GT5 Master Track List (NOT a wishlist)

[SuperShouden]

you're right. I forgots about that.

 

[dj4monie]

Here's what I wanna know, how you going to have NASCAR in the game and only have Indy, Sonoma and Daytona in the game? Since it takes so long to engineer a track, I don't know how you can have the 17 or so tracks the series has in the game at launch.

But knowing the game has DLC enabled, I think it will be awhile before we see another GT game, so maybe for the next year or so they'll be working on just adding tracks, cars and features.

 

[Goldrusher]

Who said the game will have all the NASCAR tracks ?

That's right, no one.

 

[Mt. Lynx]

Indy, Sonoma, Daytona. And Twin ring Motegi. And We may also see a round at the test track oval...

 

[Conquerer]

I'm wondering why SSR11 isn't in blue, given that we've seen it in screenshots and videos.

Though almost everyone thinks it's an upgraded section of SSR5, despite looking nothing like it, when it's clearly a section of the GT3 iteration SSR11.

Despite it looking absolutely nothing like anything ever seen on any configuration of SSR11. Yeah, very clearly... It's not SSR11. There is no left-right chicane like that on any configuration of SSR11.

See...I was trying to tell people that and no one was listening to me Kept trying to tell me it was SSR5. and I was like, "Dude, it looks like a reverse version of SSR11 near the Chicane" And they were all like "No it's not."

And they were all right. All the corners you pointed out as possible locations were all wrong and impossible. It doesn't matter whether SSR11 is driven forward or in reverse. The chicanes are always driven the same way (a left-right chicane will always be a left-right chicane).

That section is even in the intro movie of GT3...

The section in the GT3 intro is the straightaway with the "chicane" kink in it -- the "chicane" isn't even a proper corner and is taken at full throttle without even turning the steering wheel if you have the right angle. It's not the same location just because it has similar trees.

 

[SuperShouden]

Despite it looking absolutely nothing like anything ever seen on any configuration of SSR11. Yeah, very clearly... It's not SSR11. There is no left-right chicane like that on any configuration of SSR11.



And they were all right. All the corners you pointed out as possible locations were all wrong and impossible. It doesn't matter whether SSR11 is driven forward or in reverse. The chicanes are always driven the same way (a left-right chicane will always be a left-right chicane).



The section in the GT3 intro is the straightaway with the "chicane" kink in it -- the "chicane" isn't even a proper corner and is taken at full throttle without even turning the steering wheel if you have the right angle. It's not the same location just because it has similar trees.

Dude watch the video again. The SLS's airbrake doesn't pop up before it enters the corner which means it's a faster paced corner like the kink from SSR11

 

[Forgetful]

Discussed before. They can all be in GT5 but nobody can know yet.

I think I know where Jef Rubenstein got his 40+/100+ number: it's also on the Iracing site.

His comment was posted on the PSN blog, just after he interviewed Kaz. Iracing probably got the info from there.

 

[Famine]

Despite it looking absolutely nothing like anything ever seen on any configuration of SSR11. Yeah, very clearly... It's not SSR11. There is no left-right chicane like that on any configuration of SSR11.

And they were all right. All the corners you pointed out as possible locations were all wrong and impossible. It doesn't matter whether SSR11 is driven forward or in reverse. The chicanes are always driven the same way (a left-right chicane will always be a left-right chicane).

The section in the GT3 intro is the straightaway with the "chicane" kink in it -- the "chicane" isn't even a proper corner and is taken at full throttle without even turning the steering wheel if you have the right angle. It's not the same location just because it has similar trees.

It looks exactly like the part of SSR11 that it is. It looks nothing like any part of SSR5. The conclusion, apparently, is that it's SSR5 but redesigned.

Presumably to look like SSR11.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

And they were all right. All the corners you pointed out as possible locations were all wrong and impossible. It doesn't matter whether SSR11 is driven forward or in reverse. The chicanes are always driven the same way (a left-right chicane will always be a left-right chicane).

They're right? Please do tell me how the track in the E3 video represents any portion of SSR5... considering we've now seen a map of SSR5, proving there's been no changes to its layout.

SSR11 has been changed before. It's entirely possible it could be changed again. And that tunnel witnessed in the video could very well be the portion of the track that has so far seen changes between games.

 

[SuperShouden]

GT3:

GT5:

same corner, cars turning the same way. It's SSR11

 

[Quintin03]

His comment was posted on the PSN blog, just after he interviewed Kaz. Iracing probably got the info from there.

Iracing got the info from themselves, after all they made those 40 tracks and 100 variations.

 

[SuperShouden]

I just realized that in the GT5 video, you can clearly see that the SLS and the other car are approaching a kink or a chicane as you can see the trees on the far side of the turn...looks like a kink to me.

 

[Quintin03]

GT3:

GT5:

same corner, cars turning the same way. It's SSR11

Doesn't prove a thing. Only if it could not be SSR5 I'm gonna believe you and it can. Not saying SSR11 won't be in just that nobody's certain but PD.

 

[Forgetful]

Iracing got the info from themselves, after all they made those 40 tracks and 100 variations.

We're talking about GT5's track count. Jeff Rubenstein of the PS Blog, interviewed Kazunori, and in the comments that followed, Jeff Responded to a question about GT5s track count, Jeff asked if '40 Locations and 100 variations' was enough. All in regards to GT5.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2010...auchi-creator-of-gran-turismo/#comment-416321

 

[SuperShouden]

It's the SAME corner....I mean, we KNOW SSR5 is in. It's been in since GT2. SSR11 is most likely in as well. And the lit trees in that pic confirm it...at least to me. (I'm telling you SSR11 is in every other GT game...it was in GT1 but not 2, 3 but not 4. So it should be in 5 but probably not 6.)

 

[Conquerer]

Dude watch the video again. The SLS's airbrake doesn't pop up before it enters the corner which means it's a faster paced corner like the kink from SSR11

The SLR's airbrake does come up for the corner and the brake lights come on too, so it's not like the corner in GT3 at all.

It looks exactly like the part of SSR11 that it is. It looks nothing like any part of SSR5. The conclusion, apparently, is that it's SSR5 but redesigned.

Presumably to look like SSR11.

Since it looks exactly like SSR11, then please show me. It doesn't look exactly like anything. And I didn't say it looked like SSR5 when pointing that out. I just said it doesn't look anything like SSR11 which it doesn't. We don't know what it is so there's no need to start pretending we do.

They're right? Please do tell me how the track in the E3 video represents any portion of SSR5... considering we've now seen a map of SSR5, proving there's been no changes to its layout.

SSR11 has been changed before. It's entirely possible it could be changed again. And that tunnel witnessed in the video could very well be the portion of the track that has so far seen changes between games.

I never said it was SSR5. If it's SSR5 then it was remodelled. If it's SSR11 then it went through a very significant remodel.

GT3:

GT5:

same corner, cars turning the same way. It's SSR11

And yet they come up from a tunnel which was not in GT3, move under a bridge which was not in GT3, and they brake for the corner which was never necessary in GT3. But of course it has to be the same corner simply because they're turning the same way... We can't even see what the actual corner is like.

I just realized that in the GT5 video, you can clearly see that the SLS and the other car are approaching a kink or a chicane as you can see the trees on the far side of the turn...looks like a kink to me.

What it looks like is something we've never seen before. If it is SSR11 then it went through a dramatic remodel. It doesn't look like anything we've ever seen before. Some people are just pointing out the trees. Yes, we know trees with lights on them were on SSR11 and yes, this could possibly be a remodelled version of SSR11. Nothing we've seen so far is recognizable, however, so there's no need to get ahead of yourself and start confirming things before they actually are confirmed.

 

[Famine]

Who's confirming anything?

Nothing's confirmed until the game releases. But SSR11 has been seen in a video. That one. And a previous one with the SLS, though that was fractions of a second and far less definitive.

 

[GTPorsche]

Well, SSR11 changed from GT1 to GT3, so why not change it again if it is in GT5.

 

[Conquerer]

Who's confirming anything?

Nothing's confirmed until the game releases. But SSR11 has been seen in a video. That one. And a previous one with the SLS, though that was fractions of a second and far less definitive.

Which video? And you said it was confirmed in another topic and implied it was here as well. If it's not definitive then we don't know what it is.

 

[Famine]

Which video? And you said it was confirmed in another topic and implied it was here as well. If it's not definitive then we don't know what it is.

Not at all. Akira's list of tracks has those tracks "from screenshots or confirmed" in blue and his list is all his own work. An individual upbraided him for putting SSR11 in blue when it is quite correct to - not because it was confirmed but because it has been seen in a video. You may infer confirmation from that, but I didn't imply it and nor should anyone take his work (or this thread, or the GT5 Master Car List, or anything, even Sony/PD videos) as indicative of GT5's contents.

Nothing is confirmed until the game releases. I've said this many times in threads such as this, and for GT4 as well. I usually cite the CLK-GTR being "confirmed" in GT2 from screenshots, when the car was absent from the game.


That track is SSR11. I don't know how more definitive it's possible to be. And the previous video was some SLS promo sequence - don't recall from when.

 

[SuperShouden]

And yet they come up from a tunnel which was not in GT3, move under a bridge which was not in GT3, and they brake for the corner which was never necessary in GT3. But of course it has to be the same corner simply because they're turning the same way... We can't even see what the actual corner is like.

Not in that particular scene they don't. It could be that they showed both SSR5 and SSR11 in the same segment. Just because you saw one section in one scene doesn't mean that the next segment is part of the same track. The tunnel could be from SSR5 as could going under the overpass. But that particular corner with all the lit trees is from SSR11

 

[Conquerer]

That track is SSR11. I don't know how more definitive it's possible to be. And the previous video was some SLS promo sequence - don't recall from when.

If it is SSR11, which part is it?

Not in that particular scene they don't. It could be that they showed both SSR5 and SSR11 in the same segment. Just because you saw one section in one scene doesn't mean that the next segment is part of the same track. The tunnel could be from SSR5 as could going under the overpass. But that particular corner with all the lit trees is from SSR11

It's not from the SSR11 we know from GT3. The road in that part of the video is elevated and heading upward, which was not the case in GT3. I'm not arguing here that this isn't a redesigned SSR11 -- it very well could be. But you can't just look at those trees and say it's SSR11 cause GT3 had similar trees and also a right-hand kink in it (not to mention we can't see enough of the corner to match it with the GT3 corner, plus the braking point suggest it's not the same corner).

 

[Famine]

It may be a sensible time in the afternoon there, but it's gone Saturday here. I'll pull out GT3 and take some snaps for you tomorrow.

Though Shouden already has.

 

[alucard0712]

GT3:

GT5:

Sorry me guys, but what are you talking about?Its OBLIVIOUS that it's SSR11!No need to think - it's a waste of energy...

 

[Conquerer]

It may be a sensible time in the afternoon there, but it's gone Saturday here. I'll pull out GT3 and take some snaps for you tomorrow.

Though Shouden already has.

If you're referring to these, there is no match.

Yes, there are lit up trees and the road turns right, but that's it. The GT3 road is flat and the GT5 road is not. The GT5 corner looks blind whereas the GT3 corner isn't at all. Plus all the other different surroundings. Other than the trees there's nothing specifically to hint it is that part of that track.

 

[SuperShouden]

I wish there was a Photo Mode in GT3. 'cause I'd match the GT5 photo with one from GT3. And, as far as we know, the only track from any GT game that had those lit trees was SSR11. I guess they could have added them to SSR5, but I don't know. I always thought that the only thing that was the same between SSR5 and SSR11 was the front straight.

 

[Conquerer]

I wish there was a Photo Mode in GT3. 'cause I'd match the GT5 photo with one from GT3. And, as far as we know, the only track from any GT game that had those lit trees was SSR11. I guess they could have added them to SSR5, but I don't know. I always thought that the only thing that was the same between SSR5 and SSR11 was the front straight.

The trees also show up in this video as well (0:15), but this corner matches no part of SSR11.



The only even slightest possibility would be the 2nd corner of the track (straightaway, right corner, then a left right section), and that woud be a huge stretch to try and match it with this corner. It was nothing like a chicane at all in GT1 and GT3 and was much, much more open and with barely a left turn in at all. If that's the same corner here then it was very dramatically remodelled (which I very highly doubt). It could possibly be a redesigned (new look but same general design) final SSR5 chicane or a brand new track for GT5. We don't know just yet.

 

[SuperShouden]

Looks like something from GT1. Perhaps the Chicane. Doesn't look like SSR5, either. Maybe it's SSR15?

 

[Conquerer]

Looks like something from GT1. Perhaps the Chicane. Doesn't look like SSR5, either. Maybe it's SSR15?

Exactly. It could be a brand new SSR track and that SLR McLaren screenshot corner could be part of it as well.

 

[SuperShouden]

maybe it's a combination of SSR5 and SSR11.

Also, I was playing Ferrari Challenge and noticed that they use Infineon's Motorcycle course. Maybe this is the Ferrari Challenge Course as well and that gots me thinking. If Ferrari is in the game, is there a possibility that Infineon Motorcycle Course will be in, as well.