

and, i take it that the concrete on the outside of some corners don't count as the track

 

[TheWizard]

Yes, any N tires, but everybody that is smart enough will use N3

No, they don't count.

The Wizard.

 

[Jump_Ace]

T1 - 28.434
T2 - 1:00.868

Probably just about done for the week, I might touch it again come the weekend, we'll see. Kept with my settings, I feel a little boost in performance with the LSD decel at 10, but it could also just be increasin the brakes to leve 10 as well...or me really wanting good settings too Nice to just kinda goof around with the settings tho, I found that setting the rear toe to positive 1 make the car drift too much and I couldn't accelerate soon enough in this car. I upped the toe camber a few notches in front and rear but found little difference so I put them back to stock. Broke a nice barrier I thought wouldn't happen tonite 👍

LB Updated

And on a little side note, not everyone listed out which car they bought so if its wrong on the leaderboard, feel free to shoot me a pm or post it.

jump_ace

 

[shockwaveracing]

Ok, then we have to mod the car to where it reaches 285HP max...

My mistake, I thought that all the cars where supposed to reach 285HP after all the legal parts were applied.

Boy, did I pick the wrong week to come back
The car is all over the place... This is going to be a hell of a ride (literally)

The Wizard.

yeah i didn't even go to the oil cjange coz i had a feeling it would give me too much power and thus not be allowed, at least it has b een clarified now...

 

[kart.no.38]

28.251
1.00.833

Honda S2000 Type V '01

 

[Tyre King]

Just keep Jump mad!

In my YELLOW S2000 V '01

T1 29.043
T2 1'01.935

Still playing with the LSD and suspension, so not gonna post 'em

Neil

 

[JIMB]

After about a half hour.....

T1:30.603

T2:1'08.485

 

[MisterWeary]

I may have new splits...if the following pictures are deemed clean I'm confident my lap is clean, I've taken photos in 5 consecutive places on the apex of the corner in question (you can see I've put a red circle around a reference point for all pictures):



I know it looks like I'm heading further into the concrete but I assure you the drift is back towards the road at this point. If these are clean then here are my new splits:

T1: 0'28.961
T2: 1'01.716
Finish: 1'xx.xx5

I know the splits look similar to my old ones but I cut almost 0.3 off the finish with an ending I'll be hard pressed to ever replicate.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Alright that settles it, I MUST get a 28.3xx T1 to keep up with Kart and the others. I was afraid of that

@Colby, looks like you are JUST BARELY legal there man, IMO.

LB Updated

jump_ace

 

[Kent]

An odd lap for me that I messed up but still pretty fast.

28.311
1'01.0??

Clean and I think I nailed the final section (not like "kart" would though).

Still, all of my 1'00.??? times have been right about as fast as my current save of 1'01.0??

So, I think I've got a keeper for now, although I must admit that my super-special, mega-fast, top secret, "original" settings are easily taking me to faster times than I thought I would be able to achieve this week.

Very fun race Flat-out.
If you had half the fun with "there is no spoon" that I am having with this one then I would hope to say we are even (if not to say I am in debt to you).

 

[T13R]

So, the only thing that can be accurate is the Lap Time on certain tracks (such as the Ring or Laguna or Tsukuba).

...

I've recently run the C5 Z06 around the Ring on both N1 and N2 tires....

N1 was the most accurate because I drove a 8'15 roughly.
N2 was the closest to "record" real world time at 7'53 (3 seconds faster than the fastest C5 Z06 lap time I've ever seen or heard of).

Sadly neither of them felt like they had even half as much grip as my old Toyota Camry does on turns similar speed and angle.

Judging from lap times from real life circuits cannot be that accurate, and that's where I think we make a mistake on what we think realism is. In real life there aren't many people who will be pushing flat out on every corner, because they know that the smallest mistake means they're gonna crash. In GT4, since it's a game and you have no sense of fear, you can go much quicker than in real life with the same car and same tyres. I honestly think the sports tires are the most realistic because many of the sports cars come with these kinds of tires (and were probably tested this way by PD). The lap times compared to real life might be quicker, but I believe that the difference between the game and real life lies within the lack of fear in the game, being able to be on the limit all the time. If you crash, just quit your session and restart. In real life there is no more session. Think about how many times you may have hit a wall in last week's race, or how many times you should have died or wrecked the car...

I consider the N tires as the crappy tires that come standard on normal cars like all-seasons. S tires are like Bridgestone Potenza SO-3, Toyo T1-R, Advan A048 --> (This is the tire you see in the background in GT4 when looking for (?sport) tires and it is used in Best Motoring tests sometimes)

The combo looks great, and very inspiring. If I don't submit a time this week I'm an idiot.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Fabio's in town...ruh roh! lol.

jump_ace

 

[T13R]

Fabio's in town...ruh roh! lol.

jump_ace

lol, yeah yeah... the slow D1er is back

Atleast before I could be considered simply to be a D1er... but now I'll be a Bronze D1er hehe

 

[TheWizard]

[legal?]

As per the rule that the lap is considered legal as long as a part of each of the two tires is in contact with the allowed portion of the track, then your lap is clean 👍

As it has happened in the past, it does not matter how big the part of the tire that is in contact with the legal part of the track is, just as long as there is some noticeable contact.

From what I can see from those pictures, your lap looks 100% legal to me.

Cyril has the final word on this, as this is only my opinion, though.

The Wizard.

 

[SHigSpeed]

I may have new splits...if the following pictures are deemed clean I'm confident my lap is clean, I've taken photos in 5 consecutive places on the apex of the corner in question (you can see I've put a red circle around a reference point for all pictures):



I know it looks like I'm heading further into the concrete but I assure you the drift is back towards the road at this point. If these are clean then here are my new splits:

T1: 0'28.961
T2: 1'01.716
Finish: 1'xx.xx5

I know the splits look similar to my old ones but I cut almost 0.3 off the finish with an ending I'll be hard pressed to ever replicate.

Looks like my lap at GV in the R32! Looks clean to me...

-SHig

 

[sar593]

Yesterday, on my 1 hour session I manage to get: T1:0'28.3XX and T2: 1'00.9XX, but in different laps
Just a few settings, didn't try the ballast thing, ride height at min and brake balance 3 at the front and 12 at the rear, sure the aids ar off.
Have to try more setting and don't get nervous at the end of a fast lap.

 

[Tedehur]

As per the rule that the lap is considered legal as long as a part of each of the two tires is in contact with the allowed portion of the track, then your lap is clean 👍

As it has happened in the past, it does not matter how big the part of the tire that is in contact with the legal part of the track is, just as long as there is some noticeable contact.

From what I can see from those pictures, your lap looks 100% legal to me.

Cyril has the final word on this, as this is only my opinion, though.

The Wizard.

All 5 pictures show that the tyre is in contact with the rumble strip, so from these 5 pictures I would say that it's legal.

 

[GTrackd02]

Splits... T1 29.399 T-2 103.810
this is on semi race suspension, for some reason i cant get a setup that works for me in full race or original yet

Suggestions?

 

[Jump_Ace]

Splits... T1 29.399 T-2 103.810
this is on semi race suspension, for some reason i cant get a setup that works for me in full race or original yet

Suggestions?

Well in the GT series you don't want to get anything but the best, so I would buy and install the best suspension you can get and leave most everything stock, just lower the ride height some (90/95?) and try the spring rate to 9.0/8.0 if its too aggressive for ya try 7.0/6.0. Be sure u have the LSD installed and try it on 5/5/5 (I suggest trying 5/5/10) I also upped the brakes to level 10 front and rear. Next thing I would try is braking a little earlier to avoid over-drifting the car.


EDIT: Anyone else missing some avatars and signatures today? O well. LB Updated

jump_ace

 

[T13R]

Well in the GT series you don't want to get anything but the best, so I would buy and install the best suspension you can get and leave most everything stock, just lower the ride height some (90/95?) and try the spring rate to 9.0/8.0 if its too aggressive for ya try 7.0/6.0. Be sure u have the LSD installed and try it on 5/5/5 (I suggest trying 5/5/10) I also upped the brakes to level 10 front and rear. Next thing I would try is braking a little earlier to avoid over-drifting the car.


EDIT: Anyone else missing some avatars and signatures today? O well. LB Updated

jump_ace

Yep, I don't see any avatars either, and this text input thinggy looks weird right now.
EDIT: Just noticed there are no sigs... was looking for a link to the leaderboard heh.

BTW Jerome, which car you usin? Which is the best of the four? I would like (I hope) to be competitive this week on a track I like very much.