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There are enough cars to keep me interested but I would like to know how many cars have cockpit view because that is what I use. I also love some standard cars from GT5 so hope they got upgrades.
GT6 Official Car List Impressions/Thoughts
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Yeah, PD is getting the enthusiast guys excited, but what about everyone else? Im not as much of a gear head as some here, I had no idea that Renault had an illustrious racing history. Yet Im a bit more knowledgeable about the latest cars then your average joe. I would think my type makes up a larger majority of Gran Turismo's fanbase. The guy who would rather see the racecars on TV and the cars on modern magazine covers in the game before exploring the history of the automobile.
PD is a dinosaur. They did some really cool things in the 90s, yet they've remained stuck in their ways and have no adapted at all. And why should they? Each game has sold 10,000,000 copies. Its like why should Madden actually try and improve the game every year when, like GT, it always sells well despite mediocre reviews?
No, I do not have access to the F word. That experience will set me back $800, console and system, and wheel, and game, and I cant justify it over one title, as nothing else on the system interests me. So Polyphony Digital once again wins by default as I have no other choice at the moment for a simulation racer.
I noticed alot of people saying PD would go extinct quickly if both top console sims were multiplatform. I dont think thats the case. I think competition would push the quality of both forward at a much faster rate. PD would start making a more desirable car list while the F word would implement time of day and weather much quicker, etc etc. It would be win win for everyone.
Like Madden, I think both racing titles are suffering from a real lack of competition.
"Yeah, PD is getting the enthusiast guys excited, but what about everyone else?"
Yes thats correct. Thats why iam playing GT and other racing Sims. If i wouldnt be a enthusiast than i would Play NFS. Its a racing game too but not so deep like GT, perfect for a "non enthusiast "guy : D ; ).
I think it's more then 2 years of the GT 5 release right ? There are KIDS playing everyday on London and still crashing into EVERY corner. I know that these guys dont know cars like the gordini, and i know that these people are the same ones that are whining for the hyper cars (not all of them). The typical GTR/Bugatti drivers in GT.
Thank you PD that you dont Listen to them ! They can go and Play NFS (BTW i really dont understand why they are not playing NFS instead of GT)
And Thanks that we get the Gordini, and i hope the Golf MK1 too.
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Thanks. These cars give me hope of the return of Pikes Peak for future DLC.
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Jawehawk
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And people can do that as they please, but this self-entitled BS that's going on here is getting pathetic. Basically, there's a different between saying you don't like the cars included, to saying that a company has lost all touch with their consumers because they don't feature the particular cars that one person wants. It's not that I give a damn about what people says about PD. It's that the massive amounts of whining going on on this forum is getting ridicules.
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I'm confused and have been since reading replies similar to your own, if this is the "GT6 Official Car List Impressions/Thoughts" thread, then wouldn't complaints about said car list be both an impression and thought?
Otherwise all I'm seeing is those, similar to yourself, perpetuating the stereotype of "be positive or don't bother replying" which isn't at all what this thread, let alone the forum itself, is about.
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I am happy with the car list. What bothers me is that we could have this...
or another Hyper Car. Instead we got this
Whats wrong with you PD?
Forza worked with McLaren for the P1. So Forza likely have exclusive FIRST rights to it, much as they had with the SRT Viper initially. I'm getting rather tired of people complaining about the P1 all over GTP... It will come. PD have other McLarens in it. But it can't now due to likely licensing issues.
The problem with that is you're just making an assumption to create an excuse why PD didn't model it.
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I believe there's a difference between whining and being self-entitled, compared to stating valid critisisms.
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Not an assumption. It's known that the McLaren P1 is the cover car of Forza 5. SRT Viper - Viper rights went to T10 probably (they also included the Le Mans GTE spec car). Same reason why the Corvette C7 first appeared in GT5 and NOT Forza. It's a case that's being repeated with the McLaren P1 being used first in Forza, and will be with the NSX Concept in GT6.
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If you can't see the assumptions you've just made above I can't really say any more.
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Yeah, PD is getting the enthusiast guys excited, but what about everyone else? Im not as much of a gear head as some here, I had no idea that Renault had an illustrious racing history
PD is a dinosaur. They did some really cool things in the 90s, yet they've remained stuck in their ways and have no adapted at all. And why should they? Each game has sold 10,000,000 copies. Its like why should Madden actually try and improve the game every year when, like GT, it always sells well despite mediocre reviews?
No, I do not have access to the F word. That experience will set me back $800, console and system, and wheel, and game, and I cant justify it over one title, as nothing else on the system interests me. So Polyphony Digital once again wins by default as I have no other choice at the moment for a simulation racer.
I noticed alot of people saying PD would go extinct quickly if both top console sims were multiplatform. I dont think thats the case. I think competition would push the quality of both forward at a much faster rate. PD would start making a more desirable car list while the F word would implement time of day and weather much quicker, etc etc. It would be win win for everyone.
Like Madden, I think both racing titles are suffering from a real lack of competition.
I personally think that it's better that there are games like GT to challenge "your type" of enthusiast. Just because you're in the majority, it doesn't mean you're justified in wanting only the things that are constantly waved under your nose by a system geared up to make you part with your cash, and reinforce that situation through image promotion and general media hegemony.
It doesn't mean that GT should be shaped by your particular demands over, say, mine. But hey, you're welcome to do what you want and to expect what you want, but it doesn't necessarily mean you should get what you want from the first available outlet. Although it'd be nice for everyone if that were possible.
And you always have a choice. In my ideal world, there would be far more diversity in the genre, and then these issues just wouldn't arise. You'd naturally gravitate to the game that suits your "type"; instead, traditional market domination tactics mean that one game has to capture the "entire" market. Which isn't actually possible. It's nonsense.
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Around here I've often seen criticisms explicitly labelled as whining, so it would appear that they aren't different at all. If people are disappointed in the car list currently present in GT6, then so be it as there's reason to be and even more of a reason to wonder why certain cars are still absent.
Going out of your way on a crusade to preach what is and isn't won't change anything.
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Yeah. I love Gordini. An awesome 60's-70's french car that was good at rally. Golf MK1 is a good idea to be premium. (Remember it was a standard in GT5 yet). I'M so happy about M3 GT2 because its one of my favourite race cars.
So I will paint it pink for my pink car championship. LOL. 
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You are so right. Im the bad guy here, not Polyphony Digital
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Yeah, PD is getting the enthusiast guys excited, but what about everyone else? Im not as much of a gear head as some here, I had no idea that Renault had an illustrious racing history
Nobody here expects you to know everything in the history of motorsports,
, but since much of it is accessible on the internet now, why not read up on some it? It has a more interesting history than most other sports I think.There is just one car that they need to truly call it a "car encyclopedia", and it's been staring them in the face ever since they obtained the Bugatti license. They even mention it in the Veyron's description in GT5 in fact.
The Type 35. You cannot write a book on the history of auto racing without mentioning this car at least once. It raced in every type of event imaginable, and won a staggering amount of them. It is a product of light weight racing car philosophy before Colin Chapman was even born. Ettore Bugatti wanted his cars to be so light, he even used cable operated brakes, and much of the bodywork was attached to the chassis with nothing but copper wire. It had a straight 8 engine with 3 valves per cylinder, overhead camshaft, very advanced stuff for the time. It also had 50/50 weight distribution. These cars competed in and won races like the Targa Florio and Mille Miglia, and they still run today. Most likely everyone here has seen one already, either in photographs, films, drawings or paintings. It is one of the most iconic racing cars of all time.
It would certainly be a lot more fun to drive than a Lunar Rover.
Other than that... I'm pretty happy with the car list.
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I found out that they changed 905's name to: Peugeot 905B Evo 1 Bis LM '92
Renault 5 Turbo changed to: Renault R5 Turbo '80
It's rally version to: Renault Sport R5 Turbo Rallye '85
Suzuki Escudo's name changed to: Suzuki V6 ESCUDO Pikes Peak Special '98
Toyota 7 Race Car changed to: Toyota 7 '70
Honda's HSC name changed also to: Honda HSC "The 37th Tokyo Motor Show Concept Car" '03
And Audi's TT-R name to: Audi Abt Audi TT-R '02
Those are the names that got changed from GT5 until now.
Renault 5 Turbo changed to: Renault R5 Turbo '80
It's rally version to: Renault Sport R5 Turbo Rallye '85
Suzuki Escudo's name changed to: Suzuki V6 ESCUDO Pikes Peak Special '98
Toyota 7 Race Car changed to: Toyota 7 '70
Honda's HSC name changed also to: Honda HSC "The 37th Tokyo Motor Show Concept Car" '03
And Audi's TT-R name to: Audi Abt Audi TT-R '02
Those are the names that got changed from GT5 until now.
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He never said PD didn't model it. He said they didn't include it & gave a reason as to why he believes so.
As to whether or not it's true, it is the most logical explanation rather than PD just not bothering to get the car at all, unless you would finally care to give some evidence-backed input as to why you think the car isn't in GT6 instead of just telling people they're guessing.
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They are spoilt beyond reason in my book. More GT3 cars, more SuperGT cars, more racing cars in general, some purpose built track cars - what's there more to ask?
Yet another Hypercar for all the Clarksons out there?
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Why am I being singled out again? I've done nothing but echo the sentiments of the majority of people on this forum. I've made the point Polyphony Digital is not creating content based on what their customer wants. As a business that offers goods, that is their job. And I have the right to complain. I want Polyphony Digital to do their job better. The problem is they're not. They're repeating the same mistakes over and over and over. Making it abundantly clear they do not pay attention at all to consumer feedback. As a business, thats terrible policy, but they get away with it because there is no competition.
But oh, I am a self entitled, demanding, unreasonable son of a gun who wants what he wants when he wants it and how he wants it, right? The only way that has a chance of being true is if those who think the same way I do were in the minority, which is certainly not the case.
Yes, this is an enthusiast forum, and its seen as cool to praise obscure cars from 50 years ago while pretending to not care about all the modern marvels that are missing. Its a mistake to think people who know the history of the Gordita or love to race openwheel boats on comfort hard tires make up any substantial part of the GT fanbase.
But there is no need to capture the 'entire' market. The idea is to cater to your target audience first, and then expand form there. Exactly who is this dysfunctional car list targeted at? If anything it tries to do what you condemn, it tries to capture the entire market. Thus it ends up a jack of all trades and a master of none. Yet from the tone of your posts it appears your just fine with the new car list, while attacking and attempting to silence those who have issue with it. In fact your attitude of 'if its not good enough for you too bad' is entirely anti-consumer and entirely the wrong way of going about things.
Finally, to Polyphony Digital I say this: learn from Sony and how they built the PS4 by building the next Gran Turismo around what the community wants, or watch your brand fade into 2nd tier territory.
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Dropping needless duplicates for one.
If you're satisfied with the car list on-hand then that's perfectly fine, but insinuating that others are spoiled because they dare to question why their favorite car(s) still aren't represented in what is, hands down, the single most popular console sim racer is missing the point entirely.
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