GT5 Master Track List (NOT a wishlist)

[DestinyDanny]

Here's the 'old' Fuji layout with the banked turn

reminds me of High Speed Ring on GT, doesn't it? Except it travels in the opposite direction.

That's true it does, you could even say that PD might have found inspiration for HSR from Fuji

 

[freshseth83]

I was thinking that myself, I do wonder if that's the case!

 

[shirakawaa]

Yes, High Speed Ring was probably inspired by Fuji Speedway. Note how coincidentally the pit location is the same.

However, it runs counter-clockwise like the older version of Fuji in its first year of racing (the racing direction got changed to clockwise as the already dangerous banking proved to be even more dangerous in the other direction).

 

[analog]

I was thinking that myself, I do wonder if that's the case!

Apparantly HSR is inspired by Fuji Speedway simply because they probably wanted Fuji included in the first GT but the first GT only had fantasy tracks included ( maybe due to not having the resources or licences they have since ).

 

[freshseth83]

I knew there was a connection, but I never asked if it was official. HSR is a nice track, it's like a modern rendition of Fuji in a different setting. I hope with the track maker, we could possibly see tracks like that. I have a few ideas of some long sweeping courses with challenging decreasing radius turns!

 

[Blitz24]

Weren't Apricot Hill and Midfield Raceways considered to be a fantasy version of Suzuka? (Both use elements of the track)

 

[hardvibes]

4 layouts of La Sarthe

 

[shirakawaa]

Ooooh, I'll add them, nice!
But I wonder what difference there are between La Sarthe 2005 and 2009.
Also multiple tracks in the same selection screen in public demos doesn't necessarily imply additional variations.
One of them might have simply been set up for night driving like in the taiwanese demo.

Rain on Suzuka also revealed here:
http://eu.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/d14918.html

(I haven't checked other screenshots for new additions yet)

 

[DG_Silva]

The difference in the '05 and '09 versions of the La Sarthe circuit may be the chicanes at the end of the track, or the sweeping Dunlop curves.

 

[shirakawaa]

Yes, this is the only difference between the two versions:

I cannot believe this insignificant change will count as a different variation. I wonder if this implies that versions from past decades are included as well.

 

[People_Know_Me]

Ooooh, I'll add them, nice!
But I wonder what difference there are between La Sarthe 2005 and 2009.
Also multiple tracks in the same selection screen in public demos doesn't necessarily imply additional variations.
One of them might have simply been set up for night driving like in the taiwanese demo.

Rain on Suzuka also revealed here:
http://eu.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/d14918.html

(I haven't checked other screenshots for new additions yet)

Lots of good screens there. A "Virtual Vettel" is also seen WITHOUT a helmet...looks like some cool stuff. One day we'll get to play it.

 

[CyborgGT]

Nice find on the '09 Sarthe!

I thought I remember hearing a while back that PD was spotted taking measurements at Spa, but Hockenheim is an excellent track I can't wait for (it's fun in ToCA 3, in any case!).

 

[hardvibes]

Hey what about this

 

[E28]

Hey what about this

Sweet, where'd you find this? This would be the first time PD add the other 2 other Nurburghring variations.

 

[shirakawaa]

Nice, nice, I expected a short version of Nurburgring GP.
If you could tell where the pics you're getting are from, so that I can add a source for my track list.

 

[b1gf3ar]

Hey what about this

I believe that would be the current F1 track.

 

[SolidSnakex]

Nice, nice, I expected a short version of Nurburgring GP.
If you could tell where the pics you're getting are from, so that I can add a source for my track list.

It's from the X1 video.

 

[People_Know_Me]

I believe that would be the current F1 track.

Isn't the current F1 track the track shown directly to the left of "Nurburgring GP/D"?

 

[hardvibes]

Nice, nice, I expected a short version of Nurburgring GP.
If you could tell where the pics you're getting are from, so that I can add a source for my track list.

Right.
La Sarthe and Nurb GP variations @ 1:14 - 1:16

 

[Silent Drifter]

Nice, nice, I expected a short version of Nurburgring GP.
If you could tell where the pics you're getting are from, so that I can add a source for my track list.

There from this video

 

[b1gf3ar]

Isn't the current F1 track the track shown directly to the left of "Nurburgring GP/D"?

Yes, you are correct. That must be a shortened version then.

 

[shirakawaa]

Current version of my track list:

Color guide

[TEMP. NAME] = Temporary name. The track name might differ in the final build.
Blue = Confirmed tracks (seen and recognized from screenshots or videos). Variations of these tracks that have not been properly confirmed (guessed or coming from anecdotal sources) are in bright red color.
Bright red = Tracks seen in videos or screenshot but not yet properly identified. They could end up being Course Maker tracks.

Source List

[1] Track reference material list on a PD workstation http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/6092/tracksjjpn.jpg
[2] Red Bull GT5 trailer (link gone)
[3] Gran Turismo 5 Prologue http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/products/gt5p/course/
[4] Times Square Event https://www.gtplanet.net/gt5honda-times-square-event-pictures-videos-impressions/
[5] Times Square Event http://www.gtpla.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/IMAG0181.jpg
[6] GT5 weather trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5Pl8L7ncKE
[7] https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128692&page=14#post4019602
[8] GT5 weather trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWaAMdVlI9w
[9] http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5312p3.html
[10] http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247p2.html
[11] http://us.gran-turismo.com/c/binary/images/5294/gamescom2010_030a.jpg
[12] Gamescom 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wevTDnwiKY
[13] Gamescom 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx8dzB64TL8
[14] Various demos; example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ip43DvQmkW0
[15] Ferrari 458 Italia tribute video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TXpXclylWg
[16] E3 2010 trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxfNb4d3bPY
[17] Standard cars trailer http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/gallery/d9407.html
[18] E3 2007 trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjO12QbT4XU
[19] E3 2009 debut trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXtbXy5vO70
[20] Gran Turismo 5 Night Racing trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfyonN7WC4M
[21] Toyota FT-86 trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcsZ5-HXXoE
[22] Derived from locations in the GT5 Prologue weather screen
[23] Yamauchi's favourite circuit https://www.gtplanet.net/gamescom-the-yamauchi-interview/
[24] http://img838.imageshack.us/img838/7100/madrishort.jpg
[25] http://www.carmagazine.co.uk/News/S...ran-Turismo-speaks-on-the-eve-of-GT5s-launch/
[26] IGN UK Kazunori Yamauchi Q&A http://ps3.ign.com/articles/864/864502p1.html
[27] http://www.kfz.net/autonews/sls-meets-gt5-36942/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
[28] E3 2005 trailer (Vision Gran Turismo) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hT824CivvA
[29] Red Bull X1 Full Reveal video and page http://eu.gran-turismo.com/gb/news/d14918.html

 

[hardvibes]

Great! Total # of variations?

 

[E28]

30 tracks sounds great! Especially with 25 extra non-reverse variations.

 

[shirakawaa]

Great! Total # of variations?

52 variations, 84 with reverse

However:
- There are a couple of not quite 100% confirmed tracks although spotted in videos ("Eiger Trail", new Special Stage and Special Stage Route 11)
- I omitted some "obvious" variations (Suzuka West for example. I'm confident it will be in the game) that we haven't seen yet (by this logic however maybe I should remove some of them)
- Original tracks that will obviously appear (deep forest, Grand Valley, etc) aren't in the list either

 

[hardvibes]

I hope New York wil be confirmed. GTPSP shots were way too detailed...

 

[Dan360]

For a Le Mans layout, one guess would be 2005 un-chicaned. As far as I know, there are few differences in the 2005 and 2009 layout.

 

[amar212]

Great job you're doing there Akira, congratulations on effort 👍

 

[Quintin03]

For a Le Mans layout, one guess would be 2005 un-chicaned. As far as I know, there are few differences in the 2005 and 2009 layout.

First chicane and that's it if not merely the off track bits.

 

[RoadRunner99]

I don't know if you guys already identified it, but the 4th variant of La Sarthe should be:
Circuit de la Sarthe 2005 (daytime) No Chicanes
(it is visible in the video frames)

As other guys noticed in the X1 video:
Nurburgring GP/D (daytime) short variant of GP track
Nurburgring GP/F (daytime)
Circuit de la Sarthe 2005 (daytime) No Chicanes
Circuit de la Sarthe 2005 (daytime)
Circuit de la Sarthe 2009 (daytime) No Chicane
Circuit de la Sarthe 2009 (nighttime)