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GT6 Aero Parts?
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- Hitman_Elite66
I hope this means we can have wide body cars now as well as being able to take off the chrome bumpers on older cars, like the Mercedes Benz 300SL and VW beetle in GT5
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- Hitman_Elite66
And judging by the pic of the rims, it looks like we can change wheel/tyre widths!
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- oOJ-KiLLA240o
Aren't we already able to remove wings?At least on premiums?
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- dawko-san
dr_slump
How so? I definitely can remove it. Not sure what you're talking about man.
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lol.
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- andrewyhy
I guess wing removal can't apply to every premium car.
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andrewyhy
Uhoh you mean a GT500 car? Why on the Earth would somebody wanna remove it?
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I do hope the new car customization options that PD is saying that GT6 will have is not just more wheels and rear wings for most cars. Yes that is an improvement over what GT5 offers, but I couldn't care less for those ugly boy-racer (aka Fast & Furious style) wings. I rather fit suttle lip-style rear spoilers that improve rear down-force without making the car look ridiculous.
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GT/Polyphony logic: "Aero parts" = only wings, invisible "extension" parts and flip-ups on only 20 or so cars.
dr_slump
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Which car?
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He obviously means removing wings that come stock on certain roadcars (like an RX-7 for example), not removing an aftermarket wing you fitted yourself which is indeed already possible.
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That's because those are purpose built racing cars, and those wings are integrated in the design, from the ground up. That's why they look suitable.
It's not the same as slapping an aftermarket wing on a Honda City Turbo for instance, where speeds would not be remotely equivalent, and where a small lip on the top of the car would be much more appropriate. The GT aerodynamic components have to look integrated with the car.
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How is a lip spoiler more appropriate? With a slow car, a massive wing makes the most sense if you want downforce. A tiny spoiler would just end up being a useless ornament.
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The L/D of a wing is generally greater than 1. You get more lift than drag, plus the car is already generating drag while the wing is the main source of lift.
So you get lift like 0 (for the car) + 4 (for the wing) compared to drag 3 (for the car) + 1 (for the wing). The difference in cornering would far outshine the difference in top speed. If this wasn't the case, no one would use wings for circuit racing.
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Massive wings look horrid most of the time though, lip wings are more desirable if we don't need the downforce, in which case he wouldn't in the car he gave as an example.
Those wings are meant for those cars, not road cars.
That's like saying why wouldn't a certain hat look good on you because it looks good on a totally different person.
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I think they look fine, and since GT is a racing game downforce is probably desirable.
I don't care what kind of visual options we get, if people want a certain kind of looking wing, PD should provide it, but my issue with the aero system in GT5 is the lack of massive wings. What you get at GT Auto is near useless. It would also be nice if the shape of the wing reflected its actual purpose and performance too.
There is no reason why a road car can't use them. Look at the Viper ACR, or all the 90's GT1 road cars.
I doubt anyone was considering the look of the wings for the Super GT cars or whatever.
Hats don't generate downforce.
GT5 already offered a few subtle wings anyway, so I'm sure they'll be available in GT6 if they're really going for diversity. I'm just hoping wings won't be a purely visual thing. That would be a huge let down for me.
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- Johnnypenso
I think Ex mentioned this already, but for me the thing I'm hoping for most is not esthetics but functionality. I want all the various aero parts to have some effect on handling, downforce, top speed etc otherwise I won't even go into the aero part of the game. In GT5 rear wings were unnecessary on almost all street cars as all they did was make the cars understeer even more, provided no front downforce to increase cornering speeds and robbed you of precious horsepower in PP limited races.
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As far as aero options go, I'd love to see some licensed parts available as well as additions to the existing ones from GT5. Brands such as Voltex, Amuse, Cusco, Varis etc. come to mind. Many of these companies produce functional aero parts that would be applicable to cars already in the game.
It would be nice to see aftermarket mirrors as an aero option as well, something along the lines of these:
As far as wheels go, more variety is definitely needed. They have licenses to use BBS and Rays Engineering wheels as options in-game, but in GT5 we got a line of wheels that was dated when the game released. Work is needed in this department (pun intended). Selectable tire widths, wheel widths, and offsets are a must. Why can't I increase the front or rear track or the size of the contact patch if I want to? Hopefully the partnership with Yokohama has given us some options here for GT6.
It would be nice to see aftermarket mirrors as an aero option as well, something along the lines of these:
As far as wheels go, more variety is definitely needed. They have licenses to use BBS and Rays Engineering wheels as options in-game, but in GT5 we got a line of wheels that was dated when the game released. Work is needed in this department (pun intended). Selectable tire widths, wheel widths, and offsets are a must. Why can't I increase the front or rear track or the size of the contact patch if I want to? Hopefully the partnership with Yokohama has given us some options here for GT6.
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- diegorborges82
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When talking about the lip spoiler's this is more or less what he means.
vs GT5's current wing selection
Personally, I love lip spoilers. They look better on most street cars where as race cars normally look better with the spoiler.
vs GT5's current wing selection
Personally, I love lip spoilers. They look better on most street cars where as race cars normally look better with the spoiler.
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Agreed, but what would make it epic would be differing levels of downforce for each option. A small lip might be 10, a larger, slightly raised spoiler might be 15, full blown aftermarket spoilers 20+ etc. This should be an absolute piece of cake to program.
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Not only that, the spoilers should be draggier and less efficient at generating downforce than wings. Wings should also be able to lessen the adverse pressure gradient seen in extreme diffusers as well. There's a ton of things GT5's simple models leaves out.
I like the idea mentioned earlier about mirrors. I hadn't thought of it.
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With a full aero kit, the actual wings with big end plate winglets look fine. All people are saying when they say race car is a car that is basically a race version of the road going one. Thus it is funny to say a C6.r looks better than a ZR1. However, the ZR1 could look just as good or nearly with a wide body kit and the same wing.
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