GT5 Latest News & Discussion

[Famine]

Yep, time flies... and hopefully all the way to the release date.

No argument here. It's looking like it'll be a slightly-late birthday present for me currently. Though I didn't tell no-one nuffink.

And chances are pretty high that GT5 will go 3D at some point. And we seem to agree on that it's not the 3D thing that is the reason why we haven't seen that release date yet.

It might be from a marketing standpoint, just not a technical one.

And after reading some more web articles (by which almost everyone is hopelessly without proper sources... god, someone has got to do something about this internet-thingy...) I'm getting a slightly new picture of the AI improvements. One source stated pretty clearly that it was in fact AI modifications that had caused the japanese release date to be cancelled, but in some other sources it appears that these AI modifications has been going on scince at least 2007, so there shouldn't be THAT much work left to do on that specific area (unless they were so unsatisfied with how it turned out that they had to start pretty much all over again?). Maybe it's just some general polishing? Maybe it's the weather dynamics? Maybe it's marketing reasons? I really don't have any ideas on what it could be anymore. But my personal hope is that they are adding some artificial adrenaline to the artificial intelligence... (and building kick-ass weather & daylight dynamics)

It has to be said that Sony and PD are aware of and read this forum - amongst many others - which was primarily the reason we were invited to the GT Academy event. The backlash on here and others regarding the first damage videos in... November was it... played no small part in a "re-engineering" of that particular effect. It's not a huge stretch to imagine that every "thought" on here can lead to a adjustment in the product we will get.

To misquote "It's a Wonderful Life", every time an ingrate grumps, GT5 is delayed another couple of months.

 

[torontoml]

No argument here. It's looking like it'll be a slightly-late birthday present for me currently. Though I didn't tell no-one nuffink.

That sucks I really wanted a mid-late summer release, but my birthday sounds like it would coincide with you slightly late present.

 

[Owen.C93]

No argument here. It's looking like it'll be a slightly-late birthday present for me currently. Though I didn't tell no-one nuffink.

17th of September it is then

 

[Famine]

That sucks I really wanted a mid-late summer release, but my birthday sounds like it would coincide with you slightly late present.

If you take 3D-marketing as a reason, either makes sense. June/July to sell consoles and 3DTVs to early-adopters, autumn to sell consoles once the market penetration of 3DTVs is higher.

17th of September it is then

A couple of months ago, I jokingly made a comment about "the second week in July". Of course, as a page flipped over and the original gag got lost, people started taking it seriously.

In summary, I hate you.

 

[fasj6418]

I think the feedback after seeing the damage was pretty much expected, unless they live in a different world.

I'm glad it's been worked out, and that also gives them time to work on different areas of the game.

Sucks to have the game delayed, but, hopefully they are taking notes and it is for the best.

 

[Owen.C93]

a couple of months ago, i jokingly made a comment about "the second week in july". Of course, as a page flipped over and the original gag got lost, people started taking it seriously.

In summary, i hate you.

 

[robin91]

is there any info about the tuning and styling abilities i gt5 ? , is in going to be more in depth and better than gt4?

 

[Strittan]

You so dying to see NASCAR (with 16 cars as seen on trailers),"damage" (don't know why we need it), Motion Controller (WTF?), 3D (can easely comes with patch) or maybe another ~150 cars?
You want those NOT VERY IMPORTANT things so badly that you can wait for it another YEAR? (as Kaz mentioned at E3 - "comes VERY soon, sooner than you think" - expected OCT-NOV 2009,but now expected OCT NOV 2010...)

I'd rather play GT5 without NASCAR, "damage", even WRC but right now - i can play it another 2 years before GT6 comes out (at latest PS3 days).
To say I'm playing GT4 right now instead of Prologue...

Surely it's my own opinion but there is many good reasons for this opinion.

(don't get me wrong - PD and KAZ are genius - I trust them, but GT5 is REALLY very first game that i wait soooo long and it's soooo painful!!!)

What? I just said I don't want GT5 to be split into 2 or more games! Sorry, but I don't even get what you're trying to say.

They shouldn't have released GT5 Prologue either in my opinion. I think it takes away from the finished product.

What PD should have done, is to keep it a secret 'till the game is finished, then reveal it and release it just a couple of weeks later. My guess is that they would have been done much earlier that way too. But that's just what I think.

 

[alucard0712]

I mean that GT5 is HUGE, and because of this comes very late.And i wish rather than that to have 2 games, one (GT5) to released last Christmas (or even earlier), and another (GT6) - 2 years ago (1.5 years from now).No quality will be sacrificed.
(sorry for eng!)

 

[Seismica]

I mean that GT5 is HUGE, and because of this comes very late.And i wish rather than that to have 2 games, one (GT5) to released last Christmas (or even earlier), and another (GT6) - 2 years ago (1.5 years from now).No quality will be sacrificed.
(sorry for eng!)

No, but we would be paying double for the same content.

It also means that GT6 would suck because it would add so little that was new to the game, and it would get low reviews.

It also means that online and after-sales support for GT5 would be rubbish, as PD would focus on GT6 once that has been released.

And to be fair, they did release GT5P, which was a very early version of GT5, so that fans of the series didn't have to wait so long.

The development of GT5 is and has been a long and ongoing process. What you assume is that they could prioritise certain things, and then proceed to release an unfinished game. GT2 had drag cars but no drag strip. GT3 was rushed to release and although it was a good game, it could have been so much better. It was extremely low on content in comparison to GT2 and brought little new to the game except graphics and physics, which were just a result of the more powerful hardware. GT4 was supposed to have network features and it didn't.

Are you saying that PD should have done what they have done in the past, whereby they release a game early to try to satisfy the fans. But then those same fans would complain about the game being unfinished, they can't win. This time PD have put a lot of effort in trying to put together a finished game. They could have easily got ~200 cars and ~30 tracks, used the physics and graphics from GTHD and thrown together a GT5P-style online mode and a GT4-style GT mode, and released the full game way back in 2007. I would not have been satisfied with that. KY wanted to improve upon GT4 in every aspect. He wants to cater for a wider audience and satisfy more people (NASCAR and WRC). As Famine stated 3D was no big deal to develop.

And by the way, GT6 is going to build on GT5s code and developed on the PS3 (Not the PS4 contrary to some peoples beliefs). So we will probably see that ~2 years from now anyway.

 

[alucard0712]

You right too.
(I don't worry about money at all.Don't we bought GT5P?GT6 is after 2 years,50 bucks in 2 years for great game - not much,we spending on beer like 10 times much of that)

 

[Frozzy]

I don't think too many people will be using 3D but I don't see why not.

 

[torontoml]

You right too.
(I don't worry about money at all.Don't we bought GT5P?GT6 is after 2 years,50 bucks in 2 years for great game - not much,we spending on beer like 10 times much of that)

Although the money part was one of his points, the main one is that they would have released two unfinished games, instead of a single complete game. And with that single game PD will be able to get the next game and maybe even the one after that out much quicker due to the vast size of this iteration.

 

[Northstar]

And by the way, GT6 is going to build on GT5s code and developed on the PS3 (Not the PS4 contrary to some peoples beliefs). So we will probably see that ~2 years from now anyway.

In 2 years the next generation of consoles should start rolling out. Depending on Sony's plans they will also be having a new console(unless they want to be the next Sega). It would be stupid to release one of your biggest games on the PS3 when the new Sony console is also being released. If there is a GT6 chances are it will be a launch title for the new console.

Also: Yes, I know the whole Sony "10 year span" thing but they will probably do what they have done with the PS and PS2 and continue supporting it after the newer system is out.

 

[alucard0712]

Who talking about unfinished games?No NASCAR, no damage, no weather, less cars, less tracks, no GPS and we ALREADY have GT4 size game but at new level.I can live with that 3 years...before Ultimate GT6 comes in with all of that!

(Sorry me but i don't see point to discuss it. (because i'm alone and strange to say - i love what PD doing right now, even their "no spoiler" politics, it's JUST a opinion.like some "maybe", nothing deadly serious)

 

[Dan_]

[..] * Long and reasonable comment * [...]

....And by the way, GT6 is going to build on GT5s code and developed on the PS3 (Not the PS4 contrary to some peoples beliefs). So we will probably see that ~2 years from now anyway.

Well said, but mostly ^^ , I'm hoping GT6 to be built on the GT5 code, so we might see some performance improvement, meaning we will do get some more room for interesting add-ons in GT6 ( skidmarks on the way pals, stop complaining please ), and a new load of exciting cars ( there's many cars to be released within 2011 and 2012 ( MP4-12C, Pagani C9, 911(998), Lambo Jota, New Esprit ).

Also, if GT6 is already planned and GT5 is finished, why PD don't start modeling the cars for GT6 right now? C'mon PD, fly to Germany and go see that E30 M3 we're all waiting for. Who needs vacation after all? 💡

 

[6ix]

Sorry, will have it resprayed again next week in baby blue, this was a busy week travelling around the country shocking people it seems.

Quickly now! It's getting worse!

I found out they are rental cars from Hertz. O_o

 

[analog]

Quickly now! It's getting worse!
I found out they are rental cars from Hertz. O_o

Ah, i see i finally get some recognition.

 

[dbarrade]

It is sad, but I believe the window for Sony releasing GT5 and people buying it instead of pirating it is rapidly closing:

http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/04/otheros-supported-on-321oo.html

Geohot already has custom firmware up and running on the PS3 with OtherOS support re-enabled.

Surely it won't be long now before custom firmware letting you copy games to the hard drive is released.

It would be a great blow to Sony to see its biggest franchise GT5 as the first game released after piracy happens on the PS3, November is a long way off and GeoHot seems to be making progress very quickly now.

 

[djanikowski]

It is sad, but I believe the window for Sony releasing GT5 and people buying it instead of pirating it is rapidly closing:

http://geohotps3.blogspot.com/2010/04/otheros-supported-on-321oo.html

Geohot already has custom firmware up and running on the PS3 with OtherOS support re-enabled.

Surely it won't be long now before custom firmware letting you copy games to the hard drive is released.

It would be a great blow to Sony to see its biggest franchise GT5 as the first game released after piracy happens on the PS3, November is a long way off and GeoHot seems to be making progress very quickly now.

So you are going to buy a blu ray burner and a blank blu ray just so you can have GT5?

 

[Strittan]

Well said, but mostly ^^ , I'm hoping GT6 to be built on the GT5 code, so we might see some performance improvement, meaning we will do get some more room for interesting add-ons in GT6 ( skidmarks on the way pals, stop complaining please ), and a new load of exciting cars ( there's many cars to be released within 2011 and 2012 ( MP4-12C, Pagani C9, 911(998), Lambo Jota, New Esprit ).

Also, if GT6 is already planned and GT5 is finished, why PD don't start modeling the cars for GT6 right now? C'mon PD, fly to Germany and go see that E30 M3 we're all waiting for. Who needs vacation after all? 💡

Easy now fella. It may just be me, but I don't wish for GT6 to come on the PS3. It should be for the PS4. Why? Well, it should be obvious if you think for a short while...

Would you rather buy a new game instead of be given free updates for a game you already have!? Also, the friends you play with online may not get GT6, or perhaps they get it but you don't have the money to, so the online rooms are soon getting empty. Get what I'm trying to say?

EDIT: I would actually be very surprised, and pretty damn disapointed if GT6 comes to the PS3. There is simply nothing to add, is there? Don't say cars because GT5 will have 1000+ of 'em and none of us knows which kinds...

 

[Seismica]

Easy now fella. It may just be me, but I don't wish for GT6 to come on the PS3. It should be for the PS4. Why? Well, it should be obvious if you think for a short while...

Would you rather buy a new game instead of be given free updates for a game you already have!? Also, the friends you play with online may not get GT6, or perhaps they get it but you don't have the money to, so the online rooms are soon getting empty. Get what I'm trying to say?

I think that would depend entirely on how far on Sony are with the PS4's development.

If the '10 year life' for the PS3 is true, I would much prefer a PS3 release, because I'm not waiting until 2017 for GT6, i'd rather have a 2012-2014 release of a GT5 crammed with a lot more content and features. Of course, if the PS4 is well under development now I see no reason why we won't get a PS4 release for GT6, but the wait will possibly be longer than the wait for GT5, depending on how far PD want to go with it.

EDIT: The jump from PS2 to PS3 was huge. The jump from PS3 to PS4 will not be as big, because at the moment PD are having to optimise the game to fit within the limits of the hardware. Presumably with a PS4, they could just add extra effects like Anti-aliasing, better lighting/shadows, more detailed textures, better draw distance on circuits, and most importantly more cars on the track. So development wise, the jump isn't actually that large, because the existing car models will not need improving, they just need to add affects which they have probably already tried out on the existing hardware (But that had to be sacrificed to keep the solid framerate).

 

[Lucas]

What Seismica said. 👍

If you expect a much better game than GT5 on an entirely new system, prepare for a long wait...

 

[djs]

And by the way, GT6 is going to build on GT5s code and developed on the PS3 (Not the PS4 contrary to some peoples beliefs). So we will probably see that ~2 years from now anyway.

We've come to a point that we're more sure about GT6's release than GT5's...

 

[Strittan]

I think that would depend entirely on how far on Sony are with the PS4's development.

If the '10 year life' for the PS3 is true, I would much prefer a PS3 release, because I'm not waiting until 2017 for GT6, i'd rather have a 2012-2014 release of a GT5 crammed with a lot more content and features. Of course, if the PS4 is well under development now I see no reason why we won't get a PS4 release for GT6, but the wait will possibly be longer than the wait for GT5, depending on how far PD want to go with it.

Well, if GT5 is as good as I expect it to be, I have no problem waiting for GT6 another 7-8 years. As long as they give us updates and add ons I'll be good. Track packs containing 5 new real life tracks for let's say 5 bucks, and free updates which could improve the online mode, fix bugs and so on.

The thing is that they've worked so long with GT5 that I can't picture them releasing another game for this generation. PS2 was a different story, on which GT3 did not have very many cars and tracks, and it was released early for that generation. GT4 had circa four times the amount of cars, and twice the amount of tracks, and the graphics and physics was far improved. GT4 made sense, but GT6 for PS3 wouldn't IMO...

 

[analog]

Maybe GT6 will be the first GT game on two generations of PS-consoles if the introduction of PS4 will follow shortly after its release ( some sort of port ).
Anyway, as mentioned before it is somewhere in the distant future, as opposed to GT5 which we can now hopefully safely assume is at least in the near future.

 

[Captain Roh]

If I can take this discussion back ever so slightly, I find it real hard to believe that GTP is pushing PS3 to it's limit. I'm not the most technically savvy when it comes to tvs, so I'm guessing from most people on here confirming frame tear on Gtp, that there is no way to prevent it? Is it really inconceavable to think GT5 will have found a way? Maybe the GT5 code has access to PS3 architecture like never before, freeing up RAM or making compromises elsewhere. Again, not so technically minded so bear that in mind before shooting me down

On a side note, is there any way to check my tv and ps3 are perfectly optimized?

 

[Rutter200_VR46]

We've come to a point that we're more sure about GT6's release than GT5's...

👍

 

[GTP_rpm]

I'm now officially bored of waiting.

I wasn't before, I could enjoy Prologue still - but after GT Academy, I tried going back to Prologue but it felt even worse than it did before.

Only been turning my PS3 on for Supersonic Acrobatic Rocket-Powered Battle-Cars.

...on the plus side, I'm now running in two rFactor leagues. Still in the MOFO League, but now running in the PitonHeads 2010 F1 mod shadow series...

 

[Sele1981]

Funny this waiting time... We don´t get any official piece of info for such a long time... How stupid Sony, how stupid... How can they ignore the GT fans so much? Those ***** with their **** move and 3D ****

I´m very sure it´s not PD´s fault and I´m sure mr. Yamauchi wishes that he would not be an Sony "developer?"