GT4 WRS Week 9: "Talking Dirty - With an Accent"
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lotus350Anyone else getting this, in this thread?
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edit: Current splits (first clean lap)
18.478
46.055
1:20.526
- 3,279
- UK
- GTP_VEXD
Mr PI will send you my dumped replay later today Vexd .... I was using stock top speed of 260 👍
Good luck
Yo Phattman!! thanx mate.
Holy Dumped Data!!
i may get some kinda line figured out after all.....
By the loox of things, the DS2 has a clear advantage this week, hence the chipped one is using it too..... tut tut fryz me lad.
I will persevere with my trusty DFP, and i expect some allowances for using it, so i will now be announcing the following:
I AM GOING TO BE SLOWER THAN NORMAL, BECAUSE I AM USING MY USUAL CONTROLLER METHOD, WHICH I HAVE DEEMED IS A MORE DIFFICULT WAY TO DRIVE THE DAMNED HY AND DRY AROUND THE MOUNTAIN.
There.
I expect to be at the bottom of Div. 1 this week, and possibly demoted too.
Cushty.
Have fun racing people, see you all in a few hours...
And thanx very much for the info Di, 210KPH IT IS. 👍 or is it 260......
- 828
- Midwest, USA
- Turismo-Z
Small_Fryz210 seems to be good mate.
go over start finish line, then when you come to the bit on the left when the track cuts left you brake and down to 2nd, keep to the inside. over the bridge then flick it left and keep to the inside. Drift out a bit and hit 3rd, now if your skilled you can take the next right flat, changing to 4th midway, and also flicking the car left onto the tarmac and still being smooth. With a DS2 i can do this but not DFP. come into the tar hairpin and brake to 3rd, keeping to the inside rumple the whole way, then accerlerating asap and up to 4th, 5th round the slight right and take the next left flat and hit 6th on exit. this corner is tricky, but you brake and down to 5th and cut straight as you can and go into the dirt, keeping off both wallshead down the fast straight hitting 6th, then tap brake and hit 5th and yank the car left and go through that corner full throttle. Now depending on how you come out you need to brake nice and early down to 2nd gear and exit the tight right far on the right, then you can take the next left on the inside and exit nicely for the next right where you stay to the inside because of the jump. this is 2nd and 3rd. now after you land you go straight and then you notice the track narrows on the right, so be careful not to hit it, and you also need to be sliding as you past that, braking down to 2nd for the left. Keep to inside and try not to exit wide then flick the car back around and keep to the inisde again, grabbing 3rd once you exited. past T3, grap 4th i think then you brake down to 3rd and swing the car around for the long long left and get lots of angle and you should be able to take it flat in 3rd with nice angle. After that you have a short straight then a right kink, not sure how to take this but tap brake and nice slide should suffice, over the jumps trying not to get crossed up. then for the last s bend, i brake to 4th for the left and take it flat in 4th then swing the car round for the right and cut nice and close to the inside. There you done a lap!!.
Hey vexd, Smallz beat me to the post and his write-up is a good one.
I'll mention one thing I do differently since you asked..
From start/finish, I brake down to 3rd gear for the bridge instead of 2nd. If I come in a hair short and need to blip the throttle to position me on the bridge correctly, I tend to over-rev in 2nd and get pushed off the line for my left onto the dirt. 3rd keeps the throttle less sharp for me (since I'm not able to be very smooth with a DS2). Was once wondering how Werner, etc. were managing T1's in the 16's, but this seems to work well. You can grab 4th extra quick if you start to oversteer in 3rd when you get back on the dirt for some stability. Tighten the gearing to 210 and it won't bog under this condition.
No new updates for me, really.. hit 43.5 @ T2 a few times, but couldn't finish out those laps. I'll be cursing that downhill R-L-R-L-Rounder-Rounder by the week's end, no doubt.
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Z.
I figured this out as well. 3rd gear into the right over the bridge helps you with less wheelspin, so you can control the sliding a little better.
It was driving me nuts, flying in there in 2nd, I would figure I had a good angle on the car, then the tires that were slipping on the gravel would grip on that wooden bridge and fling me right around and into the bridge wall. Now that I am down in 3rd gear, its easier for me to set the car up to go over the bridge and make the immediate left back onto the gravel. 👍
kennythebomb
GREAT write up, Kenny!
AND...I wished you were right and they cancelled this weeks rallye....I had some really good times thrown in the bin as I touched one of those invisible walls and only noticed in the replay
......I'm 100% sure other racers will have the same issues... 
- 1,325
- Washington State
UPDATED TIMES:
T1: 18.217
T2: 45.692
T3: 1'18:370
T1: 18.217
T2: 45.692
T3: 1'18:370
- 828
- Midwest, USA
- Turismo-Z
Sjenkwoow Z, calm down
Finally time to practise a bit, I'll be posting my best laptime in a few hours
I'm trying.. but, I see faster splits running through my head of and I'm like 'ah, sob..' and then the voices.. the voices! They tell me to go faster. Blame them.
Somehow managed to take the final turns (from the top of the uphill after T3 -> finish) in 5th and shaved tons of time. Still room for more, but it's hard to not clip anything.
Z.
I couldnt agree more. On a lap I would be doing great (by my standards) and then clip the wall in a way that doesnt affect the direction or placement of the car at all and I have to scrap that lap. Although eventually I hope to learn from this to be able to handle a rallye car with superb (again by my standards) control.
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- Washington State
- 828
- Midwest, USA
- Turismo-Z
vtec_guy
Hear you there, man.. big time! My restart:completed lap ratio is just climbing and climbing. Probably about 30:5 right now.. heh
GT3 was so much easier, looking back on things. There are plenty of reasons for that, but I'm slowly adjusting to the new physics. I think I started out on Swiss Alps in GT4 seeing as it's pretty simplistic -- the Midfield Raceway of rally, if you will. There's so much room to mess up and still pull a decently fast lap that it made a great practice setting. And there's a bridge in the middle, so you'd still get to feel that kind of scenario out. The turn after the bridge which requires some very immediate flipping of the car pretty much taught me the concept of getting through the downhill R-L-R-L section on Cathedral (although cathedral's section is much more rewarding when done correctly).
That may work for some of you who just don't have the hang of it yet, but might also throw some off by switching back and forth between tracks.. just an idea I thought I'd throw out there for you guys..
Also.. a question for CFM: Coming into the final left -> right -> finish . . . it's very easy to clip the dirt mound during the left, but you can't really tell in replays and (sometimes) can't see any loss of MPH in the analyzer, but I can feel myself graze something.. same thing can happen on the the R-L-R-L section, but can't really tell it's happening in replays. These are considered dirty laps, yes?
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Yeah, in the analyzer I believe you can use the right analog stick to "zoom" in and out on the time line to see minute changes in speed.
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- SHigSpeed
Grrr... Can't seem to get anywhere on this track. Too many darned invisible walls and no traction. I gotta give props to all those who not only go clean but drop down in the 1:15's and lower. I can't seem to even get a dirty sub 1:20!
I think I may try to beat Mission 34 this week... :^(
-Scott
I think I may try to beat Mission 34 this week... :^(
-Scott
- 766
- Poland
- Lotrzyna
Small_Fryz
Thank you s_Fryz
great piece of information Hmm will have to test 210 (i was using 220 so far) also after bridge im doing all flat-out till that long left turn - here Im loosing couple of tenths as I can see
than till second left hander in T2 all the same way - will have to work hard on T2 to T3 fragment :/Also right turn before hops is better to take with slight breaking than flat-out but thats just IMO ;-)
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vtec_guy
I believe it's the corner with the sand on the left leaking onto the track.
By the way thanks everyone who liked my story 👍
- 1,325
- Washington State
vtec_guy
Vtec_Guy:
There is only one long left hander you take while still on actual asphalt/tarmac...before heading back onto the dirt...and it is this left hander that CFM is referring to...
If you still need a screen shot, let me know and I'll get it for you in a bit...(eating lunch now!
)SRD:
PS: To anyone that knows...if this left hander is NOT be *cut*...then what about the very next right turn...right before going from tarmac to dirt? Is that considered part of the track? Can it be cut? I'm assuming so since it has not been brought up yet....Then again, I hate to assume anything!
Thx
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Times so far:
T1: 0:17.567
T2: 0:45.246
T3: 1:18.450
Ive checked my replay and I did not see any wall contact so I belive they are 100% legit.
this was done with a DS2
T1: 0:17.567
T2: 0:45.246
T3: 1:18.450
Ive checked my replay and I did not see any wall contact so I belive they are 100% legit.
this was done with a DS2
