GT6 coming 1st quarter 2013? (Nobody knows)

[gambleboyen]

GT6-pre-prologue: $49.99
GT6 Prologue: $59.99
GT6: $79.99

+ all DLC

 

[eran0004]

Playstation 1- GT1, GT2
Playstation 2- GT3, GT4
Playstation 3- GT5, GT6

See where i'm going?

See where this is going?

11) More control in Course Maker. Really, this isn't as difficult as some people make it sound. We don't need polygon-by-polygon control; just more control.

Dirt Bike 3D (released 2001 I think) had a pretty nice course maker mode. It's not as shiny as GT5 but you could control things like the angle of a specific corner, how steep a hill would be, select different profiles for jumps etc. The ability to adjust angles and sharpness of individual corners in the GT5 course maker would be enough for me

 

[eran0004]

Double post.

 

[mrkevans]

I scrolled through the first couple pages of replies and didn't see you answering the question of "Why would you want it to be?" That's a very good question. I mean, if GT is a good thing, shouldn't we be wanting more of it? I'm not sure why GT fanboys have grown so happily accustomed to waiting a very, very long time for these games, and acting like not waiting half a decade is somehow a bad thing.

Real GT fans would be sharing similar sentiments. GT5 came out in 2010. It's time for a replacement already. We're not supposed to wait for half a decade between installments.

There's plenty of room for improvement. If you'd get out and play other racing games, you'd know this.

1) 500+ Premium cars, like FM4 (not counting FM4 DLC that followed; just the launch list). PS3 has no limitation to how many Premium cars can come with the game. They could have two-thousand Premium cars if they wanted to, and if disc space was a problem they can use a second disc, or a third disc, and have the player install those cars from the other disc(s). It worked fine for Forza, which was on DVD.

2) Updating all the tracks to look like they're running on PS3, rather than several looking like a PS2 game. Tracks like Trial Mountain are particularly offensive, and Laguna Seca is showing its age. Again, there's no hardware limitation here.

3) Update the menus so that they're faster and more logical, without needing to bounce around confirming half a dozen times (yes, GT5 had an update that sort of improved that a bit) and not configuring the menus so that they look as though intended to be clicked with a mouse.

4) Livery editor. PS3 has no hardware limitation here.

5) Something like Forza's Storefront. Again, no hardware limitation here. Allow me to share with several million players and also allow me to share more of everything, like with Forza.

6) Allow me to save race replays as videos. Forza does. Are we suggesting PS3 can't do this?

7) More car upgrades and more tuning options. Again, Forza has this. Nothing about PS3 limits this.

8) Better rain. Even PGR4, which came out several years earlier on 360, has better-looking rain, and the rain in F1 2010 and F1 2011 makes GT5's rain seem last-gen, not just in terms of aesthetics but stuff like how rain is deeper in some spots than in others (effecting grip differently), how the track can be varying degrees of wet, and how a dry line can form on a wet track, not just visually but also felt by the player.

9) Rubber-in and marbling. F1 2010 did it, so there's no reason PS3 can't do it for GT6.

10) Qualifying and flags. Once again, no hardware limitations here.

11) More control in Course Maker. Really, this isn't as difficult as some people make it sound. We don't need polygon-by-polygon control; just more control.

12) I almost forgot to say "more tracks". Once again, this is simply a matter of disc space, which isn't a problem. Even if they can't get it onto a single disc, they can always go to disc two and have us install it.

 

[mrkevans]

Most of the above can be added via dlc, so again tell me how gt6 will be better on the ps3 when its already at its limit with gt5?

 

[Fisha695]

Most of the above can be added via dlc, so again tell me how gt6 will be better on the ps3 when its already at its limit with gt5?

If that is the attitude you have then shouldn't there only be about 100ps3 games out there because everything else that is found in the sequels could've just been patched/DLCd in?

 

[Jawehawk]

What, pray tell, makes what R1600 said ignorant?


Because it is fact that Sony said they won't be announcing the PS4 at E3, it is very likely that they wouldn't do it at TGS, and there is no way that they would do it at Gamescom.

It's not an ignorant opinion to have. It is, however, ignorant to post such things as if they were facts. It's not unheard of to have a company surprise with big products. While I don't believe the PS4 will launch this year, nor do I really want it to. I wouldn't call it implausible that they're going to talk about the PS4 at E3.

 

[JBanton]

GT6 had better not be ready next year, it shouldn't be ready until at least 2015 given that PD normal take at least 5 years between titles.

If GT6 released next year I could only imagine it would be a "GT5; Epilogue" not a GT6 in terms of content and gameplay.

Also I thought that GT6 would be better suited as a title for the Playstation 4.

 

[Samus]

GT6 had better not be ready next year, it shouldn't be ready until at least 2015 given that PD normal take at least 5 years between titles.

If GT6 released next year I could only imagine it would be a "GT5; Epilogue" not a GT6 in terms of content and gameplay.

Also I thought that GT6 would be better suited as a title for the Playstation 4.

Once again why are people accepting 5 years as reasonable dev time? It really shouldn't take that long, especially when they would jst be building on the GT5 base. So why would 3 years not be enough for a full game?

 

[JamboGT]

GT5 was a whole new engine, GT6 will be an evolution of that engine. Dev time won't be as long. The gap between GT4 and GT5 was increased due to GT HD being cancelled and the new engine being built so maybe is not representative.

 

[JBanton]

Once again why are people accepting 5 years as reasonable dev time? It really shouldn't take that long, especially when they would jst be building on the GT5 base. So why would 3 years not be enough for a full game?

Point understood, but bro, this is PD we're talking about; the masters of delays and the kings of time-taking.

 

[JamboGT]

I would say the only reason for an increased dev time is due to the ongoing work on GT5 but I reckon that there is only a small team doing that, the rest concentrating on GT6.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

We will see, but I have doubt upon it being released that soon

 

[Samus]

Point understood, but bro, this is PD we're talking about; the masters of delays and the kings of time-taking.

Yes but the only games of the series that took more than 3 years to deliver were GT1 and GT5. We already know why GT5 took so long and GT1 because it was the very first game and they had a tiny work force. So since they'll be working from GT5 as a base and their work force is ever increasing I see no reason not to expect the next game within 3 years, so before November 2013. With a PS4 likely to release in December 2014, I don't see a problem with that.

 

[JackC8]

Yeah, I remember getting all excited when GT5 was first announced - and that was an official announcement from Sony, not some guy on some website I've never heard of.

Fool me once shame on you.
Fool me twice shame on me.

 

[mrkevans]

Yes but the only games of the series that took more than 3 years to deliver were GT1 and GT5. We already know why GT5 took so long and GT1 because it was the very first game and they had a tiny work force. So since they'll be working from GT5 as a base and their work force is ever increasing I see no reason not to expect the next game within 3 years, so before November 2013. With a PS4 likely to release in December 2014, I don't see a problem with that.

Quite a big problem actually, so you think pd will release gt6 on a system that being replaced a year later? No chance, Sony will want it as a mega launch title if that's the correct time span.

 

[Samus]

Quite a big problem actually, so you think pd will release gt6 on a system that's being replaced a month later?

Read it again. 13 months later. Also November 2013 would be exactly 3 years later, it could be sooner.

 

[mrkevans]

Read it again. 13 months later. Also November 2013 would be exactly 3 years later, it could be sooner.

Sorry, miss read my bad

 

[nissman]

I see a lot of posts where people claim that we'll be waiting around for GT6 for another 5 years like it happened with GT5. I have to disagree.
Imo, the long wait for GT5 was becouse PD had to make a completly new game on a new console with new HD graphics. All the hard and long work for PD is now done. Now they just have to upgrade the game into GT6, get us some new cars/tracks and some new ideas that would freshen up the game.
So I think GT6 will not be such a long wait as it was for GT5. But still the game is not excatlly around the corner. My guess is, GT6 it will still be on PS3.

 

[Tornado]

Most of the above can be added via dlc

so again tell me how gt6 will be better on the ps3 when its already at its limit with gt5?

*sigh*. Not this AGAIN.

I wouldn't call it implausible that they're going to talk about the PS4 at E3.

Seems pretty implausible to me:

http://www.computerandvideogames.co...contemplating-future-console-talk-says-house/

http://www.1up.com/news/no-ps4-announcement-e3

So I'm still having a hard time understanding why taking the statements of "Andy is absolutely right in that we are not making any announcements at E3" and "I've always said a 10-year life cycle for PS3, and there is no reason to go away from that" at face value is some heinous act.

 

[XEPEGTP]

Why would you hope it's a joke, new Gt on the PS3 would be great

If GT5 is already at the limits of PS3...the only approach to take would be 'less is more', less cars and less tracks dont make people more happy.

We already know GT5 Premium assets will be used in future editions, so dont expect a graphical leap, whats left is more features, sound and advanced physics , all of which might as well be SPECIII

 

[Jawehawk]

So I'm still having a hard time understanding why taking the statements of "Andy is absolutely right in that we are not making any announcements at E3" and "I've always said a 10-year life cycle for PS3, and there is no reason to go away from that" at face value is some heinous act.[/color][/font][/b]

Are you only reading part of my comments or something? Again, it's not unheard of that companies bring out surprises. The person I was responding to was stating that the upcomming press conference won't have any talk about the PS4, as if it was fact. And fact is, it isn't. It's likely that there won't be any talk about it, but it's not impossible. Again, Sony could just be attempting to hide it until the reveal.

I haven't stated anything as fact. Rather, I've stated possibilities. Something I've made very clear in my posts. Try reading my actual comments, that way you can respond appropriately.

 

[sikbeta]

What a waste if it's for PS3, HW is really old, imagine what PD can do with better and more powerful hardware

GT6 x PS4

 

[TankAss95]

I had the same idea but...just can't wait!

of course TankAss95 copyrighted! 👍

👍

 

[Tornado]

Are you only reading part of my comments or something?

Are you only reading part of your comments or something?

Again, it's not unheard of that companies bring out surprises. The person I was responding to was stating that the upcomming press conference won't have any talk about the PS4, as if it was fact. And fact is, it isn't.

No. But it is fact that Sony stated multiple times that there will not be any talk about PS4 news at E3, which kinda makes it so stating that there won't be any PS4 news this year a perfectly acceptable conclusion to make, which kinda makes your post chewing him out for it ridiculous. And when the only justification you have for calling that viewpoint ignorant is "companies bring out surprises," it doesn't really lend credence to anything you are saying, because companies also tend to not bring out surprises. That's why they are called surprises.

 

[Jawehawk]

Are you only reading part of your comments or something?

Please elaborate?

No. But it is fact that Sony stated multiple times that there will not be any talk about PS4 news at E3, which kinda makes it so stating that there won't be any PS4 news this year a perfectly acceptable conclusion to make, b]

It certianly is. As an OPINION! Not as a fact. My entire point was that he should not go around saying it as if it was fact. It's a well founded opinion, but not a fact.

 

[Samus]

If GT5 is already at the limits of PS3...the only approach to take would be 'less is more', less cars and less tracks dont make people more happy.

We already know GT5 Premium assets will be used in future editions, so dont expect a graphical leap, whats left is more features, sound and advanced physics , all of which might as well be SPECIII

You have got to be kidding me.

 

[Foxiol]

I don't want to wait PS4 to play GT6. Make GT6 for PS3 and then work on GT7 for PS4

And that is the real debate here...do you want a more polished GT6 or a downgraded version again? I mean look at the PS3 hardware and look at the game now. Man the PS3 barely handles GT5 and they had to downgrade the graphics and some more things that looked ugly. Even the resolution is not real 1080p (1280 x 1080p) and the frame rate is close to 60 and sometimes lower. Replays are locked at 30FPS.

Read This: http://imagequalitymatters.blogspot.com.es/2010/12/tech-analysis-gran-turismo-5.html

And also i think that the sound is not realistic because of the poor RAM that the PS3 has too. (maybe but other games just have the sound right...)

I mean you can´t find a game that looks better in the PS3 and running at that frame rate.

IF you want GT6 for the PS3 you are going to see almost the same BUT if you want to see some upgrades (not just all cars being Premium and more features like a GT5.5) and more polished graphics/details (blocky shadows, smoke, trees,etc) they need or: to downgrade the resolution a little bit more (bad thing) and the frame rate will drop too (locked at a 30FPS, bad thing for a GT game too).

Some people wants GT5.5 but i want a better GT6 talking about all areas not just about features and more cars and tracks. I want this game for GT6.
Now keep upgrading this game with features and giving more cars and tracks just to keep it alive and that´s all.

I really don´t want to see the same thing in the next instalment. I want GT6 to be a great game not only for fans but for those that didn´t like it and had a bad impression because of the obvious not finished/polished overall product.
(missing features, details, standard cars as a sign that they "didn´t have time" to finish the game properly...and more)

Just wait and keep playing GT5...be patient. GT6 in 2014 with PS4? Signed.


P.S: I am being objective here because i love this game more than most of you...even i bought the Signature Edition and still play it and also i play rFactor on PC too but always have time for GT5. Just want that this game kick some a**es (competition) and kill the critics next time being as "perfect" as it should be.

 

[Samus]

Why did they bother making a GT game on PS3 at all then and what makes you think the PS4 will be able to do everything wants as well? Maybe they should wait until PS5 when it can do even more.

I've said it a thousand times but what GT5 lacks the most is content, and content at equal quality. Not many people drive a premium car around the 24Hr Nurburgring and think it looks bad, it looks great. There is nothing stopping all of the cars and tracks being that quality on PS3, as again i've said countless times.

 

[xxDingerxx]

I've said it a thousand times but what GT5 lacks the most is content, and content at equal quality. Not many people drive a premium car around the 24Hr Nurburgring and think it looks bad, it looks great. There is nothing stopping all of the cars and tracks being that quality on PS3, as again i've said countless times.

Time is what stops them. Plain and simple.

This whole argument has to be put into perspective. The "other" game has the same problem that GT5 had. There very highest LOD modelled cars only number 26 odd, that took them about two years to do.

Fact is, you want content of such a high quality, you are just gonna have to wait for it.