That's what I said, nothing OFFICIAL in terms of a release date, except for 11/2/10. Anyone who says otherwise is wrong. Regardless of pushbacks from when we thought the game would be here, it's not here yet. People fret over the small things but expect something grand. What if Kaz did the same thing? What if he released GT5 without any of the features we'll see? Like a new B-Spec? How about the return of race modification? What if he said no 3D? How about 8 racers instead of 16? 30fps instead of 60? 20 tracks instead of more than 40? And maybe best of all, Track editor! We get the best of the best when we get GT games, this is the first FULL GT game of the new generation. GT in the past has been the best of their generation, so why expect anything different? I sure don't. It'll be a blast to have the GT 'feel' again. To have updated sounds and physics, graphics like nothing else, that's what I'm eager for. GT is like no other racing game, sim, whatever. GT is in a class of it's own.