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The fact of the matter is, Kaz has made it abundantly clear that his primary concern is modelling accuracy. That's well and good, but I don't need a screw accurately rendered on the bottom of the back bumper, near the exhaust. Having "Premium" shouldn't be a feature... what other game has two seperate tiers of model quality? It's poor planning, that's all; if they realized their models were taking too long to complete, they should've scaled back their goals so that all cars were modelled to the same level. Nobody's going to look at Prologue and say it looks like crap. I'm not saying the newest stuff isn't fantastic looking, because it is, without a doubt... but at the expense of other features.

It's a strange contradiction to have on the one hand perfectly recreated Premium cars with details no one really asked for ( besides Kaz himself ) and on the other hand the question mark still hanging around the Standard cars being up to par with what was offered in Prologue ( interior view mostly ).
This seems rather strange to me as well since he's a perfectionist so I can only agree with your assumption of poor planning or being overambitious.

Don't get me wrong, I love the amount of detail fetisjism displayed on those Premium models but not at the cost of the majority of other cars not being up to Prologue's standard ( if they were, I really wouldn't mind to be honest ).
And I find it strange some say we should be satisfied with those 800 cars being more or less graphically upgraded GT4 models as if expecting more somehow makes you sound like a spoiled child.

I didn't really ask for anything more than Prologue with more cars and more tracks to be honest and everything added so far has been a huge bonus ( damage, etc. ) but I didn't really expect a new feature introduced in Prologue on all cars bar one ( interior view ) could possibly be implemented on a minority of cars in the full game.
And this also comes from a huge fan since the very first GT.
 
The more I watch all this, and the more it all sinks in... the more I'm actually worried.

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And before I get all the fanboys up in arms, this is all coming from a fan, who will almost definitely be buying on release day. I hope I'm proved wrong on all fronts!

The game is all new, a superb achievement over everything GT4 has done, Kaz told us to expect perfection, and it takes time. I'm fine with the Premium cars, they're building the car library progressively, maybe the standard cars become Premium cars in the next iterations of the game? Kaz is trying to set the bar even higher, let's support him. :)

But I like your comment, it was a reasonable and rational note of concern. 👍
 
The game is all new, a superb achievement over everything GT4 has done, Kaz told us to expect perfection, and it takes time. I'm fine with the Premium cars, they're building the car library progressively, maybe the standard cars become Premium cars in the next iterations of the game? Kaz is trying to set the bar even higher, let's support him. :)

But I like your comment, it was a reasonable and rational note of concern. 👍

Maybe GT5P cars are standard and premiums are the next step up. Perhaps PD will update the standard cars to premium status over time to prepare them for GT6. We will start to find these things out in the next few months or maybe after November when we all have the game.
 
Ease up guys 16 cars on screen are back :

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The more I watch all this, and the more it all sinks in... the more I'm actually worried.

The fact of the matter is, Kaz has made it abundantly clear that his primary concern is modelling accuracy. That's well and good, but I don't need a screw accurately rendered on the bottom of the back bumper, near the exhaust...

Look, they wanted to give us car nuts as many cars as possible, for which we should be thankfull. The 800 standard cars are standard because they already modeled them for GT3 ,4, PSP. The other 200 are a nice bonus and on top of that a nice showcase of what the ps3 is capable of.:)
 
I don't mind that so long as you can back up your GT5 game save to an external device.

GT5's career mode is so extensive there needs to be a means to back up your game save otherwise potentially many hours of game time will be lost in the event of a console failure.

You can use a USB Pen to back-up the save on GT5P (go to Game - Save Data Utility PS3 - Select the save game - triangle - copy - and on destination choose USB Device), so I think "removing" that possibility is even unlikelier than 800 cars without cockpits.

But you never know, until we have 1st hand confirmation :rolleyes:
 
It's a strange contradiction to have on the one hand perfectly recreated Premium cars with details no one really asked for ( besides Kaz himself ) and on the other hand the question mark still hanging around the Standard cars being up to par with what was offered in Prologue ( interior view mostly ).
This seems rather strange to me as well since he's a perfectionist so I can only agree with your assumption of poor planning or being overambitious.

Don't get me wrong, I love the amount of detail fetisjism displayed on those Premium models but not at the cost of the majority of other cars not being up to Prologue's standard ( if they were, I really wouldn't mind to be honest ).
And I find it strange some say we should be satisfied with those 800 cars being more or less graphically upgraded GT4 models as if expecting more somehow makes you sound like a spoiled child.

I didn't really ask for anything more than Prologue with more cars and more tracks to be honest and everything added so far has been a huge bonus ( damage, etc. ) but I didn't really expect a new feature introduced in Prologue on all cars bar one ( interior view ) could possibly be implemented on a minority of cars in the full game.
And this also comes from a huge fan since the very first GT.

I'm glad I can get some reasonable responses. See, I wouldn't have minded more cars on Prologue's level either. It just seems odd that we might actually see some backpeddling here. I'm sure I'll get the "spoiled kid" comment from some people, but I don't think it's unreasonable to call it lazy if 80% of the cars in the game are just recycled GT4 models, bumped up in poly count and optimized for the PS3 engine. We were told ages ago that all cars were all new and they were recycling zero from the old games, hence the time delay. And many members used that as justification for the huge lead time. If it turns out to be untrue... then really, what were we waiting for?

Look, they wanted to give us car nuts as many cars as possible, for which we should be thankfull. The 800 standard cars are standard because they already modeled them for GT3 ,4, PSP. The other 200 are a nice bonus and on top of that a nice showcase of what the ps3 is capable of.:)

...it's not much of a bonus if we're getting a majority of recycled material. It'd be acceptable if it was 2 years ago. We're now quite a ways into the PS3's lifecycle; we shouldn't be getting a nice bonus showcase of what the PS3 is capable of, the entire car lineup should hit it. That was always the promise.

I'm just saying I would've been more than happy with models of Prologue's quality. Having individual bolts rendered on a Nascar does very, very little to improve the game, especially at the expense of further limiting this "Premium" business. It just strikes me as odd that its considered a "feature" around these parts, but if another racing game tried this, it wouldn't be considered nearly as positive.
 
KAZ:
The final number of tracks hasn't been fixed yet. #KY #Honda #E3

There might be something from LMS or ALMS could be added. ^KY #Honda #E3

Regarding interior view...do you mean you would want a black frame interior view? ^KY #Honda #E3

I don't think Bernie Echolstone won't allow F1 ^KY #Honda #E3

Regarding weather effects...rain, etc... Maybe. ^KY #Honda #E3

# In that case, it would be technically possible. ^KY #Honda #E3
By blackframe, I meant same as in PSP (re: cockpit view) ^KY #Honda #E3
Kaz you frickin' circus monkey! Full of tricks arent you?

Either HONDA needs a new TWEETMASTER or KAZ NEEDS A NEW TRANSLATOR, jesus he sounds like George W. sometimes.

The Debate rages on even more shrouded in confusion than ever, black frame? fml.
 
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''Regarding interior view...do you mean you would want a black frame interior view?'' - Kazunori Yamauchi at Honda interview June 17th 2010.
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