GT4 WRS Week 54 : "Mulsanne insane"

[MisterWeary]

WANTED: Suggestions on what to do for the Leaderboard this week

 

[shockwaveracing]

maybe the fastest T2, T4 and T6 that you achieve...

i have put 6 hours (which is three times as much as what i did in last weeks race) into this for 2, yes 2, clean completed races...

another 5-10 seconds left in it... could do another lap and a half nearly if we were required to race for 30 minutes

 

[SHigSpeed]

Man shockwave! 6 hours already? Working out the monkeys for sure this week!

I wonder if racing on RH/RH for the full 8 laps would be faster than RM/RM and a pit? I haven't checked to see what the pit delay time is, but it may work out, but then again it may not...

I'll try to at least do a submittable race for sure this week since it's a qual week "over there"...

-SHig

 

[Randymcchickenf]

I wonder if racing on RH/RH for the full 8 laps would be faster than RM/RM and a pit? I haven't checked to see what the pit delay time is, but it may work out, but then again it may not...

you are requested to do at least one pit stop during the race.

does that answer your question/statement/general wondering?

 

[SHigSpeed]

does that answer your question/statement/general wondering?

Heh... DUH! RTFM...

Thanks,

-SHig

 

[Tedehur]

Heh... DUH! RTFM...

Thanks,

-SHig

Dumb question from a non native speaker : does RFTM stand for Read The Friggin Manual ?

 

[Tyre King]

I agree, 9-10 laps would make it 30 minutes long for me too.
Seems I am a better endurance driver than hot-lapper.

I have 3 clean races under the belt in 2 hrs or so. Smooth, safe and quick, not riding the edge of reason & adhesion and really quick (but off more times than on).

I also agree that RS/RM gives this car a very unsettling 'attitude', especially on the right sweeper into Indianapolis @ 200+ mph!

Might try RS/RS and nurse them for a lap, as Holl said.

Neil

 

[MADFORCE]

Special : all tarmac, concrete and cobblestones areas are legal. Only walls, grass and sand are off-track

does this mean that i am allowed to drive behind the curbs?



sorry, i am german and i doesnt understand all things that were said

 

[Tyre King]

does this mean that i am allowed to drive behind the curbs?



sorry, i am german and i doesnt understand all things that were said

Would have expected you to at least understand BMW!

I'm sure that's a 2CV!

Anyway, "2 wheels on tarmac" is the key here, yes you can drive behind the curbs as long as 2 wheels are on the hard stuff!

Neil

 

[MADFORCE]

hehe, i just borrowed this picture, sure i will take that BMW

but thx for information

 

[SHigSpeed]

Dumb question from a non native speaker : does RFTM stand for Read The Friggin Manual ?

Friggin', yeah, that's the word I had in mind...

Yup, you got the intention behind the acronymn!

-SHig

 

[Laurence5905]

WANTED: Suggestions on what to do for the Leaderboard this week

Well, this is my first multi-lap WRS race, so I really have no clue what's been done before...

But I was thinking we post the total times at the ends of laps 2, 4, and 6. Not the time of each individual lap, but the total time that we've run at the ends of those laps. (For example, if it took you 3'03.123 to make lap 1 and 3'02.256 on lap 2 you'd post 6.05.379 as your Lap 2 split. Then whatever your times for lap 3 and 4 are would be added to your lap 2 split to be posted as your Lap 4 split, etc., etc...)

Does that make sense? As long as we're not discussing total race time, that should be OK, right?

 

[Thotozam AZ-1]

^^ sounds very good, but it says no lap time disscussion (I know you were trying to avoid that). Maybe T6 of laps 2 4 and 6? That way we aren't posting the "lap times", but still go along the lines of Laurence's idea.

 

[Tedehur]

On long multi-lappers we usually can post the fastest lap. But it doesn't help much as far as the board is concerned since that lap time highly depends on the strategy.
Perhaps we can allow discussion of some fixed laps like we do usually about T times. Something like lap 1, lap 4 and lap 7. Or the fastest and the slowest laps... or anything else that seems relevant.

@ Madforce : ja, wir können den ganzen Rennbahn gebrauchen : Beton, Pflastersteinen, Rüttelstrecken u.s.w.

 

[Jump_Ace]

WANTED: Suggestions on what to do for the Leaderboard this week

I think in the past we did just the fastest lap for the race, and I was thinking MAYBE we could add up our laps and come up with an average lap to post as well so we can compare two items; fastest lap and lowest avg lap too. What do u think Colby? Anyone else like to try it? Oh and yes, there is some math involved here. Everyone would figure out their own average lap and post it along with the fastest lap of the race. Just a thought.

Jerome

 

[Tedehur]

I think in the past we did just the fastest lap for the race, and I was thinking MAYBE we could add up our laps and come up with an average lap to post as well so we can compare two items; fastest lap and lowest avg lap too. What do u think Colby? Anyone else like to try it? Oh and yes, there is some math involved here. Everyone would figure out their own average lap and post it along with the fastest lap of the race. Just a thought.

Jerome

Average laptime is a very bad idea because it requires some calculation, and it's very easy once it's been posted to multiply by 8 (the number of laps) to get the exact race time.
So : one lap or some selected laps, yes ; an average lap time, no.

 

[Jump_Ace]

okay I can see that point, no biggie. Thx Cyril, oh and how many languages do you speak anyway? heheh.

jump_ace

 

[Tedehur]

oh and how many languages do you speak anyway? heheh.
jump_ace

If you mean properly : not many I'm afraid. But I know a little bit of several languages and I must admit that writing is much easier than speaking.


Rule clarifications
Further to some questions that I've been asked in week 53 submission PMs, I wanted to post some clarifications :

• the compulsory pit stop must be done before the beginning of lap 8. You can't cross the checkered flag in the pits.
• the deadline is 9pm GMT, which means one hour from now. Not one hour ago.

 

[Kent]

I think it would be best to post a single "after mid-lap" T time for 3 laps.

Which laps?

We could go with the 2, 4, 6 idea and get an idea of the consistancy of laps for each racer. We could also use 1, 3, and 5 or 7 as to have an idea of possible consistancy as well as first lap T times.

My proposal:
Only T4 or T5 on laps 1, 3, and 5.

(also leaves room for mysterious 6,7,8th lap shockers)

 

[Super T]

Looks like this should be a good week, just had two attempts at a this weeks challenge. Both turned out to be dirty, damn.

I'm gonna have to calm down in the braking area at the end of the Mulsanne straight. My main problem is keeping a good line through the last couple of sectors. I'm sure with a bit more practice I'll at least be able to keep up with the rest of division two.

Nice to see even the quick guys were struggling to start with, shows that they might actually be human after all!

 

[fasj6418]

any chance of the 2 week thing? even with week 55 posted normally like the guys wanted?

just curious

 

[DRIVEN -USA-]

I like this. Did a "little" testing last night. At first the car was a handfull but after a few laps, figured out how to "drive" the durn thing. (twitchy is the right word for this thing)
Fast lap 3'09.xxx But more to come off after getting used to it for sure.

 

[Tedehur]

any chance of the 2 week thing? even with week 55 posted normally like the guys wanted?

just curious

I'd like to avoid having 2 deadlines on the same date.
So the remaining options are :

1. one week only for this race
2. two weeks for this race and week 55 posted when this one ends
3. 12 days for this race (until sunday 7th) and week 55 posted on schedule

Do we need a poll for that ?

Edit :
We now have a poll for that, which will stay open for 2 days only.

 

[Kent]

Hey driven...
Not sure about it but refferencing your "fast lap" even in time trial may be off-limits.
Not sure what policy is on that (been a while since I was very active here).

No matter, if there is damage to be done by that then it has already happend.

In any case, I headed off to vote on the 2 week thing. 👍
Also, I will be back when I have some T times for the group here.
I'm sure they will not be fast but hopefully able to keep up with some of D2.

Till I've got times to contribute,
-

 

[MisterWeary]

Righty-O...well I've just finished a race, I was pretty cautious while trying to keep some speed, just so I could be certain I have a completed race, I'll look for more speed during the week:

- AI Difficulty: Set to 0
- AI Tyres: RSH/RSH
- Power: + 8% = 650hp
- Weight: -10% = 855kg
- Top Speed: 380km/h
- My Tyres: RS/RM
- Aids: None (Not sure about this, over rumbles she's twitchy)

Lap 1 - T6: 2'48.732
Lap 3 - T6: 2'41.325
Lap 5 - T6: 3'09.279 (After pit lap)
Lap 7 - T6: 2'42.359

I suspect I still have 30-40 seconds to find but this'll do for now 👍

Board Initiated

I think there would be two ways to go with the leaderboard, I've chosen the way that would tally all the T6's together. Although it's a bit more clunky it provides more detailed info, the other way would look like this:

If ya'll think the above one is better than the current one, let me know and I'll change it 👍

 

[AngelCreator]

I think the lower one looks the best. Now that would be T6 on laps 1,3,5 and 7?
If thats how it works I think that ok:tup:.

 

[Laurence5905]

I think there would be two ways to go with the leaderboard, I've chosen the way that would tally all the T6's together. Although it's a bit more clunky it provides more detailed info, the other way would look like this:

If ya'll think the above one is better than the current one, let me know and I'll change it 👍

Although the one above looks better, the one that you're using now is more accurate -- the sum of the T6 times is a more accurate indicator of where we all are, rather than just comparing the single T6 time from Lap 7.

If there were a way to get the T-times to add together horizontally, so there was an extra column in there with the sum, then that would probably be the best look, without losing the accuracy of the current one.

 

[MisterWeary]

If there were a way to get the T-times to add together horizontally, so there was an extra column in there with the sum, then that would probably be the best look, without losing the accuracy of the current one.

The only way would be to manually add each person's splits, which might be cool?!? It's easy enough for me to do, I can make a spreadsheet to add them for me....gonna update it now...............

 

[Laurence5905]

Well, here are my first splits...

T1: 2'49.162
T3: 2'43.478
T5: 3'10.496 (pitted at the end of Lap 4/beginning of Lap 5)
T7: 2'42.894

Very fun combo!! I set the AI to +10 and ran them on RSS tires, so they'd have to pit a lot more often. (Finished more than one minute ahead of the nearest AI competitor, and the passing all occurs on the long straight, so it's very easy -- draft them and scoot by them very fast.) I ran 380 gears, which got me 218 MPH down the long straight. And I ran RS tires front-and-rear, because it seems like if you mix compounds the car just doesn't handle right, IMHO. I was able to pit at exactly the halfway mark on RS tires, so it worked out perfectly...

And with the AI being set to +10, I got 141 A-spec points from the win!

Now I just need to clean up my driving style a bit on this track -- I'm quite certain that the last curvy section (the last minute of each lap) is where I'm losing most of my time... So I just need to work on that a bit...

But overall, this car is really not too hard to drive, as long as you have the same tire compound front and rear... This is going to be a FUN week!

 

[Laurence5905]

The only way would be to manually add each person's splits, which might be cool?!? It's easy enough for me to do, I can make a spreadsheet to add them for me....gonna update it now...............

I'm wondering, also, if we shouldn't take the T6 times from ALL 8 laps, rather than just from 1, 3, 5, 7. This would allow everyone's times to be more accurate -- if you pit at the beginning of Lap 5, your time on the leaderboard is going to be WAY off, compared to someone who pits at the beginning of Lap 6.

If we take the T6 time from all 8 laps, then it doesn't matter when you pit, you're always going to have one T-time that's "way off." Does that make sense?