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[chepe371]

For those still hoping, here I am to crush those hopes.
http://playstationlifestyle.net/2010/06/17/need-for-speed-nabs-porsche-exclusive/

I hate money.

EA is like the puppy mill of devs.

That's Madden, thats NHL, thats Fifa, Thats NFs, thats TIger Woods.

 

[mr_VOLCANO]

The part I don't get is the "exclusive". That will not sell more NFS, or less GT5. It just deprives us of one of the most interesting manufacturers in the GT platform.

Was thinking exactly the same.. Really dont get it...

 

[Skidmark]

So reaching potential buyers of your product "doesn't matter".

Hmmmm, that must be a revolutionary new corporate strategy I havn't heard about.

I don't agree that a video game would move any supercars from showrooms.

Do you really think that someone picking up this game with £60,000+ looking for a high performance / supercar hasn't heard or considered porsche before playing?

To be honest I would buy a car on the back of a test drive and doing some proper research not on the back of playing a video game.

Before you say anything I was a car salesman in a Honda dealership for years and not once did I sell a car on the back of a videogame. If I had tried to sell a NSX or S2000 by comparing it to a video game I think the people would have laughed at me. A customer never said to me " does it handle like it does in NFS? "

You need to seperate real life and videogames.

 

[SuperShouden]

I don't agree that a video game would move any supercars from showrooms.

Do you really think that someone picking up this game with £60,000+ looking for a high performance / supercar hasn't heard or considered porsche before playing?

To be honest I would buy a car on the back of a test drive and doing some proper research not on the back of playing a video game.

Actually, Gran Turismo has increased the sales and popularity of a lot of cars. That's why the US now has the Skyline, Lancer Evolution and Subaru WRX among others.

 

[HN7]

Actually, Gran Turismo has increased the sales and popularity of a lot of cars. That's why the US now has the Skyline, Lancer Evolution and Subaru WRX among others.

I think Fast and Furious series has more to do with it. It is the case with the R33, R34 Skyline anyway. The demand for them sky rocket after the movie

 

[SuperShouden]

I think Fast and Furious series has more to do with it.

nope. the reason why they were in Fast and Furious was because they were in Gran Turismo. GT4 also increased popularity and sales of vehicles like Spyker, which was virtually unknown until GT4.

 

[Skidmark]

Actually, Gran Turismo has increased the sales and popularity of a lot of cars. That's why the US now has the Skyline, Lancer Evolution and Subaru WRX among others.

Nothing to do with car magazines or shows like Top Gear absolutely raving about them?

Some people seem to think that GT makes the entire world go round and its somehow involved in the meaning of life.

I love GT don't get me wrong but its a videogame, just take it for what it is.

This is going down the same road as people that blame murders on videogames. I think thats complete rubbish, the same way I look at videogames influencing society in general.

Videogames don't cause murders and people don't buy cars on the back of driving a Honda Jazz around the streets of Madrid in GT.

 

[Tired Tyres]

Nothing to do with car magazines or shows like Top Gear absolutely raving about them?

Some people seem to think that GT makes the entire world go round and its somehow involved in the meaning of life.

I love GT don't get me wrong but its a videogame, just take it for what it is.

This is going down the same road as people that blame murders on videogames. I think thats complete rubbish, the same way I look at videogames influencing society in general.

Videogames don't cause murders and people don't buy cars on the back of driving a Honda Jazz around the streets of Madrid.

All forms of advertising sell cars. Video games are no different. Junior has a favourite car in GT, grows up and buys from the same manufacturer. Simple as that really.

 

[Skidmark]

I agree it raises awareness of the brand and the models.

However I still don't think that someone will walk into a dealer and just drop a load of cash on the back of a testdrive on GT.

 

[STJ88]

Actually, Gran Turismo has increased the sales and popularity of a lot of cars. That's why the US now has the Skyline, Lancer Evolution and Subaru WRX among others.

In my situation that's the case, because of gran-turismo i became a big JDM fan and ended up buying a R33 gts25t.

 

[Skidmark]

In my situation that's the case, because of gran-turismo i became a big JDM fan and ended up buying a R33 gts25t.

Then I will stand corrected.

I still never had a GT conversation with a customer when I was selling cars though. Maybe I should have tried it.

 

[HN7]

All forms of advertising sell cars. Video games are no different. Junior has a favourite car in GT, grows up and buys from the same manufacturer. Simple as that really.

+1 million. We all have a car we love as a kid and want to buy when we grow up. I bought my RX-7 recently not because of the way they drive in NFS or GT, or the fact that it was featured in F&F but because it was shown to me and I like the look. So all car company's marketing department need to do is get their car out there, doesn't matter in what form.

 

[fasj6418]

What bothers about the Porsche deal is this:

Need fos Speed games always have street Porsche models, the only one to have racing Porsches was NFS Porsche Unleashed, back in 1999.

And to me, the models i want to drive the most, are the racing ones.

I hate what EA is doing because they are wasting the license and denying us the privilege to drive all those great Le Mans, GT2, GT3 Porsche models.

I can't understand how PD couldn't even get a license like this, just for the race cars, since EA does not use it.

It would solve the problem, because we would drive the steet models as RUF, and the racing ones from Porsche.

In the end, it's just a shame that RUF does not have any racing models. The solution, however, is not rocket science. PD just needs to give us LM speacial version of the RUF's and we're set.

 

[Tired Tyres]

I'm getting a Ruf concept by Gran Turismo feeling!

 

[STJ88]

Then I will stand corrected.

I still never had a GT conversation with a customer when I was selling cars though. Maybe I should have tried it.

Or initial D, lots of people got to know jdm cars that way.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

In my situation that's the case, because of gran-turismo i became a big JDM fan and ended up buying a R33 gts25t.

There you go.

I've already said it is primarily a exposure situation.

One of the first rules of marketing is:

"People can't buy your product if they don't know about it."

If exposure is not important, why do companies spend multi millions on advertising.

The primary sponser deal on a Sprint cup car is between 25-50 million.

The other part of the exposure coin is "numbers of people reached".

With the sales potential of GT5, its a no brainer.


EDIT: BTW why wouldn't one of the most prestigious performance car builders in the world, not be in the most prestigious car game in the world?

 

[Skidmark]

There you go.

I've already said it is primarily a exposure situation.

One of the first rules of marketing is:

"People can't buy your product if they don't know about it."

If exposure is not important, why do companies spend multi millions on advertising.

The primary sponser deal on a Sprint cup car is between 25-50 million.

The other part of the exposure coin is "numbers of people reached".

With the sales potential of GT5, its a no brainer.

I did get a bit sidetracked by the guys who bought a car from wanting one as a kid. I understand that.

With regards to buying a porsche though I still stand by the fact I don't agree that a serious car buyer looking to drop £60,000+ on a supercar will not have heard of porsche before playing NFS.

 

[Angerdx]

With recent EA/Sony announcments during E3 we might get some porsches at some point in time as their relationship seems to be better than ever, however its just my wishful thinking, but who knows what really goes on in the head of the peaople in charge these days. heh

 

[Skidmark]

Don't suppose it disclosed how long that deal runs for did it?

I wonder if anyone is signed exclusively to PD?

 

[Dan_]

I wouldn't bet on that, since PD never puts in money when negotiating with manufactures, they prefer to trust in building a "relationship", as it was with Nissan, as is happening now with Mercedes.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

I did get a bit sidetracked by the guys who bought a car from wanting one as a kid. I understand that.

With regards to buying a porsche though I still stand by the fact I don't agree that a serious car buyer looking to drop £60,000+ on a supercar will not have heard of porsche before playing NFS.

What is the closest representation of a car you can get, next to going down to the dealer and test driving one?

Let me take a guess....................GT5.

How accurate is it ? As close as your going to get, next to that test drive.


EDIT: Why do you suppose Dale Earnhardt Jr. told NASCAR, Kaz is the guy they need to talk to about making the next NASCAR game?

 

[Tenacious D]

I wouldn't bet on that, since PD never puts in money when negotiating with manufactures, they prefer to trust in building a "relationship", as it was with Nissan, as is happening now with Mercedes.

On top of that, I doubt SONY is willing to pay the extortionate amount necessary to acquire a Porsche sub-license, when they can save all that money and use RUF. Micro$oft doesn't mind, because a monopoly is almost made of money.

And on the car sales debate, GT4 whittled down my serious car choices considerably, and made me want a Toyota Supra. I owned two, and one is my current ride.

 

[Vincent Viceroy]

I just hope that this time, for the sake of a good endurance race, tyre degradation is accurate because in other GT's it's been less than realistic...having to change tyres way too early.

 

[Tired Tyres]

I just hope that this time, for the sake of a good endurance race, tyre degradation is accurate because in other GT's it's been less than realistic...having to change tyres way too early.

Agreed x10,000,000

 

[SuperShouden]

With recent EA/Sony announcments during E3 we might get some porsches at some point in time as their relationship seems to be better than ever, however its just my wishful thinking, but who knows what really goes on in the head of the peaople in charge these days. heh

don't get too excited about it. You have to remember the only other game to feature Porsches is Forza Motorsport. If everyone remembers correctly, EA let their exclusive contracts with Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche run out after HP2. The fact that Forza has it and GT doesn't would imply that Microsoft bought the exclusive license with the agreement that EA could still use the cars.

Also, in GT3, PD tried to sneak in Kaz's personal Porsche 911 GT3, but Porsche caught them and now the only way to get it is through a cheating device.

However, that said, Volkswagen now owns Porsche (which is very ironic), so, who knows, maybe we'll see Porsche in the future. (BTW, the only reason why we have Lambo and Ferrari is because they, along with NASCAR, said they would never have an exclusive license again.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

don't get too excited about it. You have to remember the only other game to feature Porsches is Forza Motorsport. If everyone remembers correctly, EA let their exclusive contracts with Ferrari, Lamborghini and Porsche run out after HP2. The fact that Forza has it and GT doesn't would imply that Microsoft bought the exclusive license with the agreement that EA could still use the cars.

Right, you are.

 

[SuperShouden]

soo....TGS 2010 should reveal a smidge more info and then, if the rumors are right, then everything thing will be revealed at GamesCom in August. Supposedly the final game in it's entirety will be on display in August. However, that doesn't mean that the GamesCom version will be the final version. they essentially have until October 2nd (30-31 days from release) to get the game finished. 'Cause on 10.2.2010, there should be an announcement of GT5 going gold. That means after Gamescom, PD still will have about 2 months to tinker.

 

[Jarmo]

I just hope that this time, for the sake of a good endurance race, tyre degradation is accurate because in other GT's it's been less than realistic...having to change tyres way too early.

Well in a recent interview Kaz said that this time they have been working on with how the tires and road react together. This could mean a bunch of things but I'm hopeful.

 

[opladener]

Re: People can't buy your product, if they don't know about it:

Porsche, like most super/luxury car manufacturers does not need any advertisement.
You know what a Porsche is, even if you have no idea about cars at all.

How often do you see Porsche commercials compared to other car manufacturers ?
They are quite rare

Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, Rolls Royce - I've never seen a commercial for one of those either, they just don't need to.

No one is going to play NFS and then suddenly think: Oh, I'm going to buy a Porsche as my next car.

 

[SuperShouden]

that's because NFS is an acrade racer. GT is a simulation. two completely different animals. Also, every time I watch an endurance race on Speed, I see at least one Porsche commercial.