GT5 Master Car List

just put the 800 from GT4 in it

Which would be impressive, since GT4 only ever had 725.

So many uninteresting cars in it. What would you rather drive? , the latest , fastest and most exotic supercars like the Pagani Zonda Cinque or a Koeningsegg Agera or drive some 15 year old japanese scrap.

Depends. A knife-edge tricky drama queen hypercar can be very wearing, very quickly.

Which would you rather modify? A car that's already at the limits of what it can achieve or a two-box which is nowhere near.


It's the same story like in GT4. There just arent enough supercars in it.

And I'll wager you still haven't even driven all of them.

Id rather have the carlist from NFS Hot Pursuit then the current carlist.

I'd rather have the current car list than the same one with all the cars you don't like cut out of it.

They should have focused more on new cars then on **** like Nascar and Rally and go karts , if i want to play Rally i'l buy Dirt 2 or WRC.

And you've ignored my earlier post and leapt straight for the assumption that PD didn't include "n" car because they didn't know about it or didn't want to include it.

So what do you like the drive more? A Pagani Zonda Cique or a Honda Civic?

The Civic is much more useful in the Civic and FF races.

What do you like to drive more? A Honda Civic or a blank gap where no car exists?
 
Hyper cars are just that, hyper. Hyper real, hyper expensive, hyper in terms of driving them as well. You think the games like NFS have the real handling aspects of say a Zonda or Koenigsegg? Try NFS Shift, the Koenigsegg is basically undrivable. The Zonda R is ridiculously hard as well. Especially over curbs. I'd rather take the civic that we know how to drive and make it something like real life cars. Not some super exotics that are basically for show. Come on, really what is the use of having a car like that? They're nice and fast and all that, but in real life, they're basically non-existent.
 
A civic or a zonda? I´d have both, if I could racemodify them. If I can´t, I´d take neither.
And since they both come as std cars in GT5... you get the idea.
Currently I see all the 800 std cars as fillers and nothing more. Until something makes me think otherwise, I´m holding out on GT5.
 
A civic or a zonda? I´d have both, if I could racemodify them. If I can´t, I´d take neither.
And since they both come as std cars in GT5... you get the idea.
Currently I see all the 800 std cars as fillers and nothing more. Until something makes me think otherwise, I´m holding out on GT5.

You do realise that your spouting c*ap and that you can modify the standards as per usual with the usual array of under the bonnet stuff etc.. and you can change the gear ratios and tyres etc.. You just can't make visual changes to them..

Not hard to understand

Premium = visual = allows visual changes

standard = not visual = only allows changes not visual
 
Just found out we can recreate 70 of the TG test track laptimes :D However as the track is in sunny britain many of them are wet!!
 
A civic or a zonda? I´d have both, if I could racemodify them. If I can´t, I´d take neither.
And since they both come as std cars in GT5... you get the idea.
Currently I see all the 800 std cars as fillers and nothing more. Until something makes me think otherwise, I´m holding out on GT5.
200 premium cars with massive detail, more then any other racing game of today by itself, and your complaining about the massive 800 standard cars that aren't good enough?
Doesn't make much sense to me...
 
Why would it be an odd decision? It's not new to the series and it's not a new car. Toyota doesn't make the Supra any more, and the only reason they'd make it premium is to make it premium.

It's odd because PD decided to make pretty much every car in it's class a premium (rx7, GTR, Silva-S15, 300zx etc) but chose not to do the premium treatment for the jz80 instead doing it for the 70series from the 80's... that IS an odd decision.... but i'm sure they had their reason....

I think this might be why we're seeing some minor glitches, too. There was just so much time put in to physics, cars, tracks and other things that when it came to shadows and some other things, they just didn't have the time before the game released. .

I agree with you about a patch for some of the issues... however i think the shadow issues are here to stay (which does not bother me) various discussions on the forums suggest that if the shadows were improved it would kill the framerate of the game (due to the ps3 limitations) so don't hold yr breath for improved shadow effects...

I personally think it is a magnificent achievement on the ps3 hardware...
 
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What i love about Gran Turismo is it's variety off Motors.

If all i wanted was supercars than i'd just play Need for Speed.

I do agree that the lack off newer cars is somewhat dissapointing but i'll just accept that's the way it is and hope that we'll either get them as "DLC" or that they appear in Gran Turismo 6 instead.

We have 200+ Premium cars, That alone is still more than the entire Car Roster off GT3.
 
200 premium cars with massive detail, more then any other racing game of today by itself, and your complaining about the massive 800 standard cars that aren't good enough?
Doesn't make much sense to me...

No? Of those 200 I find maybe half to be of some interest, and maybe 50 really interesting cars, the rest is just meh to me. Most of the really interesting cars are among the std´s, but as insane as it may sound, you can´t modify the std´s visually in any way (to my knowledge), and for all I know you may not even be able to modify them at all, I mean even shift to racingtyres, so are they still interesting? In my book no. To toss away $100 on game developed for 6 years with 50 cars is just a waste. That´s why I want to wait and see if anything comes along and changes my mind!
 
No? Of those 200 I find maybe half to be of some interest, and maybe 50 really interesting cars, the rest is just meh to me. Most of the really interesting cars are among the std´s, but as insane as it may sound, you can´t modify the std´s visually in any way (to my knowledge), and for all I know you may not even be able to modify them at all, I mean even shift to racingtyres, so are they still interesting? In my book no. To toss away $100 on game developed for 6 years with 50 cars is just a waste. That´s why I want to wait and see if anything comes along and changes my mind!

You can add spoilers but I believe that is it, still its the modifications you can't see that really make a difference,
 
Hmmm, I just thought of something that might not have been brought up before: It's understood that our PSP garages can be transferred over for Arcade use, that I'm clear of, but what of the special pre-order PSP cars? PSP counts my all-black Bugatti, as an example, as a separate model from the regular Bugatti (SP Model, to be specific). Since they're not on the list from PD, I imagine they're not in the game, but since I actually still haven't bought the Veyron in PSP, only received the DLC pack one, I wonder if GT5 will acknowledge that as "good enough" and hand me the keys in Arcade Mode.

Apologies if it's been brought up before, and I felt it made most sense in this thread.

All the cars that were available for pre order in GT5 have both premium and standard versions (bar the veyron which is standard only). I'm guessing our psp cars will be standard versions when imported. Though given we can respray cars any colour don't know how meaningful these pre order cars are anymore.
 
After the release wil there be extra downloadable content with new cars? , mabey they wil see the game needs more super and hyper cars.

I want to drive with cars il never be able to drive in real , i want to drive hyper cars in as much realisme as possible , why would i want to race in a stupid Civic wich i also can drive in real and on the real nordschleife. I want do drive Zonda's , Koeningsegg's cars that you almost never see , let alone driving it. Now based on content i still prefer NFS Shift(wich has super and hyper cars which you can also modifie and tune! and Forza 3 with the perfect balance between super and hyper cars and normal cars and which you also can fully custimize.

When i heared 1000 cars i tought wouw then almost every modern car is in that game , but what do i see?

100 Civic's
100 Skyline's
100 Supra's

well getting a 1000 cars isent that hard

Ask yourself this , are you gonna drive all the 100 Skyline's? , or would you rather have seen 100 diffrent modern cars?


Stil buying it don't worry im not a hater , but after 5 years i expected a beter carlist , i now i think the carlist of NFS Hot Pursuit is way more interesting then GT5.
 
No? Of those 200 I find maybe half to be of some interest, and maybe 50 really interesting cars, the rest is just meh to me. Most of the really interesting cars are among the std´s, but as insane as it may sound, you can´t modify the std´s visually in any way (to my knowledge), and for all I know you may not even be able to modify them at all, I mean even shift to racingtyres, so are they still interesting? In my book no. To toss away $100 on game developed for 6 years with 50 cars is just a waste. That´s why I want to wait and see if anything comes along and changes my mind!
Ok well how about this... 50 cars that you find really interesting is still more then many other games have. In addition to that Your getting over 900 more cars that you can choose to drive.
It seems your opinion is based on graphics over realism, which is something that is not possible in the GT universe. Despite the detail available, PD have spent alot of their time on improving car physics rather then modelling each car individually.
If PD were to model every car to premium standards it would surely take another 5 years to complete. GT isnt really about having the best quality cars' its about having more cars then any other game and having each one drive uniquely and realistically. Graphics are just the bonus in my opinion.
 
When i heared 1000 cars i tought wouw then almost every modern car is in that game

That's no-one's fault but yours. We've all known that most of the car list will be GT4/PSP carryover for quite some time now.

but what do i see?

100 Civic's
100 Skyline's
100 Supra's

You're looking at a different car list then. I can't count 100 of any of those models.

Ask yourself this, are you gonna drive all the 100 Skyline's?

I will drive every car in the game, hyperbole notwithstanding.

or would you rather have seen 100 diffrent modern cars?

You seem to still be labouring under the misapprehension that there's a choice. There isn't. If the "100 Skylines" (which there aren't) weren't there, they wouldn't be replaced with 100 other cars - they'd be replaced with nothing. Empty space. Because the car list contains all the cars PD knew about, wanted, could get licences for, could get access to and had time to model. Nothing is taking up space something else could use.
 
After the release wil there be extra downloadable content with new cars? , mabey they wil see the game needs more super and hyper cars.

I want to drive with cars il never be able to drive in real , i want to drive hyper cars in as much realisme as possible , why would i want to race in a stupid Civic wich i also can drive in real and on the real nordschleife. I want do drive Zonda's , Koeningsegg's cars that you almost never see , let alone driving it. Now based on content i still prefer NFS Shift(wich has super and hyper cars which you can also modifie and tune! and Forza 3 with the perfect balance between super and hyper cars and normal cars and which you also can fully custimize.

When i heared 1000 cars i tought wouw then almost every modern car is in that game , but what do i see?

100 Civic's
100 Skyline's
100 Supra's

well getting a 1000 cars isent that hard

Ask yourself this , are you gonna drive all the 100 Skyline's? , or would you rather have seen 100 diffrent modern cars?


Stil buying it don't worry im not a hater , but after 5 years i expected a beter carlist , i now i think the carlist of NFS Hot Pursuit is way more interesting then GT5.

Again, you forget how much people enjoy the classic cars - i'd take the 330 P4 over an obvious Zonda any day (I still like the Zonda though!). Also regarding your 'crappy Civic' point why wouldn't someone want to drive their own car to the limit on the 'Ring? You say your not a hater but the way in which you are posting (moaning, pessimistic, exaggerating, thinking the game has been made only for YOU) would suggest otherwise...
 
I like all cars from a Hyudai, Mazda Demio, Civics, Zonda's, up to Ferrari's. Its the strenght of GT. All cars have there own fun-factor, and you need all kinds to complete diffrent racing events & championships. offcourse i like racing cars a litte more but still happy when i can drive a slow car for a change.

well.. i like all cars if they have a proper hood or cockpitview 💡:scared:
 
I am still livid with the fact that all the Mazda MX-5's have 3 identical forms. Is there just one "form" (in my PAL case, the basic MX-5) for cars like this for specific versions or are all of them used in all versions? Wording probably doesn't make it clear but still...
 
I am still livid with the fact that all the Mazda MX-5's have 3 identical forms. Is there just one "form" (in my PAL case, the basic MX-5) for cars like this for specific versions or are all of them used in all versions? Wording probably doesn't make it clear but still...

It's the same as GTPSP - all the variations from the regions (and they're not quite identical) are used to allow people to buy and use their car and still race online. If anything, blame Mazda for selling roughly the same car as a Eunos (which is a wholly different brand Roadster/Mazda Roadster in Japan, as a Mazda MX-5 in Europe and as a Mazda Miata into North America.
 
That's no-one's fault but yours. We've all known that most of the car list will be GT4/PSP carryover for quite some time now.



You're looking at a different car list then. I can't count 100 of any of those models.



I will drive every car in the game, hyperbole notwithstanding.



You seem to still be labouring under the misapprehension that there's a choice. There isn't. If the "100 Skylines" (which there aren't) weren't there, they wouldn't be replaced with 100 other cars - they'd be replaced with nothing. Empty space. Because the car list contains all the cars PD knew about, wanted, could get licences for, could get access to and had time to model. Nothing is taking up space something else could use.

That´s the typical argument, but at least if I see to myself, then yes, I would rather be without those pointless variations, than having them as nothing more than excuses to fill a list.
They are comparable to the notion that Suzuka dry and Suzuka rain are two different tracks...
 
That´s the typical argument, but at least if I see to myself, then yes, I would rather be without those pointless variations, than having them as nothing more than excuses to fill a list.

So, let's assume you think they're so pointless you won't ever drive them. I don't, so I will. If you remove them from the game it makes no difference to you at all, but it ruins my game.

Why do you want to ruin my game when it doesn't affect you?


They are comparable to the notion that Suzuka dry and Suzuka rain are two different tracks...

So which would you delete from the game?
 
To me there different environments not tracks. Why would you want to get rid of one of the environments?
 
https://www.gtplanet.net/mclaren-f1-nurburgring-in-3d-gran-turismo-5-demo/

Here it is, what happened to the Valentino Balboini Gallardo

Err...wasn't it already confirmed back then, that the person's information regarding the Lamborghini Gallardo LP550-2 Valentino Balboni and Suzuki Swift WRC being in the game, was wrong?

I suppose the person who said that was 'assuming,' I believe he mistakenly identified the LP560-4 as the LP550-2 and the SX4 WRC as the Swift rally car, while seeing the cars in the demo build.
 
That´s the typical argument, but at least if I see to myself, then yes, I would rather be without those pointless variations, than having them as nothing more than excuses to fill a list.
They are comparable to the notion that Suzuka dry and Suzuka rain are two different tracks...

Dude seriously, Famine is right, those Skylines are there because they were in GT4 and have been carried over. As we all know now it took PD ages to model every premium car, so be thankful for the ones we have, and as for standards, why would you want to get rid of them??? Yes there may practically be duplicates but isn't that a hallmark of GT? No matter how similar, every car in GT is different and if you don't like that you might want to reconsider purchasing it.

As for Suzuka rain and dry, weather is going to play such a momentous role in GT5 that you couldn't possibly say they were the same track.
 
Err...wasn't it already confirmed back then, that the person's information regarding the Lamborghini Gallardo LP550-2 Valentino Balboni and Suzuki Swift WRC being in the game, was wrong?

I suppose the person who said that was 'assuming,' I believe he mistakenly identified the LP560-4 as the LP550-2 and the SX4 WRC as the Swift rally car, while seeing the cars in the demo build.

Thanks for clarification ,thought it was strange that motortrend would get it wrong but thanks anyway.
 
Just a thought, before anyone slams PD for not making certain cars premium and wheel changes and such... Just think about how long it takes to model a car.
Here is the process for my car modelling.

Exactly, they built a new physics engine, and a new mold for all cars (that kaz said will be used for GT6.) Six months per car and we haven't seen a time frame for the tracks. This is also why we see very few 2009-2010+ modeled cars. They've already said this new system is how cars will modeled from now on. I'm guessing it took 1-2 years to figure out the base and then 3 years to make, with the final year getting them right on track.

Am I bummed that my Audi S4 that I used to kill the competition in GT4's career mode is a standard, sure, but not to the point where I want burn my eyes out like some children around here.

My take on the wheels is that they are only made in premium which is why you can't mix and match with the standard cars.

And everyone has to understand the licensing problem. From something I read years ago "PD does not pay for the rights to have cars in the game" They come to PD. If Cadillac doesn't want any production cars in the game then that is their call. Every game we get one manufacture that stops the presses by premiering in the game, this time around: Ferrari, Lamborghini, Maserati, and McLaren. I am personally shocked that Pontiac made the cut with standard cars that are no longer produced.
 
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