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I hate people who complain about Top Gear being too silly.. It's always about cars and it really is one of the best things on tv these days. Its a family event in our house watching TopGear on a Sunday night :)
Was hoping they would show some GT5 in the next series like they did with GT4 at Laguna Seca but this deal with Forza will put a stop to that :(
 
trk29
You know whats crazy. Dale Jr. plays (what iracing)? And then he was been on camera talking about GT5 and then out of the blue there is a Jeff Gordon challenge incorporated in GT5 who saw that one coming?



Yeah that is weird.
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According to NASCAR's marketing Director, Dale Jr actually approached them and said they really need to look into Polyphony Digital. So for a guy who's play and praised iRacing to make that sort of recommendation is truly special.
 
happycorey
The most recent is pretty good. I thought that both F1 and British sport car stories ended too sad. I like more uplifting Top Gear episodes. But I want to get back to the amphibious car challenges, the convertible people carriers, things like that. I loved those.
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Agreed. My favorite episodes are the ones with "project" segments. Series 8 is my favorite.

On point: So Forza has a deal with Top Gear... So? As far as I'm concerned, TG isn't what makes GT, so why are people so mad that Forza has a deal with them now...? Eh, guess I'll never understand.
 
Maybe Top Gear isn't that analytical as Fifth Gear, maybe it's silly sometimes, but for me it is entertaining and you can fell love to cars they have. II think it goes well with recent "we love cars" from GT ;)
Again we are going off-topic. Any news from London?
 
Pakt Sardine
so why are people so mad that Forza has a deal with them now...?
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Because it's a perceived threat. Sony and PD came out a long time ago about the integration of TG and GT...everyone knew it was going to be included. Now along comes MS in the 11th hour, so to speak, and announces their own TG integration. Unless you've been living in a cave for the last couple years, you know that it isn't past MS to try and lock up some sort of exclusivity. This is what people are afraid of. It doesn't affect GT5, but it could affect 6 or 7 or anything else Sony/PD decide to do, *IF* MS actually secures some sort of exclusivity. Plus, some people just don't like MS trying to outdo Sony. Let them have it, doesn't bother me as long as it all stays open to every console.
 
Pakt Sardine
Agreed. My favorite episodes are the ones with "project" segments. Series 8 is my favorite..
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I think 8, 10, and 12 were my favorites. Or that I have saved on my PS3 the most favorite episodes that happen to be from those seasons.

I always thought though that Vietnam was basically the definition of Top Gear. Pretty much about the cars (due to the quirky things they do) but it captured the personalities of Clarkson and the crew. Clarkson shouting at things and then ends up happy and content, Hammond cheery most of the way through until he has a few breakdowns, but generally enjoying everything, and May just overall goofy but still trying to remain elegant.
 
Icarus25
MS actually secures some sort of exclusivity. Plus, some people just don't like MS trying to outdo Sony. Let them have it, doesn't bother me as long as it all stays open to every console.
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1: Microsoft

2: Exclusivity

Pick one.

There's not been something great that's also been a Microsoft exclusive for years now. Apart from Windows 7 and Microsoft Office. Those are pretty good.

Publishers don't care, but if Microsoft is giving them good $$$ to get people to think the 360 is the better platform, they'll take it, even if it means delaying the PS3 version for a few months.
 
Icarus25
Because it's a perceived threat. Sony and PD came out a long time ago about the integration of TG and GT...everyone knew it was going to be included. Now along comes MS in the 11th hour, so to speak, and announces their own TG integration. Unless you've been living in a cave for the last couple years, you know that it isn't past MS to try and lock up some sort of exclusivity. This is what people are afraid of. It doesn't affect GT5, but it could affect 6 or 7 or anything else Sony/PD decide to do, *IF* MS actually secures some sort of exclusivity. Plus, some people just don't like MS trying to outdo Sony. Let them have it, doesn't bother me as long as it all stays open to every console.
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The irony here is that someone mentioned over in the "other" section here that the reason the track isn't going to be included in the new version of the "other" game is because a certain other game has secured temporary exclusive rights to the Test Track.

Hmmmm...

The TG Test Track looks very, very boring to me. I'm sure it'll be fun because a lot of people want to compare to the show, and I see the allure there, but as an actual track it rates very low for me personally compared to a lot of the other tracks we'll have access to.
 
I think, if we're honest, GT fans are a little scared of the big bad wolf that is Microsoft and their Turn 10 studio contraption Forza. Forza has made an impressive start in its first 3 titles and even if they're not up to GT quality, they're not a million miles - maybe only 3 Nurburgrings - away.

That being said, no GT fan wants to see Microsoft paying for:-

* Porsche - exclusive or not.
* Koenigsegg - exclusive or not.
* Top Gear (or rights to any TV show) - exclusive or not.
* Sports licenses such as WRC, F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, etc... Exclusive or not.

I am not concerned about this Forza 3 Ultimate version, however Forza 4 on a next Generation XBox could be of more concern to me, depending on whether Microsoft really does go digital download only or adopts a new media format. Don't be surprised if Forza 4 matches GT5 feature-for-feature. Exclusive content is a key factor - as is quality.

My point is this. If, when Turn 10 approaches them - "Desirable Brand X" only asks £50 (arbitrary sum) for their brand to be used in a Forza game. Microsoft would offer to pay £500 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 10) to make it exclusive and should the "exclusive offer" not sail, Microsoft would probably offer to pay £100 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 2 - pay double the asking price deliberately) just for some extra tat and to get into bed with the brand owners - planting the seed of greed. Should Sony then come along & talk to the same brand, don't be surprised if the price is suddenly £100 rather than the £50 it could - or would have been. A one-off deal might not be a problem, but if it starts extending to car manufacturers - will Sony pay time and again? (I think not and then what of GT?)

I doubt GT will ever see Porsche now.

Microsoft's strategy is to dominate our living rooms and in true Microsoft fashion, ask us to pay them a higher price for less quality. I've noticed that people in these GTPlanet forums can be very much elitist and would probably snarl at this post, but then you're likely the type to pay.

Microsoft has been very successful this generation and they'll be vying to dominate next generation. Remember who you're paying, what they value and what you're paying for. Remember that.
 
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LordVonPS3
I think, if we're honest, GT fans are a little scared of the big bad wolf that is Microsoft and their Turn 10 studio contraption Forza. Forza has made an impressive start in its first 3 titles and even if they're not up to GT quality, they're not a million miles - maybe only 3 Nurburgrings - away.

That being said, no GT fan wants to see Microsoft paying for:-

* Porsche - exclusive or not.
* Koenigsegg - exclusive or not.
* Top Gear (or rights to any TV show) - exclusive or not.
* Sports licenses such as WRC, F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, etc... Exclusive or not.

I am not concerned about this Forza 3 Ultimate version, however Forza 4 on a next Generation XBox could be of more concern to me, depending on whether Microsoft really does go digital download only or adopts a new media format. Don't be surprised if Forza 4 matches GT5 feature-for-feature. Exclusive content is a key factor - as is quality.

My point is this. If, when Turn 10 approaches them - "Desirable Brand X" only asks £50 (arbitrary sum) for their brand to be used in a Forza game. Microsoft would offer to pay £500 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 10) to make it exclusive and should the "exclusive offer" not sail, Microsoft would probably offer to pay £100 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 2 - pay double the asking price deliberately) just for some extra tat and to get into bed with the brand owners - planting the seed of greed. Should Sony then come along & talk to the same brand, don't be surprised if the price is suddenly £100 rather than the £50 it could - or would have been. A one-off deal might not be a problem, but if it starts extending to car manufacturers - will Sony pay time and again? (I think not and then what of GT?)

I doubt GT will ever see Porsche now.

Microsoft's strategy is to dominate our living rooms and in true Microsoft fashion, ask us to pay them a higher price for less quality. I've noticed that people in these GTPlanet forums can be very much elitist and would probably snarl at this post, but then you're likely the type to pay.

Microsoft has been very successful this generation and they'll be vying to dominate next generation. Remember who you're paying, what they value and what you're paying for. Remember that.
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Forza 4 will be on DVD, cause plans were already announced at E3 that it's coming out next year and it will be on the 360, it might be 2 disc though.
 
LordVonPS3
I think, if we're honest, GT fans are a little scared of the big bad wolf that is Microsoft and their Turn 10 studio contraption Forza. Forza has made an impressive start in its first 3 titles and even if they're not up to GT quality, they're not a million miles - maybe only 3 Nurburgrings - away.

That being said, no GT fan wants to see Microsoft paying for:-

* Porsche - exclusive or not.
* Koenigsegg - exclusive or not.
* Top Gear (or rights to any TV show) - exclusive or not.
* Sports licenses such as WRC, F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, etc... Exclusive or not.

I am not concerned about this Forza 3 Ultimate version, however Forza 4 on a next Generation XBox could be of more concern to me, depending on whether Microsoft really does go digital download only or adopts a new media format. Don't be surprised if Forza 4 matches GT5 feature-for-feature. Exclusive content is a key factor - as is quality.

My point is this. If, when Turn 10 approaches them - "Desirable Brand X" only asks £50 (arbitrary sum) for their brand to be used in a Forza game. Microsoft would offer to pay £500 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 10) to make it exclusive and should the "exclusive offer" not sail, Microsoft would probably offer to pay £100 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 2 - pay double the asking price deliberately) just for some extra tat and to get into bed with the brand owners - planting the seed of greed. Should Sony then come along & talk to the same brand, don't be surprised if the price is suddenly £100 rather than the £50 it could - or would have been. A one-off deal might not be a problem, but if it starts extending to car manufacturers - will Sony pay time and again? (I think not and then what of GT?)

I doubt GT will ever see Porsche now.

Microsoft's strategy is to dominate our living rooms and in true Microsoft fashion, ask us to pay them a higher price for less quality. I've noticed that people in these GTPlanet forums can be very much elitist and would probably snarl at this post, but then you're likely the type to pay.

Microsoft has been very successful this generation and they'll be vying to dominate next generation. Remember who you're paying, what they value and what you're paying for. Remember that.
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I agree many are "scared" as you say. Scared their "side" will be beaten by the "other" guys.

I however, won't have a problem with playing a new Forza release on the 360. It will be the my first use of the 360 to actually play a game, and I'd be happy to see GT forcing the competition to a whole new level. It would only bring us more fun and cars and tracks to play with.

But... I seriously doubt it, and it may be just a "waste" of good content (Porsche, Nascar, etc).

Oh, and I will _never_ pay to play on-line.
 
PirateThom
It's a different type of show. Top Gear is steadily becoming less about cars and more about scripted comedy. Sure, it has cars, but the vast majority of viewers are not watching Top Gear for cars, they're watching for James May being a ponce and Jeremy Clarkson shouting "POWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!".

It's worth pointing out though that Fifth Gear's presenters and production crew were all on Old Top Gear, with Tiff Needell being on the show before Clarkson even, and Fifth Gear starting before Top Gear relaunched in the new format with Clarkson and Hammond.

Fifth Gear, while definitely lower budget, is definitely more for car enthusiasts.
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This is pretty much exactly how I feel, Top Gear used to pretty much be perfect but then everybody in Top Gear left and made Fifth Gear.

The two shows are just leagues apart and this description may only mean something to UK members but I find Top Gear to be the Richard & Judy of car shows.

And now that Ben Collins has announced he's joining Fifth Gear there is just nothing left in the show that interests me.

Given the option I would also prefer to have the Fifth Gear track in the game for two reasons:
  1. It's a far more interesting track.
  2. The Fifth Gear track is my local track and I'd be able to swear at he house of one of my ex girlfriends as I drive past. Just saying, that's all!:sly:
Anyway, it's all off topic really and it will be quite nice to take on The Stig's times on the Top Gear track in November.
 
Other two videos from the same guy of the September 2010 PS3 Kiosk GT5 demo:

[youtubehd]NdoluNSYFws[/youtubehd]

[youtubehd]oWztlkcny-0[/youtubehd]
 
I still can't get over how good that menu music is. :lol: It's exactly what I imagined the GT5 menu music to be. Doesn't get annoying, has an air of class about it and it doesn't distract from what's happening on the screen.
 
LordVonPS3
I think, if we're honest, GT fans are a little scared of the big bad wolf that is Microsoft and their Turn 10 studio contraption Forza. Forza has made an impressive start in its first 3 titles and even if they're not up to GT quality, they're not a million miles - maybe only 3 Nurburgrings - away.

That being said, no GT fan wants to see Microsoft paying for:-

* Porsche - exclusive or not.
* Koenigsegg - exclusive or not.
* Top Gear (or rights to any TV show) - exclusive or not.
* Sports licenses such as WRC, F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, etc... Exclusive or not.

I am not concerned about this Forza 3 Ultimate version, however Forza 4 on a next Generation XBox could be of more concern to me, depending on whether Microsoft really does go digital download only or adopts a new media format. Don't be surprised if Forza 4 matches GT5 feature-for-feature. Exclusive content is a key factor - as is quality.

My point is this. If, when Turn 10 approaches them - "Desirable Brand X" only asks £50 (arbitrary sum) for their brand to be used in a Forza game. Microsoft would offer to pay £500 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 10) to make it exclusive and should the "exclusive offer" not sail, Microsoft would probably offer to pay £100 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 2 - pay double the asking price deliberately) just for some extra tat and to get into bed with the brand owners - planting the seed of greed. Should Sony then come along & talk to the same brand, don't be surprised if the price is suddenly £100 rather than the £50 it could - or would have been. A one-off deal might not be a problem, but if it starts extending to car manufacturers - will Sony pay time and again? (I think not and then what of GT?)

I doubt GT will ever see Porsche now.

Microsoft's strategy is to dominate our living rooms and in true Microsoft fashion, ask us to pay them a higher price for less quality. I've noticed that people in these GTPlanet forums can be very much elitist and would probably snarl at this post, but then you're likely the type to pay.

Microsoft has been very successful this generation and they'll be vying to dominate next generation. Remember who you're paying, what they value and what you're paying for. Remember that.
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As much as I we love GT, and we say (for the non forza fans) that Forza is mediocre to GT, the quick releases will have maybe some form of unfinished concept, i.e cockpit views, weather (not neccessarily these but you get the idea) GT can either take that idea and take it to perfection, or make something entirely new AND finished, that everybody will love, except Kaz who will delay the release to make it even more perfect :indiff: Jks.

On the Porsche matter, I don't mind much missing them in this game. However, not having them in the long term (GT6, 7, 8) will have a massive impact on my opinion of the fullness of the game as a series.

I remember back in the days when Apple was baddie and Microsoft was good guy. I now have 3 different iPods and use a cracked version of windows 7, just to spite microsoft.
 
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I've just found it. Is it something new, or maybe old and fake?
 
LordVonPS3
I think, if we're honest, GT fans are a little scared of the big bad wolf that is Microsoft and their Turn 10 studio contraption Forza. Forza has made an impressive start in its first 3 titles and even if they're not up to GT quality, they're not a million miles - maybe only 3 Nurburgrings - away.

That being said, no GT fan wants to see Microsoft paying for:-

* Porsche - exclusive or not.
* Koenigsegg - exclusive or not.
* Top Gear (or rights to any TV show) - exclusive or not.
* Sports licenses such as WRC, F1, NASCAR, IndyCar, etc... Exclusive or not.

I am not concerned about this Forza 3 Ultimate version, however Forza 4 on a next Generation XBox could be of more concern to me, depending on whether Microsoft really does go digital download only or adopts a new media format. Don't be surprised if Forza 4 matches GT5 feature-for-feature. Exclusive content is a key factor - as is quality.

My point is this. If, when Turn 10 approaches them - "Desirable Brand X" only asks £50 (arbitrary sum) for their brand to be used in a Forza game. Microsoft would offer to pay £500 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 10) to make it exclusive and should the "exclusive offer" not sail, Microsoft would probably offer to pay £100 (i.e. arbitrary sum x 2 - pay double the asking price deliberately) just for some extra tat and to get into bed with the brand owners - planting the seed of greed. Should Sony then come along & talk to the same brand, don't be surprised if the price is suddenly £100 rather than the £50 it could - or would have been. A one-off deal might not be a problem, but if it starts extending to car manufacturers - will Sony pay time and again? (I think not and then what of GT?)

I doubt GT will ever see Porsche now.

Microsoft's strategy is to dominate our living rooms and in true Microsoft fashion, ask us to pay them a higher price for less quality. I've noticed that people in these GTPlanet forums can be very much elitist and would probably snarl at this post, but then you're likely the type to pay.

Microsoft has been very successful this generation and they'll be vying to dominate next generation. Remember who you're paying, what they value and what you're paying for. Remember that.
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I do not have any problem with anything you've mentioned - I play on all platforms - as long as Microsoft finaly realise that they need to make their most important franchise serious.

I hope that NextBox will solve he problem of hardware-related suport for Logitech/Fanatech (TouchSense) force feedback wheels and once for all close that huge gap. With that support, Forza's physics engine - which is one great engine - would finally shine as it should, without limitations of inferior hardware-support.

Secondly, if they decide to copy every-single aspect of Gran Turismo I will have no single problem with that, because competition is a great thing, despite GT having it's own development philosophy that has it's own direction.

Also, notice that "Microsoft paying for exclusives" does not necessary make them "bad guys", because paying for various licences is a normal way to go in bussines, I think you would do the same way if you were them. You could also say that Sony were a "bad guy" with their F1 and WRC licensing to PlayStation 2 platform during almost 5 years, where no other platform could have those games.

And also notice that exclusion of Porsche absoulutly have to be based on licencsing, but I personally think it is based on fact that Sony just didn't want to pay some undisclosed amount to Porsche in order to have the license. EA have the "exclusive license", but than again you have all imaganable Porsches in Forza 3. So, I really do not see any "exclusivity" there. You may safely presume that Sony deliberately decided that amount of money neded for Porsche license is not worth the ovrall sales-impact and they just didn't pay for it.
 
SHIRAKAWA Akira
Other two videos from the same guy of the September 2010 PS3 Kiosk GT5 demo:

[youtubehd]NdoluNSYFws[/youtubehd]

[youtubehd]oWztlkcny-0[/youtubehd]
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What the hell the sound on the other cars from this bloke were great but these two seem to be round the wrong way around as the GT sounds like a lambo and the lambo has got to be a place holder as it sounds nothing like a lamb. But it is good to hear the sound in the other videos.
 
LordVonPS3
I think, if we're honest, GT fans are a little scared of the big bad wolf that is Microsoft and their Turn 10 studio contraption Forza.
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You couldn't be more wrong. In fact, this first sentiment directly relates to your second sentiment, but only to you, not all GT fans-

I am not concerned about this Forza 3 Ultimate version, however Forza 4 on a next Generation XBox could be of more concern to me, depending on whether Microsoft really does go digital download only or adopts a new media format. Don't be surprised if Forza 4 matches GT5 feature-for-feature. Exclusive content is a key factor - as is quality.
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OK, you are scared. Now, do not put forth your dramatic, unjust feeling on everyone else that enjoys this hobby, it will not diminish the unjust thoughts.
 

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