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Are they really? Karting, car events, etc.? How are they any more productive?

Of course not, I like to work on my car, play chess, go to sporting events, I like Auto-crosses and track days, and other such things but video games is the cheapest, and easiest thing that me and buddies can do together.

I really just wanted to get past video games as a primary endeavor. When I said, generally speaking, I was referring to fabricating, fixing, travel, work and school. These I hold in higher regard that video games alone. I can get into the why if you like. Obviously we both play video games, but I have to tell you that I personally draw greater satisfaction from other experiences in life that require me getting out of the house or exercise the brain and body to a greater extent.
 
My take on the whole friends and gaming thing. If I have friends over and we are playing a video game we are probably playing against each other. Just watching one person play at a time for a few hours would get boring which is why it wouldn't work for a 24hour race, at least for me it wouldn't.
 
In my case it wouldn't work. Last time my friend dropped by we were playing Fight Round 4 for 6 hours... at the end I had to play with one eye shut. Who would know that 10 beers can cause double vision :D
 
Nothing wrong with being older and playing videogames.

I'm in a Dutch/ Belgian 30+ clan for years now it is slowly turing in to a 35+ to 40+ (some are even 50+)
we started out playing SOCOM and had a competition with DTM, DTM2, and DTM3.

these days we don't get to play with each other very often due to job's, children and so on.
But once a year we get together for a weekend of beer, games and pizza.
This year it the first weekend of november wich should have been great to have GT5 but now it's just going to be shooters I geuss which is fine.

now back to GT5 news
 
I really just wanted to get past video games as a primary endeavor. When I said, generally speaking, I was referring to fabricating, fixing, travel, work and school. These I hold in higher regard that video games alone. I can get into the why if you like. Obviously we both play video games, but I have to tell you that I personally draw greater satisfaction from other experiences in life that require me getting out of the house or exercise the brain and body to a greater extent.

Well, are you speaking as just a "Do it by yourself" kind of thing, and "Do it with friends" kind of thing? That makes a big difference in the quality of some of these things. Work, and school aren't leisurely activities that you do with friends, and that is what I thought the discussion was about. Why is playing a video game leisurely with friends any more or less weird than any other leisurely activity that you do with friends? That was my question. No more, no less.
 
Yeah i still wonder why would people take part in 24h race where everything above is included :)

You know maybe i'm weird but i will be happy even if I will be last ! Because i took challange and make it to the end. I will be proud.

Couldn't agree more! I've only done two 24 Hour races online, in 2005 and 2006. Guess what, I didn't finish in any of them. The team I was in raced for several hours (12+). We got 13:th place the first time and I was glad we even finished that high. The story is on my not so used blog that nobody reads :)
Since then I've been looking for a racing game that lets me do the same thing again. LFS is close but has the wrong cars and tracks. rFactor don't allow people to rejoin after a disconnect. So I have my hopes high for GT5. One of the most thrilling types of racing is the Endurance races with a team. Even if we "only" can race 16 cars at the same time.

And just to prove that I did:

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And this was our last lap of that race:

SBRC2-smoking.jpg
 
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Well, are you speaking as just a "Do it by yourself" kind of thing, and "Do it with friends" kind of thing? That makes a big difference in the quality of some of these things. Work, and school aren't leisurely activities that you do with friends, and that is what I thought the discussion was about. Why is playing a video game leisurely with friends any more or less weird than any other leisurely activity that you do with friends? That was my question. No more, no less.

At least a few of the things I mentioned can be done alone or with friends. Either way, people talking about not allowing people to save during an endurance race need to stop. Stop trying to run my life. Don't use it if you don't want. Pretty simple. Choice.
 
At least a few of the things I mentioned can be done alone or with friends. Either way, people talking about not allowing people to save during an endurance race need to stop. Stop trying to run my life. Don't use it if you don't want. Pretty simple. Choice.

I agree, not many people are hardcore like me when it comes to endurance racing. Let everyone decide for them selves if and when they want to use a save feature. I would prefer to have the opportunity to race a "real" 24 hour race in a team but I don't expect that everyone has the time or inclination to do so. So don't want to save? Then don't. It's the same long discussion like the damage thread, same answer.
 
At least a few of the things I mentioned can be done alone or with friends. Either way, people talking about not allowing people to save during an endurance race need to stop. Stop trying to run my life. Don't use it if you don't want. Pretty simple. Choice.

Agreed.

But I just love it when people try to control how others play the game offline, where it doesn't even affect their own experience. Playing against other people on the Internet is a different story though.
 
Some OOOOOOOLD footage of GT2000, never saw it before and I believe it's the first time on the internet, it's just amazing what we got with GT3 eventually, so much better than this.



p.s. I hope someone finally put some scans of the CarMagazine/X1 story up, probably a nice read inside.
 
At least a few of the things I mentioned can be done alone or with friends. Either way, people talking about not allowing people to save during an endurance race need to stop. Stop trying to run my life. Don't use it if you don't want. Pretty simple. Choice.

I agree 100%.

I did all the endurance races in GT4 several times over with only the pause button.

On two occasions more than half way through a 24hr and the other a 12hr, I had to go back and start over because of overnight power failures.

On one other occasion, more than half way through, I discovered the pause button had gotten pushed back on the night before (still an unsolved mystery to this day) and had to start over.

Anything but fun.

For these reasons I certainly support endurance race saves.
I do not wish to repeat a like scenario ever again.



Yay tomorrow is another TurismoTuesday! :D

I wonder what we will be shown.

More promises. What else?
 
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"The limiting factor is the difficulty of the race itself, not the duration." Huh? It is difficult because of the duration. You aren't making sense nor can you separate the two. Strategy is also involved, which adds difficulty and the ability of the AI is a contributing factor as well. There are various limiting factors. Again, your argument makes no sense and is fairly biased.

"The casual paid for the game, the casual can experience everything, doesn't mean the casual has a chance to win everything." I don't think I'm implying they win, but 24 hours is a barrier to completion on any level. Simply put, one is not getting to complete what they paid for (whether coming in last or first and anywhere in-between).

I know my english is bad, but you could try harder.

I should have quoted the first part of your post too, my bad. You were talking about 24h races, implying how the lack of a save system is a limiting factor, mentioning hardcore and casuals and how they would face the challenge of such endurance race, is that right? If not, then just ignore my post, there's no point arguing over something I misinterpreted.

I'm not against the implementation of any form of save system. If you have a chance of winning, but don't have the time, the system is great! What you posted made it look like a save system would make the race accessible for the casual... but using it to break the endurance race into smaller "races" isn't going to help at all if he can't keep up, no matter what strategy you take, since the AI is always regular (presuming you don't rely on B-Spec).

A race in The Ring against fast AI cars? For a casual, that will be a hard race independent of the number of laps, same with La Sarthe. A longer duration simply adds to the first difficult the casual player can't overcome.

Is my argument\opinion biased? Well, yes, because that's my experience as a casual player with races where little mistakes by me = big advantages for the adversary (this describes all three 24h races from GT4), a save system wouldn't remedy that (lousy driving) and I would hardly take enjoyment over the fact that it helped me lose a "complete" 24h race, even if I paid for it :P
 
I know my english is bad, but you could try harder.

I should have quoted the first part of your post too, my bad. You were talking about 24h races, implying how the lack of a save system is a limiting factor, mentioning hardcore and casuals and how they would face the challenge of such endurance race, is that right? If not, then just ignore my post, there's no point arguing over something I misinterpreted.

I'm not against the implementation of any form of save system. If you have a chance of winning, but don't have the time, the system is great! What you posted made it look like a save system would make the race accessible for the casual... but using it to break the endurance race into smaller "races" isn't going to help at all if he can't keep up, no matter what strategy you take, since the AI is always regular (presuming you don't rely on B-Spec).

A race in The Ring against fast AI cars? For a casual, that will be a hard race independent of the number of laps, same with La Sarthe. A longer duration simply adds to the first difficult the casual player can't overcome.

Is my argument\opinion biased? Well, yes, because that's my experience as a casual player with races where little mistakes by me = big advantages for the adversary (this describes all three 24h races from GT4), a save system wouldn't remedy that (lousy driving) and I would hardly take enjoyment over the fact that it helped me lose a "complete" 24h race, even if I paid for it :P

Not asking for a remedy to win.
 
Couldn't agree more! I've only done two 24 Hour races online, in 2005 and 2006. Guess what, I didn't finish in any of them. The team I was in raced for several hours (12+). We got 13:th place the first time and I was glad we even finished that high. The story is on my not so used blog that nobody reads :)
Since then I've been looking for a racing game that lets me do the same thing again. LFS is close but has the wrong cars and tracks. rFactor don't allow people to rejoin after a disconnect. So I have my hopes high for GT5. One of the most thrilling types of racing is the Endurance races with a team. Even if we "only" can race 16 cars at the same time.

And just to prove that I did:

000_0262.jpg


And this was our last lap of that race:

SBRC2-smoking.jpg

👍

The harder it gets the bigger prize it'll be :)

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uh double post :/
 
I don't see how Turn 10 could not be part of something that involved one of their employees giving out over 2000 pieces of unique downloadable content through their official forums. :rolleyes:
They're not. They may be told about it, but Che's job was to interact with the community, & gifting cars was part of that. Today, Jube3 now does it by releasing his painted cars every so often for everyone & T10 never says a word beside the fact that it's been gifted.
 
I know my english is bad, but you could try harder.

I should have quoted the first part of your post too, my bad. You were talking about 24h races, implying how the lack of a save system is a limiting factor, mentioning hardcore and casuals and how they would face the challenge of such endurance race, is that right? If not, then just ignore my post, there's no point arguing over something I misinterpreted.

I'm not against the implementation of any form of save system. If you have a chance of winning, but don't have the time, the system is great! What you posted made it look like a save system would make the race accessible for the casual... but using it to break the endurance race into smaller "races" isn't going to help at all if he can't keep up, no matter what strategy you take, since the AI is always regular (presuming you don't rely on B-Spec).

A race in The Ring against fast AI cars? For a casual, that will be a hard race independent of the number of laps, same with La Sarthe. A longer duration simply adds to the first difficult the casual player can't overcome.

Is my argument\opinion biased? Well, yes, because that's my experience as a casual player with races where little mistakes by me = big advantages for the adversary (this describes all three 24h races from GT4), a save system wouldn't remedy that (lousy driving) and I would hardly take enjoyment over the fact that it helped me lose a "complete" 24h race, even if I paid for it :P

Not asking for a remedy to win.

The thing is and I think that is relevant for most drivers/racers i real life, is that you want to finish first, then see if it was enough to get the first place.
I would be really glad to even finish a 24H race on the Ring. But that's the beauty with GT, you can play it anyway you want, there is no wrong way of doing it.

I do think you're (Kusogaki) missing the point. For me it's not the win, it's the race that's the important thing and to race well. If it means that I win, great, but if not it's the experience of racing that make me come back for more. I've been an online simracer since EA:s F1 games and I have but a few wins, some podiums but most of the time I'm in the lower half of the result list. Does it stop me from racing, no. (Doing GT style races against the AI is another thing) But I'm an online racer most of the time.
 
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Guys this is still bugging me, it is only if you go onto GT.com and select any country in Asia or North America that there is anything about the delay. If you select any EU country Australia or New Zealand it just say the same as before but without the date. it is the same if you go into the news section. I know you are going to say sloppy site updating but they have taken the 3rd November date off but not put on the delay news story. So if you had not heard about the delay and went on from the UK and selected UK you would not read anything about a delay, sloppy? or maybe there is no delay for the rest of the world just US and Asia .........?
I really can't see that happening but you do have to wonder.
Try it and see what I mean go to GT.com and select US and read the news the do it as if you are from the UK.
 
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