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[wajdi1977]

don't forget that in christmas 2010 we will have another race games realese like WRC AND F1 2010!!

 

[Rennsport]

You know, there are other games you can play.

Say whatever you want, but the hard fact is, PD , Sony and Kaz have put the consumer last.

 

[hardvibes]

What does that have to do with GT5?

Yes, it is. What does hideo Kojima have to do with GT5?

His game is being delayed too, he complaints and apologizes to the gamers even if it's not his responsability....and I really appreciate that even if I won't buy mgs (I don't have a psp).
What is PD doing about GT5 being delayed? Nothing, not to mention the lack of news in general.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

In 24 days, it will have been 5 years since Gran Turismo 4 was released in United States. In Japan, it's already been 5 years one month and a few days since Gran Turismo 4 was available to purchase.

Isn't the following the most scary thing of all?

Gran Turismo 3 came out in Japan on April 28th 2001. Exactly 3 years and 8 months later Gran Turismo 4 was released.
Now, whether or not Sony is behind this delay, Gran Turismo 5 is said to be about (only)90% complete. This is, again, 5 years one month and a few days. So what does this mean for Gran Turismo 6?

Note: The jump from Gran Turismo 2 to Gran Turismo 3, which is a complete system jump, was only 1 year and 4 months.

Gran Turismo: Japan: December 23rd, 1997

Gran Turismo 2: Japan: December 11th, 1999

Gran Turismo 3: Japan: April 28th, 2001

Gran Turismo 4: Japan: December 28th, 2004

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue: Japan: December 13th, 2007

Gran Turismo 5: TBA (to be announced)

 

[tinram]

When Sony say production issues, they mean what they are trying to do is avoid sales and distribution issues.

The PS3 itself was delayed too if you remember.

The Xbox 360, Wii, Wii Fit all released early and sold out within days, and it took months for stock to return. If the game is set for an Autumn release, they don't want the game to be out of stock before the Christmas rush.

Though I personally think they're just preparing for a simultaneous worldwide release. Sony know their games arn't region locked, they don't want a couple of million of their games being exported from Japan. Sony don't like exports of their goods, remember the lawsuit about the company(s) exporting PSPs from Japan.

Thanks for the clarification, Sony's play of words is still deceit.

 

[zod]

Alright, not REAL news but something:

First there was this news on the GT5 Driving Experience in Stuttgart on the german PS Blog: http://blog.de.playstation.com/2010...-gran-turismo-5-getestet-werden/#comment-4477

So I asked whether someone from PS Blog can go there and take some vids from the demo there: Not possible
I said that there should be more news from Gran Turismo 5 and the answer was somewhat like: I promise you, there will be plenty of News for GT5 if its getting closer, and if I say plenty I mean PLENTY.

Nothing new so far but later on he said something like: "Europe release has not been touched yet, so we have to be patient until fall"

Its not really official but maybe those guys at Sony already know that there will be no GT5 in summer ...or maybe its his personal guess, who knows

 

[Northstar]

Say whatever you want, but the hard fact is, PD , Sony and Kaz have put the consumer last.

Every company puts the customer last(or very close). In fact the only thing customer related they care about is that green stuff in your pocket.

 

[Lucas]

Gran Turismo 3 came out in Japan on April 28th 2001. Exactly 3 years and 8 months later Gran Turismo 4 was released.
Now, whether or not Sony is behind this delay, Gran Turismo 5 is said to be about (only)90% complete. This is, again, 5 years one month and a few days. So what does this mean for Gran Turismo 6?

Yeah, and Gran Turismo 3 had 500 less cars than GT2. Point?

Some people are forgetting that GT5 will have around 1000 cars. Which I find funny, since it's what they are interested the most in. GT5 was released one year and one month after the PS3 came out. So in that aspect, GT5 is very similar to GT3.

And, some people are also forgetting that there's no need to make GT6 from scratch.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

So, what does this mean for GT6 then? Less cars? Totally new code system like with GT5? You have to be somewhat worried or concerned. Because as I've seen, GT3 was done in less than 1.5 years and that's why it bombed. Yet, GT2 was made in 2 years after GT(1) and it was stellar compared it! Hard to predict what we'll get (but I believe GT5 will be like what GT3 should have been.) On a totally new system, but this time it will deliver, as GT3 did not.

 

[Lucas]

First of all, I can't because I don't have a PS3. If I had a PS3 like most of you, I would be terribly concerned.
And secondly, no. It can't have less cars if it's released for the PS3. Mainly, because it's in the same console, and it means you have most of the work done. GT2 had more cars than GT1 (PS1). Same with GT4 and GT3. You can see that graphics in games in the same console look a lot like each other, if not the same.

In my opinion it goes something like this:

1 - Work on GT5.
2 - Release GT5.
3 - "Alright, let's work on what we already have".
4 - ????
5 - GT6, basically GT5 with more cars and tracks, with maybe slightly better graphics, and better physics, more features and whatnot.

 

[hardvibes]

So, what does this mean for GT6 then? Less cars? Totally new code system like with GT5? You have to be somewhat worried or concerned. Because as I've seen, GT3 was done in less than 1.5 years and that's why it bombed. Yet, GT2 was made in 2 years and it was stellar. Hard to predict what we'll get (but I believe GT5 will be like what GT3 should have been.) New system, but this time it will deliver, as GT3 did not.

Why does it have to be like in the past? Actually in the past it was the opposite: new system (ps2), third chapter of GT, but with less stuff than GT2 on psx. A few years after GT4 came out with all that GT3 was missing.
I don't get your point.
Couldn't GT6 have all that GT5 has (will have) plus better graphics/physics/features more cars/tracks and so on?...

EDIT:

5 - GT6, basically GT5 with more cars and tracks, with maybe slightly better graphics, and better physics, more features and whatnot.

Exactly...

 

[SrRd RacinG]

First of all, I can't because I don't have a PS3. If I had a PS3 like most of you, I would be terribly concerned.
And secondly, no. It can't have less cars if it's released for the PS3

That's it! IF it's released on the PS3 console. That will be the million dollar question beginning now, and obviously once GT5 is released to the public. I hope it comes to the PS3 because, as you said, most of the work is done. But either way, whether the first GT title for the PS4 is GT6 or GT7 , we must realize that it might take some time to build!

 

[eSZee]

His game is being delayed too, he complaints and apologizes to the gamers even if it's not his responsability....and I really appreciate that even if I won't buy mgs (I don't have a psp).
What is PD doing about GT5 being delayed? Nothing, not to mention the lack of news in general.

As I said, has nothing to do with GT5. You just wish kaz said as Hideo did. Who cares.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

Why does it have to be like in the past? I don't get your point.
Couldn't GT6 have all that GT5 has (will have) plus better graphics/physics/features more cars/tracks and so on?...

If you're speaking of a complete system jump, it should clearly have more cars and look better. But PD will probably scrap the codes in order to prepare for the new system (just as we saw with GT4 on PS2 and GT5 on PS3). But if GT6 does make it to the PS3, then surely we could see an awesome title done it little time because the codes are already there.

My main point in this discussion is that we must be aware that when the first system jump came, the title suffered (GT3). Now, with this second jump, we are all a bit nervous and skeptical about a game that we are sacrificing many years for. And lastly what will the next jump hold? A 6.5 year wait? Maybe they can use the GT5 codes for GT6 (I'm no expert), to decrease the wait to only 4 years. I just do not know.

 

[hardvibes]

As I said, has nothing to do with GT5. You just wish kaz said as Hideo did. Who cares.

I do.

 

[FoolKiller]

As I said, it makes no sense to have this delay because of the other blockbuster games. They knew about the other blockbusters long before THEY gave us the march 2010 release date for japan. For them to go back on it a week or so later should worry a lot of us. Something unexpected must've happened or maybe they saw their financial reports, don't know when SONY usually does them, and they saw very worrying numbers. Then yes, maybe I'll buy it. They obviously had no problems telling us MARCH a few weeks ago fully knowing final fantasy whatnot and fod of war were coming out at the same time.

First off, I am not saying this is the reason for the delay, but I am explaining that the whole thought process of they will sell bunches at any time is a flawed argument.

Next, I am not sure how much Final Fantasy, a multiplatform title everywhere but Japan, will play in this. But there is Heavy Rain and God of War this quarter.

And that brings up one possible theory, that Sony's fiscal year 09 ends March 31st. The third quarter (Oct-Dec) showed higher than expected PS3 sales. Combine that with the expectations for Heavy Rain and God of War III, and Sony could have realized that they are already going to break their predictions for fiscal year 09. At that point loading another blockbuster in fiscal year '09 just reduces fiscal year 10 that much.

The reason why I am suspicious of that theory is that we are talking one day from presumed March 31st date to go from fiscal year 09 to fiscal year 10. The only way I can see this reasoning working out to be legitimate is if their decision to bump it back in Japan made them also decide to do a worldwide release, or try to add in some other functionality. But then it becomes a multi-pronged reason.

And I see that you are saying that they knew before what their release schedule was looking like. I agree, it is easy to look at that and think they can't be stupid enough to have suddenly looked up and said, "Wait a second." But I have sat in on enough Web conferences with executives and even worked on enough project plans to see something completely shut down the day before it is to be implemented. I have had my own project plan one day from activation when someone decided to actually look at it for the first time. Executives are in a position to tell you something is a good idea without them actually looking at it, and then they look at it later.


And to reiterate: I do not support this theory as definitely the cause. I actually have no theory as to the cause because I have seen how many variables can upset planned project dates. But if this turned out to be the reasoning I would not be surprised because I have seen way dumber things in my own career and seen Sony's PlayStation marketing make some bone headed moves this generation already.

 

[hardvibes]

If you're speaking of a complete system jump, it should clearly have more cars and look better. But PD will probably scrap the codes in order to prepare for the new system (just as we saw with GT4 on PS2 and GT5 on PS3). But if GT6 does make it to the PS3, then surely we could see an awesome title done it little time because the codes are already there.

My main point in this discussion is that we must be aware that when the first system jump came, the title suffered (GT3). Now, with this second jump, we are all a bit nervous and skeptical about a game that we are sacrificing many years for. And lastly what will the next jump hold? A 6.5 year wait? Maybe they can use the GT5 codes for GT6 (I'm no expert), to decrease the wait to only 4 years. I just do not know.

Back in august Kaz said GT6 won't take as much as GT5 to develop because they already have the new code...and he was talking about it being on ps3, not ps4.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

Back in august Kaz said GT6 won't take as much as GT5 to develop because they already have the new code...and he was talking about it on ps3, not a new system.

Well then that's good for GT6 and us fans! So I guess GT7 will be the loooonnng awaited title!

But again, it'll probably be up to Sony. Do they scrap the PS3 and start fresh with the PS4 and a killer GT6 title? Or do they put GT6 on PS3?

 

[Lucas]

That's it! IF it's released on the PS3 console. That will be the million dollar question beginning now, and obviously once GT5 is released to the public. I hope it comes to the PS3 because, as you said, most of the work is done. But either way, whether the first GT title for the PS4 is GT6 or GT7 , we must realize that it might take some time to build!

First of all, we don't know if there will be a GT6, or a PS4. But let's asume there will. Trust me, if Kazunori is half as smart most people say he is, then he will make GT6 for the PS3, and not the PS4.

However, if GT6 is to be released for the PS4, what does it matter to be honest? With around 1000 cars, many tracks, and online, you can do a lot of things, and I seriously mean a lot.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

First of all, we don't know if there will be a GT6, or a PS4. But let's asume there will. Trust me, if Kazunori is half as smart most people say he is, then he will make GT6 for the PS3, and not the PS4.

However, if GT6 is to be released for the PS4, what does it matter to be honest? With around 1000 cars, many tracks, and online, you can do a lot of things, and I seriously mean a lot.

Yes, but how would they be able to carry over the GT5 codes? If not, like I've been preaching, it may be a loooong while before we see it is released (because they'll have to start over from scratch). Soo....I guess it's all in the codes.

 

[eSZee]

And that brings up one possible theory, that Sony's fiscal year 09 ends March 31st. The third quarter (Oct-Dec) showed higher than expected PS3 sales. Combine that with the expectations for Heavy Rain and God of War III, and Sony could have realized that they are already going to break their predictions for fiscal year 09. At that point loading another blockbuster in fiscal year '09 just reduces fiscal year 10 that much.

yes, fiscal year 09 ends march 31st, that's why it was thought that they scheduled the march release to kick off the new year. But, waiting til fall ?

I do.

so put it in your sig and leave it alone. Hideo has nothing to do with GT5. Just cause you're upset that Kaz isn't doing the same, doesn't really matter.

 

[Leadfoot53]

Yes, but how would they be able to carry over the GT5 codes? If not, like I've been preaching, it may be a loooong while before we see it is released (because they'll have to start over from scratch). Soo....I guess it's all in the codes.

Maybe the PS4 would be a similar architecture as the PS3, so you could actually transfer codes over, and not start over...

 

[hardvibes]

so put it in your sig and leave it alone. Hideo has nothing to do with GT5. Just cause you're upset that Kaz isn't doing the same, doesn't really matter.

I think it is none of your concern...
There is certainly more crap out there you can complain about. Not my message since it's just information about a CEO in the same position as Kazunori. And in the middle there's always Sony.
You don't like it? Fine. But it may be interesting for someone else.

 

[tibiquera]

GT5 is not even out and people are already worried about GT6?

By the way, when I read the news section my reaction was to laugh. I don't know why, but I'm beginning to find it hilarious.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

GT5 is not even out and people are already worried about GT6?

How can you not? I realize we're getting ahead of ourselves somewhat, but if you analyze the potential of a GT6/PS4 release, you'll notice some interesting questions to ask yourself. But yea, we should be focusing on the upcoming title and let Sony, PD and GT6 have a deep conversation with each other next year.

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

The new one is actually quite good. The dark Resurrection thing was rushed and well lacking in content but cheap. Kinda like the GT Prologue of beat em ups

👍 + I seriously hope your analogy turns out to be correct regarding GT5! : )

What does hideo Kojima have to do with GT5?

Nothing. The fact that Hideo's statement is in his face of KY has....

 

[phil-t]

What's the problem? You keep talking about the problem, but you don't tell me what the problem is. Of course I can't see it, because you don't bother to point it out to me. Not knowing when to release the game? That's the problem? As I said, you can have a release date. They can change it if they want to, it's not like having a release date will make any difference whatsoever, speaking about GT5's actual release date of course.

The only problem I see is not Sony's. It's people's.



My perspective is that there's no problem with having no release date, because even if there was one, they can change it anytime they want. What's your perspective?



I never said it was good for Sony, if I recall correctly. What I said is that it is not a bad thing. Everyone who wants the game will buy it, even if it comes out in 2030.



Bottom line is that people don't care if Sony makes money or not, if Sony has difficulties or not making the game. They just want their game, as fast as possible. And that's the only problem I am able to see.

??? Yeah, OK.. talk about randomness..

How do we get from you mis-interpreting Kojima's comments,to this? I don't really know...

Back OT..

I can't see where GT6 is going to go, if we believe everything that is supposed to be in GT5, it feels difficult to see what on earth GT6 could offer, but I guess we can just wait and see..

 

[Lucas]

??? Yeah, OK.. talk about randomness..

How do we get from you mis-interpreting Kojima's comments,to this? I don't really know...

You should look no further than your own posts. All I did was post what I believed he wanted to say, and afterwards, my view on the subject. It's not a matter of "they should do this and that", it's a matter of what would you do in their position. It's easier said than done.

 

[tinram]

Back in august Kaz said GT6 won't take as much as GT5 to develop because they already have the new code...and he was talking about it being on ps3, not ps4.

GT6 will take just as long because Sony will decide to have "production issues" a few months before it's release date ( a release date that was not apparently mentioned ) even though they say it is 90 percent done and can be released anytime. So GT6 in 2030 sounds about right, all other racing games will be in their 10th - 12th release.

 

[Northstar]

Kaz said that, he also said GT4 would have online.

You can make whatever you want of that.