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I disagree with that. I think they have 800 cars of GT5 standards, and 200 cars of GT6 standards.

Standard cars are models lifted from Gran Turismo 4 and GT PSP. These models are of the same standards as those in Gran Turismo 3, a PS2 game conceived a decade ago. As such, they essentially amount to fluff, included for no good reason other than to bolster the game's vehicle count, when compared to Gran Turismo 5's Premium cars. :rolleyes:
 
I like motorbikes, some of them could be released in the GT. After that, they look good in GT5 graphics:
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Right?
 
Nascar is pointless
I feel the same, yet I'd still like it to be included in the game. Which brings me back to 'bikes'...

What I feel about something being included/not included in the game doesn't automatically make me right and make my opinion better than everyone elses, the same applies to everyone else.

I might think including a particular vehicle/mode is pointless and a waste of time, but there will be someone who will love to be able to use the things that I see as being a pointless addition. What makes myself or any other games player so special that they would want to deprive other people of other vehicles/modes when given the option of it being included? I'd like as much racing action crammed in to the game as possible, I just won't use the things that I think are pointless.

PD do quality work and if something doesn't meet their exacting standards then they would leave it out of the game. There is only one person who gets to say what should and should not get put in to creating the perfect racing game and that is Kaz.
 
Standard cars are models lifted from Gran Turismo 4 and GT PSP. These models are of the same standards as those in Gran Turismo 3, a PS2 game conceived a decade ago. As such, they essentially amount to fluff, included for no good reason other than to bolster the game's vehicle count, when compared to Gran Turismo 5's Premium cars. :rolleyes:

Which is actually a good reason. Aside from not having a cockpit view, the official specifications/documents of the cars are integrated with the new physics. They will drive like the premium cars, just less damage.
 
Why are they comparing Vettel's real life time to the game one? I'm sure he could beat his real record with the F2007 in GT5P.
The top speed number seems a bit low to me. 249mph is almost exactly 400kmh. We saw a video where the speed was climbing way too quickly at 395-398kmh to just stop at 400.

Sounds like the top speed could be electronically limited, most likely due to restrictions such as temperatures the tires can handle.
 
Alright, I think everyone needs to calm down... :lol:

How about some guided relaxation? :sly:
(just a warning, after the 'drop', which if you don't know what that is it should become very evident once you hear it, many of you will probably NOT like the song :lol: )
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Not bad . . .
 
Standard cars are models lifted from Gran Turismo 4 and GT PSP. These models are of the same standards as those in Gran Turismo 3, a PS2 game conceived a decade ago. As such, they essentially amount to fluff, included for no good reason other than to bolster the game's vehicle count, when compared to Gran Turismo 5's Premium cars. :rolleyes:

I am really happy that they include the standards this time, not like in GT3, and that while in terms of modeling they have nothing to do with the premiums, not even with the other current games like Shift, Grid, Forza and others, as TheIshter said, in terms of gameplay they behaves exactly like the premiums, with the same physics, so I for my part I'm glad by the Standards, but I guess I see the glass half full and you almost empty. :rolleyes:
 
Who said that if bikes were in the game they'd have to be racing against cars. Of course it could be an option for non-GT mode races or multiplayer battles, but why not add a small portion of GT mode dedicated to bike racing?

I have almost no interest in bikes, but would still love to see them make it into GT5.
 
As much as i would like to see car and bikes mixed together...

but realistically, the way things are right now, i doubt any bikes will be included.

GT5, last time i checked, is still the real DRIVING simulator...
not Biking...

But if Kaz includes them i certainly will NOT spit on them
 
My opinion is GT5 equal cars and TT2 equal bikes. I would buy TT2 if Kaz and company makes it, but will not buy DLC containing bikes.
 
Who said that if bikes were in the game they'd have to be racing against cars. Of course it could be an option for non-GT mode races or multiplayer battles, but why not add a small portion of GT mode dedicated to bike racing?

Exactly, in the same way karts are included which are a different category altogether too and are also not expected to be raced against cars I guess.
Again this is all speculative ( Kaz just mentioning that it could technically be done and may consider it hypothetically when there's a huge demand ) and at this point even irrelevant to really be worth a heated debate I reckon with the main title with 'only' cars ( and karts ) included not even released yet.

And if it were to happen as future DLC, it would be optional to buy or not and why not let people who would like them in GT5 not have this option anyway?
Online there would be a few events for bikes added ( or trackdays for cars and bikes added, not replacing others ) and nothing more would change for those who choose not to buy bike-related DLC, especially not offline obviously.
Development time building bikes taking away time from cars? If they were planning TT2 anyway they would already put development time in creating bikes wouldn't they?

If bikes were added as an option, really nothing much ( or at all ) will change for those who don't take this option so don't panic in thinking it will ruin GT5 for you because it won't.
And lastly it strikes me so many aren't more openminded to this option even when, or perhaps especially when, it's at this point unlikely to even happen in the first place, don't shout no first before actually thinking about how it would or could be implemented.

The biggest problem this possibly brings along is not for those who only like cars but for those who only like bikes ( and who would have to buy an entire car game to experience them ).
 
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I don't play other racing games than GT, but that would be a problem to me. In sports games I expect to be able to use all the competitors against each other. I understand having things like an Italian league or DTM races with restrictions but being completely unable to race two cars together is stupid.

But... we're not on about two cars, we're on about a bike and and a car, so, what's the problem? :P
 
Renault espace, model T Ford, Daimler motor caridge, Jay Lenno tank car, to name a few.

How on earth are these examples pointless? They provide fun to a lot of people ( me included ) and that's the only criteria which counts in a videogame so they have a point or purpose, maybe not to you but thankfully you're not in charge.
 
How on earth are these examples pointless? They provide fun to a lot of people ( me included ) and that's the only criteria which counts in a videogame so they have a point or purpose.

^This.

And if it were to happen as future DLC, it would be optional to buy or not and why not let people who would like them in GT5 not have this option anyway?

When it comes down to, it doesn't matter how much we justify having bikes in Gran Turismo. If Kaz doesn't want it in, it's not going to go in. We can say that it wouldn't offend the other 90% of the fans, and we can say that it'll only take a bit of time, but that's irrelevant. If the bikes aren't going to be in the next Gran Turismo game, it's simply because they chose not to do it.

There are MANY choices of what to put in the game, but they chose Nascar, WRC, and go karts to be in the game because that's what they chose to put it in. :dunce:
 
So, my question to those who don't want bikes...

If you purchased GT5, went home and turned on the game, and you saw it had bikes; would you be upset/disappointed that it had them, or just not use them?
 
How on earth are these examples pointless? They provide fun to a lot of people ( me included ) and that's the only criteria which counts in a videogame so they have a point or purpose, maybe not to you but thankfully you're not in charge.

You go ahead and enjoy them, but to me they are a waste of space which could have been put to better use.
 
If there is no Bike in GT5, nothing would change for me.
If there is bikes in GT5, nothing would change for me, i will play with them, and that's all...
 
Nascar is pointless, only Americans could invent racing in circles so probably this is going to be one time race. Win and skip to other more interested part of GT5. WRC might be more interested. But we all have to wait :crazy:


No Americans didn't invent racing in circles see:

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THE CIRCUS:
ROMAN CHARIOT RACING


The first-century CE satirist Juvenal wrote, “Long ago the people shed their anxieties, ever since we do not sell our votes to anyone. For the people—who once conferred imperium, symbols of office, legions, everything—now hold themselves in check and anxiously desire only two things, the grain dole and chariot races in the Circus” (Satires 10.77-81). Juvenal's famous phrase, panem et circenses (“bread and circuses”) has become proverbial to describe those who give away significant rights in exchange for material pleasures. Juvenal has put his finger on two of the most important aspects of Roman chariot races—their immense popularity and the pleasure they gave the Roman people, and the political role they played during the empire in diverting energies that might otherwise have gone into rioting and other forms of popular unrest. The image above bears witness to the popularity of the races; found in the imperial baths in Trier (Germany), this centerpiece of a large mosaic floor depicts a charioteer for the Reds, holding in his hands the palm branch and laurel wreath, symbols of victory. Both the driver, Polydus, and his lead horse, Compressor, are identified by name, as though they were great state heroes. We can deduce something of the political role of chariot racing from the fact that the same word, factiones, was used to designate the four racing stables as had been applied to the political factions (the populares and the optimates) that had such large followings in the Republic.
[SIZE=+1]Origins:[/SIZE] Possibly the oldest spectacular sport in Rome, chariot racing dates back at least to the sixth century BCE. It was quite popular among the Etruscans, an advanced civilization of non-Italic people who for a time dominated the area around Rome and contributed greatly to many aspects of Roman civilization. We can also see depictions of chariot racing among the Lucanians of Sicily in the fifth century BCE. Among these peoples, races were associated with funeral games, and in Rome too they had religious ties, particularly to the chariot-driving deities Sol (the sun) and Luna (the moon), and to a god called Consus, an agricultural deity who presided over granaries. Originally chariot races (ludi circenses) were held only on religious festivals like the Consualia, but later they would also be held on non-feast days when sponsored by magistrates and other Roman dignitaries.
[SIZE=+1][SIZE=+2]CIRCUS MAXIMUS[/SIZE][/SIZE]
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Races were held in a circus, so named because of its oval shape. The oldest and largest circus in Rome was the Circus Maximus, built in a long valley stretching between two hills, the Aventine (bottom left in this model shown ) and the Palatine (top right). Originally there was no building, just a flat sandy track with temporary markers; spectators sat on the hill slopes on either side of the track. Gradually the area developed into a well-maintained stadium-style building with a central divider, starting gates at one end (top left in this picture) and an arch at the other, surrounded on three sides by stands (originally wooden but later made of stone). By the time of Augustus, the entire building was 620 meters long (678 yards) and about 140-150 meters (159 yards) at its widest point; its seating capacity was approximately 150,000 spectators. This is a plan of the Circus Maximus, and this reconstruction drawing of the circus from the starting gate end shows the construction of the stands. This terracotta lamp depicts a chariot race in the Circus Maximus; on the left one can see rows of spectators, on the right the starting gates, and at the bottom the spina with its statues and obelisks. The form of the circus closely followed its function; for further details about the various structures in the circus and how they related to the races, see starting gates, track, barrier, turning posts, finish line, stands, and imperial enclosure. Enjoy a virtual day at the races by visiting the Circus Maximus in Region XI of VRoma, either via the web gateway or the anonymous browser.


Americans only improved it this way:


 
You go ahead and enjoy them, but to me they are a waste of space which could have been put to better use.

Which if someone is trying to appeal to a wide audience, they'd go with his perspective, not yours. That's why I think Kaz went with so many features, to achieve variety and to please as much people as he can.
 
You go ahead and enjoy them, but to me they are a waste of space which could have been put to better use.

Oh I will ( and many others too ) and only for that reason they aren't pointless, pointless would be to include cars you couldn't drive in a driving game.
Pointless isn't including a large variety of totally different cars which almost certainly aren't each appreciated equally by everyone.
 
If there is no Bike in GT5, nothing would change for me.
If there is bikes in GT5, nothing would change for me, i will play with them, and that's all...

Ok, see i can understand your logic and appreciate your opinion. What seemed to be the case from other members was something different.

Something more like, "I don't like bikes and they shouldn't be in GT". Which seems like failed logic to me.
 
Great, now we've gone back to the topic of Bikes in GT5 (now made useless by the fact they officially aren't in).


In other news, I know many of you don't care for Nascar and blah blah blah, but this weekend is significant because the Gamestop Toyota that is in the game will race at Martinsville this sunday. So its ESPN for us americans and I'll try to find what the nearest tv channel broadcasting it is for any interested European viewers (last I checked it might be motors, but I could be wrong).
 
In other news, I know many of you don't care for Nascar and blah blah blah, but this weekend is significant because the Gamestop Toyota that is in the game will race at Martinsville this sunday. So its ESPN for us americans and I'll try to find what the nearest tv channel broadcasting it is for any interested European viewers (last I checked it might be motors, but I could be wrong).

The one with the GT5 livery?
 
Nascar is pointless, only Americans could invent racing in circles so probably this is going to be one time race. Win and skip to other more interested part of GT5. WRC might be more interested. But we all have to wait :crazy:

I am not a huge NASCAR fan but you sir are pretty ignorant.
 
Oh I will ( and many others too ) and only for that reason they aren't pointless, pointless would be to include cars you couldn't drive in a driving game.
Pointless isn't including a large variety of totally different cars which almost certainly aren't each appreciated equally by everyone.

Gran Turismo is a racing game, though it is called the real driving simulator it is ultimately a racer.
I cannot fathom how you think the model t and Daimler are relevant in gt.
I will go further and say that most people would not be bothered if these cars were not in and the space used to ad more cars to other dealerships or to bring more manufacturers to the game.
 

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