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Akira-> That seems to be Nurbie-Ring, look at the doodles on the aspalt. 
GT5 Master Track List (NOT a wishlist)
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It's still not confirmed yet, but I'd say that Infineon (due to NASCAR) and Motegi (it's a japanese race track, and it's got an oval for NASCAR too) are pretty much guaranteed to be included in GT5 (also both were in GT4 and appeared in the "leaked" list), so we can say there would be only 9 Weather Locations left.
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Woah this is insane. I want itIt looks like 80% of that track would be full throttle
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It looks like 80% of that track would be full throttle
Woah this is insane. I want it
Actually, the old Hockinhiemring was one of the deadliest tracks ever made...and the ironic thing: the chicanes they put in to slow down cars just made everything worse 'cause all but one were in the middle of the long blind sweeper. Especially when it rained, it REALLY sucked. Going from 200+ down to 20mph to get around those chicanes was rough on the cars and if you weren't paying attention, you'd be eating either tire barriers or trees. But ironically, the reason why the current layout is around isn't because of the deadliness of the track...but because the fans couldn't see the F1 cars as they disappeared down the straits. And since the track was owned by F1, the track was shortened.
But, if you want to race the long version, it's in Sports Car GT. It's insane.
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GT5 will be better than that. But, yeah, SPGT is still a pretty sweet looking game and it had some awesome tracks like Sebring, Hockinhiem, Lime Rock Park and Donnington. It also is the only game besides GT2 to feature the Vector M12 LM Race Car.
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What track is this ?
Could it be Hockenheimring? Or simply Nuerburgring?
Sorry, I can't read german and haven't used an online translator tool yet.
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It doesn't seem to be Hockenheimring... but from this sloppy translation it appears it will be included:
This article says: "....Auf verschiedenen internationalen und auch deutschen Rennstrecken, darunter eben auch Hockenheim und die legendäre Nordschleife des Nürburgrings...."
In english: "...On different international and german racetracks, like Hockenheim and the legendary Nordschleife of the Nürburgring..."
Furtermore it says that they want to compare the driving expierience of the real SLS on Hockenheim with the one in GT5. So Bernd Schneider drove some rounds in the SLS and two days later he had the chance to try the game in Tokio.
BUT it didn't says explicitly that he drove on Hockenheim in GT5. He just describe the feeling of the SLS in the game compare to the real one. So maybe hockenheim is in but it isn't really confirmed
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There is so much about this game we don't know. Just like the AMG driving academy they had GT pods at Road Atlanta while they were doing the AMG driving academy there and they would drive on GT and then drive the track. This track hasn't been confirmed and hardly nobody mentions it but if they had pods there then this track has got to be in the game as well.
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The old Hockenheim is completely overgrown now, not that that would stop them putting it in the game.
The old Monza oval looks in better shape, I guess that might be a possible variation too.
The old Monza oval looks in better shape, I guess that might be a possible variation too.
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I was thinking, in the Paris Games Week (which will start in a few days) GT5 page it's still stated that the game will have about 150 circuits. Since it will be a big and official event, in my opinion it's unlikely that the organizers or the site webmasters haven't corrected this information, if it's wrong:
IF about 70 individual tracks will be included (confirmed circuits+GTPSP circuits+GT5P Weather Locations+a few more original circuits we haven't seen yet), and if PD also included all possible variations (short and long variations for city and original circuits, alternate and historic layouts for real race tracks, etc), then it's really possible that there will indeed be close to 150 layouts in total excluding reverse variations. We'll see.
If it will happen, the game will truly exceed anyone's expectations, me included.
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Just noticed that the release date there is still November 3rd though... it could mean that the rest is inaccurate too.
http://www.parisgamesweek.com/jeux/gran-turismo-5
IF about 70 individual tracks will be included (confirmed circuits+GTPSP circuits+GT5P Weather Locations+a few more original circuits we haven't seen yet), and if PD also included all possible variations (short and long variations for city and original circuits, alternate and historic layouts for real race tracks, etc), then it's really possible that there will indeed be close to 150 layouts in total excluding reverse variations. We'll see.
If it will happen, the game will truly exceed anyone's expectations, me included.
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Just noticed that the release date there is still November 3rd though... it could mean that the rest is inaccurate too.
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If they carried over all GT3 + GT4 + TT tracks the total of tracks we know of would be around 150 including reversable ones, and maybe a default rally circuit for each course maker environment, so it is possible (if you do include reverse). I think there's only around 100 layouts in GT history, so I wouldn't expect another 50 to be revealed without counting reverse layouts.
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With some imagination and diluting the number with short variations (basically just a matter of closing down sections of circuits, would be useful for Karts), it would not be that hard in my opinion, assuming that all previously speculated tracks (GT5/PSP+GT5P+Weather Locations+Leaked list) will appear:
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Seems unlikely to me but I suppose it's possible. They did a lot more track + city scouting for GT4 than has been revealed in GT5 so far.
GT4 added 4 Japanese race courses, 1 US course and 2 Euro courses + 2 more in TT, 7 cities! and 3 mountainous real locations for original courses.
So far GT5 has only shown 2 US courses, 1.5 euro courses, 2 and a bit cities and one or two mountainous settings.
After writing that I feel a bit more optimistic.
GT4 added 4 Japanese race courses, 1 US course and 2 Euro courses + 2 more in TT, 7 cities! and 3 mountainous real locations for original courses.
So far GT5 has only shown 2 US courses, 1.5 euro courses, 2 and a bit cities and one or two mountainous settings.
After writing that I feel a bit more optimistic.
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Old Hokenheim was my favorite race track but then they destroyed!!! 
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Would it be in bad taste to suggest they could use it as a rally track?
I've asked you this before, but you seem to have skirted around it. Why are you so convinced that any suggested total number of tracks excludes reverse variations? The rest of your track postings are generally rigorous in terms of level of research and credibility of sources, yet this "excluding reverse" thing seems to be nothing more than what you really want to believe is true.
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In my previous list I simply showed that reaching 150 completely different layouts without reverse variations on confirmed and plausible tracks would be possible. However, since that possibility cannot be ruled out, it's been a few weeks since I started counting in addition to the number of individual variations also the number of variations including reverse versions of original circuits, if you've noticed.
We've been given several apparently contradicting different figures for the total track number: 60+, 70+, 100+, ~150.
In my latest list containing only spotted and confirmed tracks, the total number of layouts including possible reverse variations rose to 80, which would exclude the first two above mentioned figures:
With a more extended version including tracks from the leaked list for a total of 44 individual tracks and 73 individual variations, if we include reverse ones we have a total of 118 layouts, which would exclude the "100+" figure (although technically would be still right).
In my opinion the only figure that makes sense including reverse versions is 150. From page 134 of this thread:
This list doesn't include all the possible variations (of which many would be very "obvious" to include) I speculated in my previous post, however would, with some additions, fulfill the 60+ (tracks), 100+ (completely different layouts), ~150 (total drivable layouts) figures together.
But again, just adding a few "obvious" layouts and probably a couple new original tracks to this list would quickly increase the total drivable layouts number, invalidating the ~150 (total drivable layouts) figure.
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I still get the feeling that we will see more Nascar tracks than what has been confirmed. This is based on what is said it the video clip from Texas speedway where the Nascar guy seems to be saying that this will be the best Nascar has ever been done. Would be tough to say that with a straight face if only 2 or 3 Nascar tracks exist in the final game.
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It might be that they're adding more new circuits but not adding old ones which they haven't yet upgraded to GT5 standards (saving for GT6?), but I'm still expecting reverse versions to count. GT PSP was officially advertised as 35 tracks with 70+ variations and that included reversed ones.
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Hence the 'Speculative version' (ie Optimistic, but possible) in big red letters at the bottom of the list
. It is based on things such as the weather locations in GT5P and gt4 tracks (among others). He has created another list with only tracks which are definitely in a couple of pages back.I believe the reason he thinks it doesn't include reverse variations is because it would seem to fit the figures given much better that way, and plus I can't imagine PD would resort to including them just to 'boost' their track figure
Edit: Got beaten to it... Big time.
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