GT4 WRS Week 5: "Big Apple with a side of rice"

[kennythebomb]

update
T1 36.985
T2 1'02.021

but bet my time by .136 at the line with a fluky finish. unchanged setup DF 30/30 though, BB 3/3.

I'm glad you are using full downforce now, I couldn't believe you weren't using it earlier.

 

[Large_Fryz]

Hi everyone. I'm back to racing.
my times so far this week.

T1 27.290
T2 1'03.974

 

[BreakMastaz]

Just thought i'd post my sector times and setup now that i know how to read them correctly! i've just broke through the T2 .2 sector so

T1- 0.27.357 T2- 1.02.999

I still think theres a large space to improve on that time, but u just gotta pull it off!

SETUP: similar to Holl01's

Full Racing Modifications (except LSD). full weight reduction stage 3.

Brake balance:
front - Rear -
4 5

Suspension:
sring rate 8 5
ride height 128 128
camber 3.5 2.2
Stabiliser 3 5

Gearbox:
Ratio auto14 final 4.449

Driving aids:
ASM 0 TCS 2
Aero:
30 29
Weight Bal:
weight 20
Bal -50

I have no LSD fitted as yet.

I think this weeks is a good combo as i used to hate new york but now i love it!

 

[Mojo Rising]

Hey All,

I put in some laps in at the Rotten, I mean "big" Apple tonight, and came up with:

T1 @ 27.419
T2 @ 1'02.748

I can get consistant 26.9xx on T1 now, but I can't seem to pull together a decent LLRL pre-T2 now. That's where I gain all my damn time. I'm getting better everywhere else, though.

My SRT-4 is black on black wheels and wing. Looks damn good. (for a Neon) Oooohhh!!!

 

[Steve57]

Hi everyone. I'm back to racing.

, we get rid of 3 fast guys to Div2, and this week we have both you and Blackbird back to try and deal with, its a 🤬 conspiracy!!


Just joking guys , welcome back, seems we are all chasing Nat this week , the streets of New York seem to agree with her 👍

 

[MinorShunt]

ok guys, the tranny trick works both ways, the way i posted it, was how i did it. auto to left or auto to right makes no difference.

Just at least try them before you knock them ok.

I agree Small Fryz. I have about the same setup overall as you, but was struggling with finding the correct gearing for coming out of corners. Your tranny trick did the trick. Spot on!

First nite at the Big Apple

T1- 27.263 (off by .2)
T2-1'03.108

Beat my best by .4 with the tranny setup. More to go

MS

 

[kragbees]

I finally got some chance this week to put in a few laps, and it really needs some improvement ... I see most people here as beating my best clean time so far

T1 : 27.8
T2 : 1:03.6

 

[VEXD]

update
T1 36.985
T2 1'02.021

but bet my time by .136 at the line with a fluky finish. unchanged setup DF 30/30 though, BB 3/3.

Bloody hell Holl, that T1 is rubbish.

 

[holl01]

Bloody hell Holl, that T1 is rubbish.

This T1 is rubish 👎 , but i managed to knock off .05 at the line 👍

T1 27.077
T2 1'01.999

DS2

Gave it more camber, seemed to help (2.8/1.8)

 

[Sjaak]

Last night I got a faster time but when I saw the splits I wasn't that happy anymore.

My t1 was slower,27.381 -27.604, and my t2 was faster,1'03.809-1'03.497,but my end time was only one tenth faster.

Lost a lot in the circle.

Seems I'm bounching up and down with my T-times.

T1 27.809
T2 1'03.783 but again 0.15 faster.

Lost a lot in the begin.
In every lap I lose at different places precious time.

 

[Steve57]

If you mean the curbs that stick out in the 90 degree turns, then yes you can cut them. Unless I am forgetting something, the only place off-limits is inside the rumbles in the roundabout. Everything else is OK, except wall contact, or driving through the pits.

Hi , sorry if this has been gone over before, but I need some clarification on the term "cut" as used above . By this I take it, means that you can have all four wheels on the inside of the kerbing. All tyres on the concrete extentions, none on the actual track surface or the kerbing. eg at the third corner after T1.
Not that I would normally condone this type of behaviour, but this week I need all the track i can get . My fastest lap so far,( which i had thought was dirty until reading CFM's quote ), has three wheels inside the kerbing at the righthander, just after T1, only just though, but if it's legal well .

 

[Teledriel]

37's holl ?? you sure those arn't 27's at T1?

 

[VEXD]

Yo man, as far as i see it, and i know that the Crazy Furry Munchkin will put us right eventually, there is one easy way to clarify.

DONT HIT THE WALLS, AND STAY TO THE RIGHT OF THE KERB ON THE ROUNDABOUT.

Everything else, as in kerb cutting, jumping, sliding, reversing (though i cant recommend that) is ok.

Right..... off to try and beat that girly.... damn you fast girly....

 

[Touring Mars]

Yikes...these times are getting scary fast... good work Kolyana... I'm no where near breaking the 1'03 barrier yet...

T1 - 27.442
T2 - 1'03.466

Will play around with the settings - not doing anything to the wheel alignment yet, so hopefully that will help... might have to borrow holl01's settings..

TM

 

[Lotrzyna]

Hi guys

I have some problem with that combo :/
Im using holl setup (from yesterday not from today) Im geting constantly T1 between 27.100 and 27.350 but my best T2 is 1.03.400
Can you tell me what is yours line at L/L/R/L combo ? cos I feel that most of time that Im loosing is right threre :/
Im doing that combo with the line from the doc(sorry 4 doc but I dont have paint in my windows and dont know how to make just strite line in photoshop )
Im doing first L so wide cos if im cuting it than 2 L is almoust imposible to make (IMO)
Also can u tell me what gears do u use on that combo? Im using AT but I can hold any gear with R2 button(as we all know)
Thnx for answers andplease dont laugh at my doc

 

[hOt6o4bOi]

love the street course action, makes me feel like im in Champ Cars 👍

finding all the room in a street course is so hard but challenging and fun.

T1 0'27.017
T2 1'02.057

all without cutting any curbs

 

[ROB 256R]

After playing around with the settings I've managed to improve a bit. Although strangely, my T1's have been getting progressively slower, but my T2's quicker!?! Wierd!?!

T1 - 0'27.519 (poor)
T2 - 1'02.394

Also, i hope you don't mind Luxy, but i added a link for your leaderboard to my sig coz i always have trouble finding it.

 

[Touring Mars]

Oh, O.K.

I'm sure I lost my settings though, maybe I exited at the wrong point.

Cheers anyway
John.

Hello again,

Just for clarification, I noticed something last night that might be throwing a few people... took me a while to realise what was going on...

The settings you change are stored automatically, so there is no need to 'save' your settings like in GT3... BUT, the settings for any given part will change back to their default values if you change the part in question... this is very easy to do inadvertantly, and I was doing it without even realising it...

For somerthing like Suspension, you have two things to choose... the type of part you have installed (i.e. Regular or Racing) and the settings button. But if, say, you have Racing Suspension installed, and merely click on the part, and you don't change it, you are effectively reinstalling the part, and the settings will change back to the default... it's not a bug, but it's a bit silly, since you aren't actually changing the part, just reselecting it, which I sometimes do accidentally...


Anyway, hope this helps... I ran a few laps with my ride height back at default values because of this 'glitch' and was most annoyed when I discovered it..

Cheers,
TM

edit: Spooky, there is a red Chrysler Neon (which I'm assuming is the same as the Dodge SRT??) parked right outside my lab... never seen a real one before

 

[Sjaak]

Yes,I had that problem a few times and came to the same conclusion.

Only click the tool.

 

[Touring Mars]

After playing around with the settings I've managed to improve a bit. Although strangely, my T1's have been getting progressively slower, but my T2's quicker!?! Wierd!?!

T1 - 0'27.519 (poor)
T2 - 1'02.394

Also, i hope you don't mind Luxy, but i added a link for your leaderboard to my sig coz i always have trouble finding it.

Rob, would you mind posting your settings...?? That's a very nice T2...

 

[Teledriel]

Well time to put the basement on the list.

T1 ~ 28.424 (Not bad for a rookie really)
T2 ~ 1' 07.276 (Runs and hides)

DS2

Will be playing around with more stuffies this weekend and Monday, first endevoure into the tuning of GT4, use to be good at my Lance Vii once I had it set, only minor tweeks were needed for it. Hope to gain better knowledge of tuning since see short time to tune a car for a good run will be required alot.

Back to the garage.

 

[SimRaceDriver]

To anyone who can help clarify this, I'd be greatly appreciated...

When you modify/alter your cars LSD or Limited Slip Differential...does the higher you go on the slide rule increase or decrease the tires spinning? Meaning..If I go from say a setting of 40 to 60...would I be increasing the possibility of roasting my tires from either a standing start or exiting a corner?

I will admit that I'm a pretty BIG nOOb at tuning anything on my cars other then ride height & tire selections and after a some time trying to determine this on my own, I'm about ready to throw the PS2/GT4 out the window...

Thx-

SimRaceDriver

 

[ROB 256R]

Rob, would you mind posting your settings...?? That's a very nice T2...

Yeah it does seem pretty good. My T1-T2 time is faster than hot604boi's! (which I'm quite pleased about given the talent he clearly shows) If only i could nail T1 I'd be flying. Here's my settings:

brake b. : 2/3

spring : 7.9/4.9
ride : 137/147
bound : 7/6
rebound : 10/9
camber : 2.0/1.0 (not tried increasing this yet)
stab : 5/3

tranny trick with final @ 3.700
ASM : 1/1
TCS : 4

Downf. : 30/26
LSD : 10/46/15

weight balance : -10

 

[CFM]

To anyone who can help clarify this, I'd be greatly appreciated...

When you modify/alter your cars LSD or Limited Slip Differential...does the higher you go on the slide rule increase or decrease the tires spinning? Meaning..If I go from say a setting of 40 to 60...would I be increasing the possibility of roasting my tires from either a standing start or exiting a corner?

I will admit that I'm a pretty BIG nOOb at tuning anything on my cars other then ride height & tire selections and after a some time trying to determine this on my own, I'm about ready to throw the PS2/GT4 out the window...

Thx-

SimRaceDriver

The higher the number of the LSD setting, the more the two wheels are 'locked' together, i.e. the less the two speeds of the wheels are allowed to differ. Imagine that you had both wheels connected by a solid axle and each wheel was bolted to the axle, both wheels would have to turn at the same speed at all times. That would be similar to the highest LSD setting. An 'open' differential, where each wheel is free to turn at completly different speeds with no mechanical interference, would be very similar to the LSD setting of 5/5/5. The closer to 'locked', the less wheelspin is likely and more powerful acceleration occurs, but it will be difficult to turn, and a FWD car will power understeer so to speak. The closer to 'open' the LSD is, the easier it will be for the outside wheel to grip the corner, because most of the power is being sent to the inside wheel during the corner, most likely smoking like there's no tomorrow.

By changing the initial, decel, and accel settings, you can have the diff act how you want under each condition. I think initial is the action while coasting (no throttle) and the general overall feel of the diff. Accel and decel are how the diff acts under power and while slowing down obviously. So there you go, get yer monkey wrench out.👍

 

[Canoe]

To anyone who can help clarify this, I'd be greatly appreciated...

When you modify/alter your cars LSD or Limited Slip Differential...does the higher you go on the slide rule increase or decrease the tires spinning? Meaning..If I go from say a setting of 40 to 60...would I be increasing the possibility of roasting my tires from either a standing start or exiting a corner?

I will admit that I'm a pretty BIG nOOb at tuning anything on my cars other then ride height & tire selections and after a some time trying to determine this on my own, I'm about ready to throw the PS2/GT4 out the window...

Thx-

SimRaceDriver

I always understood that as long as the driving tires are in full grip contact and the car is traveling in a straight line the differential may as well not even be in the car. The car in effect has a solid drive axle. Elimination of wheel spin from a standing start has to be done with throttle control, or TCS (driving aid).

The differential only compensates for the driving wheels traveling at different speeds. For example... the outside wheel travels faster and farther when going around a corner... if one tire looses grip because of racing surface changes... or, if one tire becomes airborne and looses contact with the racing surface. These all cause the driving wheels to rotate at different speeds and the differential will be used.

 

[Tyre King]

@ Rob

It is my understanding that unless you actually ADD some ballast weight to the car, moving the weight bal setting has no effect at all. Tried playing around with it when trying to get the yellow bird to corner round seoul central, and it made NO difference at all until i added ballast!

Neil

 

[ROB 256R]

@ Rob

It is my understanding that unless you actually ADD some ballast weight to the car, moving the weight bal setting has no effect at all. Tried playing around with it when trying to get the yellow bird to corner round seoul central, and it made NO difference at all until i added ballast!

Neil

Oh right. I kinda wondered about that. Thanks. Could of swore i felt an improvement though. Must be in my head

 

[Tyre King]

Mind you, the yellow-bird IS an absolute mare to get to handle around any street course. So could be wrong, but my best mate, who is also addicted to racing in gt mode (but won't join in wrs at the mo coz of work commitments, and wanting to complete gt mode before me) agrees, it makes no diff unless you add weight.

Neil

 

[SimRaceDriver]

The higher the number of the LSD setting, the more the two wheels are 'locked' together, i.e. the less the two speeds of the wheels are allowed to differ....

Thanks for the response there CFM! I'll have to get out the monkey wrench and start playing around some more w/these settings...oh boy..sounds like fun!

 

[Sjaak]

Finally a lap with times for all sectors that I want.

T1 27.361

T2 1'03.330

Btw with default LSD,seems for me the best choice.