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More or less. Basically...
1. If you can plug A and B together (e.g. 8 pin USB male / female), that's a good start.
2. If devices A and B share the same device controller type, (e.g. USB) that's also important.
3. After this, anything & everything can be done or emulated in software via O/S patches, firmware patches (if one / other devices can be flashed) or a device driver.
Microsoft can do whatever they want in s/w on their own platform, they could make all devices compatible if they so wanted but it would come at a price to them.
It's all doable & I've done it myself since the days of serial / parallel / RS485 port & ISA / PCI card stuff to more modern day ethernet & USB. Most dev kit devices are flashable, but for final, production h/w it's cheaper to write to ROM and ship. It just means that later on you may have to do some patching on the PC / other to fix compatibility issues... In as far as stock control and shipping, etc goes... Quite often manufacturers will change the h/w internals (chips, PCB, etc) to save costs and may ship EPROMs as well anyway - so some devices can be rescued by flashing rather than soldering a new ROM with new firmware.
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Pretty much. It´s just fights, rants and a bunch on nonsense. Hopefully we will have real news to talk about it soon. Only 32 days left
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I don't know you but I'd get pretty mad if someone replied to me saying out of the box "you don't know what you're talking about"
Happens all the time on these forums. Lots of people that think they know allot, also with some that do know allot.
That is always the problem with debate. People always think they are right, and it is quite natural, the problem lies when somebody is proven wrong but does not back down!!
I guess there is no harm telling somebody that they do not know about the subject they are debating with you providing that there is some truth to what you say. Either way though it can be annoying! hehe
Anyway, can we get back to GT5?
Do we have any people at this expo? I am in London on the 4th and should be there to colect my pre-order from game when it finally ships. It will be interesting if I can us GT anywhere on my mobile phone? That will be relly cool. Imagine taking a dump while at work managing and racing some of your spec B drivers!! hehe
Aristotle reincarnated!
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Thank you! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
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I think part of the reason Kaz himself seems to like this show might simply have to do with the fact he can never say the things they say on Top Gear regarding certain cars or brands without it possibly having consequences for licences, brand relations or the unbiased reputation of PD and GT in general.
And ofcourse adding content of a worldwide popular TV-series with a largely overlapping target audience is a stroke of genius marketingwise ( whether you actually like the show or not ).
Although I agree there seems to be an odd discrepancy in combining the two.
Unlike what appears to be mostly spontaneous, most of Top Gear has been scripted for as long as the current series exists ( and probably before as well ).
In fact the script-editor of TG ( or Clarkson and co's puppetmaster ) is Richard Porter, a car journalist who also has his own satirical car website www.sniffpetrol.com ( strong language warning ) which I find a very funny read ( often funnier than Top Gear to be honest ) once in a while.
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Sure enough, the locking of the 360 to the mainstream wheel controllers was based on a $pecific $trategy. However, considering Microsoft ceased the production of their own branded device, and given the limited amount of alternatives on the market; this blockade doesnt make any sense now. There are indeed lots of G-whatever owners that would walk the Box/Forza path, if only that was possible.
And if that was just a firmware update matter, Im pretty sure we would have already seen it! Either from Microsoft, Logitech, or a bunch of fanatic geeks who dont give a 🤬 about licensing issues.
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@Tenacious D
That argument can be used about Sony. They are in the TV/MultiMedia/Console/PC business and "want to rule the world" as much as MS, and have invested billions in GT.
People just don't hate them as much as they do MS.
That argument can be used about Sony. They are in the TV/MultiMedia/Console/PC business and "want to rule the world" as much as MS, and have invested billions in GT.
People just don't hate them as much as they do MS.
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Hardly.
Give me an article which states, "Every TV made means money for $ONY." Or "Want to buy a PC? Pony up to $ONY."
The MS monopoly empire is why I was horrified, as were many in the tech field, when MS became involved in HD-DVD, and produced or helped to produce the codec for the format. Everyone realized that there would be a hefty licensing fee paid to MS if they wanted to have their product on that disc.
It seems many people don't understand what being a monopoly really means.
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The license requirement module comes down to simple encrypted handshake routine. It could be disabled on the X360 O/S very simply by rem'ing out any calls within that method / function. The FFB is a touch more tricky, but still doable.
Anyway, it's not particularly important as Microsoft is never going to unlock their system to any and all manufacturers, but the point to make is that it's not a hardware problem when it could but won't be fixed in software.
Again, it is not a hardware problem and could just as easily be sorted out through a bit of software emulation on the X360 side. Sending a HID wheel the relevant information isn't impossible, nor difficult - just different software instructions.
Absolutely.
I doubt you could know unless you happened to be able to acquire a list of contractors / suppliers from the company / companies belonging to whatever IP's you've scanned anyway... or perhaps you know someone who knows someone who maybe knows someone!?! Haha... 👍
Educating children is very noble, especially these days.
Yes.
Random and previously barely known?
The X360 wheel isn't being produced anymore. You'll find that the wheel Microsoft will (is?) semi-officially supporting (now) is being made by Mad Catz. Of course in about a month's time no-one wheel need steering wheels, right? 
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I find this interesting to read!
http://www.rundlc.com/news/gran-turismos-visual-evolution/
http://www.rundlc.com/news/gran-turismos-visual-evolution/
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Exactly!
Look, this is quite ridiculous if you think about it. There are 2 giant companies trying to sell their stuff to people. It's a multi-billion dollar business so obviously each one of them is going to use whatever "weapons" they can in order to take a biggest chunk of the market than the other. This is valid either of videogames business, to auto business, or the cookies business.
Microsoft has a console. Their market strategy is to make the greater revenue out of it as possible, either by making their console compatible only to the periphals they licensed (and for which periphals manufacters have to pay them!), or by allowing online connection of their console by paid-subscription only. It's a legitimate strategy, either you agree with it or not. Sony had optate differently. It's also their right to do it.
It is us, costumers - the whole reason why the exist in the first place - to choose for whichever brand we want. Or both even. That's the beauty of it - the decisive power is in our hands (We are the money guys, not them. They have the money we choose to give them).
So, having that said, it is pretty ridiculous to fear, to be scared, to be envy, to rant or whatever a different system than the one you got. You have what you choose to have. As well it is pretty ridiculous to feed irrational aversion to a specific brand because we don't like the way they conduct their business. It's simple, don't buy it.
I hope GT5 is a GREAT game. And I hope FM4 will be even a GREATER one that would make me to buy an Xbox. And I hope that PD's answer to it, GT6, would be even greater. And so on, so on... It will be always in my benefit.
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I don't see them as monopoly when there are alternatives. You can go about your life without paying them a cent, as you decided to do.
My point is that they try (very hard, granted) to be one, and are all about the money, and that can be said to most major manufacturers. They have just been more successful at it.
Edit:
- Why do you think GT is a PS exclusive, and not cross platform?
(and I still believe they delayed GT in March to sell 3D Tvs as well)
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Please do. You would be representing gtplanet well.
Sadly, for you, the reason I have that badge is because I'm entrusted not only to read the AUP and accept it, but to interpret it and enforce it using judgement that the site owner feels is suitable to replace his own on almost every occasion.
In this instance I judge this topic (the one about steering wheels) to not be unsuitable for this thread. You might disagree but, crucially, if you do, no-one cares.
I meant Fanatec...
Of course in about a month's time no-one wheel need steering wheels, right?
If Microsoft can get the Kinect cracked, we'll only need to think in Russian to get our cars to do what we want...
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Just realized that if only one group of people were modeling the premium cars, then they could never model 200 + cars in 5 years. It's an average of about 50 cars a year (making it 250 Premium models), but if one team was working on them and it takes about 4 to 6 weeks, that's less than 12 cars a year. If my math is correct, then there's about 4 or 5 teams working on premium cars at once. And several other teams working on tracks. But, at 50 cars a year, even if the next GT comes out in another 3 years, that's 150 more Premium cars making the total around 400. However, PD could get more people making cars and increase the number of cars being modeled...especially if they don't add a lot of new tracks to GT6.
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Your math is off because it is assuming that one team is only working on one car at a time. Say a team has 10 members. Member one completes his part on a car and passes it to member two and then starts on a new car while member two begins his part of the car he just received. So, one team is working on the same number of cars as there are team members. A 10 member team is working on 10 cars (possibly more) at once.
Think of an assembly line in a car factory. One car might take a week to build, but they don't just build one car at a time and hundreds roll out every day.
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I'm glad you find that funny. I find it ironic that you appear to care so much about a moderator apparently violating the AUP he enforces by indulging in off-topic conversation, yet you think nothing of trolling this topic by challenging that moderator's authority in the manner you just did there.
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Stay out Dee, officer Famine will deal with it.
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it was in the GT5P credits iirc that 31 people work on cars, 23 people work on tracks and 6 people work on sound i might be slightly off.
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