GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[TechnoIsLove]

** UPDATE **

Did my first race of the week and as he would say:

Started in P10 and from the pre-race lobby chat, I knew I needed to keep an eye on others.... Some questionable driving and decisions from others + using 110% of my online driving experience, I managed to deal with the things sent my way! 🥳 I honestly am very happy with what I did in those six laps as it truly was an occasion of maximum effort from my end!

Long story short: P10 to P11 to P5 finish 😁🥳😎

 

[newmedia_dev]

** UPDATE **

Did my first race of the week and as he would say:

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Started in P10 and from the pre-race lobby chat, I knew I needed to keep an eye on others.... Some questionable driving and decisions from others + using 110% of my online driving experience, I managed to deal with the things sent my way! 🥳 I honestly am very happy with what I did in those six laps as it truly was an occasion of maximum effort from my end!

Long story short: P10 to P11 to P5 finish 😁🥳😎



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What a time to be alive when Gr4 should be known as group (name the weekly meta)

The irony is I've been actually racing this week and those QTs are not really showing in the race....one thing to hit a good lap in 10 it's another to race at that pace for 6 in a row....but what would I know 😉

 

[appu]

On a side note I am curious as to what is considered fastest?
1) 1/2 lap dry on full wets with 1/2 lap with the rain gauge over the 2nd bar
or

2) 1/2 lap day on inters with 1/2 lap with the rain gauge over the 2nd bar

I never did that but based on my experience this week so far, I would say that tire life is a massive factor. So the wets will be slower both on the dry patch and on the wet patch due to having worn out more.

Sorry, I take back my answer. I don't know the answer. I just tried the 1st one (1/2 dry lap on wets then rest of the race with rain at 2/3 wet bar) after always trying only 2nd one (inters because of having 1/2 dry lap).

Drivers at my level (me included) aren't consistent enough to get an answer. But I felt that overall, the worn wets were faster than worn IMs (maybe even faster than fresh IMs) when the wet bar was at 2/3 throughout. I would fall back on GP part and the straights before regaining on the hell part over fresh IM runners. Overall, I gained more than I lost.

In summary, I don't have confidence to give an answer.

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I just saw that I now have 884 hours in this game! This officially makes it my most played game, beating DotA2 at 749 hours (last played Aug 12, 2014! Almost exactly 10-year anniversary). I had initially bought the game only to run at the Nordschleife as it was the only track I had not raced at in my gaming history. I ended up loving the dynamic weather and the day-night at the offline Spa money grinder race. Then I stayed for the Sport part.

Playing 6-lap at Nordschleife with dynamic weather is a fitting time to realize that GT7 is now my most played game. Fingers crossed that PD gets more adventurous and brings day-night cycle just like the offline Spa money grinder race.

 

[TheNormsk]

Drivers at my level (me included) aren't consistent enough to get an answer. But I felt that overall, the worn wets were faster than worn IMs (maybe even faster than fresh IMs) when the wet bar was at 2/3 throughout. I would fall back on GP part and the straights before regaining on the hell part over fresh IM runners. Overall, I gained more than I lost.

Yeah, I can't decide. When I ran my first race I did the 1 lap on RH and then 2 laps on IMs and 3 laps on W and won. But my overall time was not impressive and rain was only really heavy laps 3 and 4 but the track never really started to dry until lap 6. Putting on the W at end of lap 3 I think gave me an advantage over others that came in end of lap 2 for W after struggling lap 2 with RH in decent rain for 1/2 lap. My W were fresher at the end and I was able to charge harder even though i pitted twice.

The other races I've only pitted once and the results were mixed indeed. Given that the back half of the track tends to be wetter than the GP side I think I have done better being on W over IM as long as the moisture meter gets to the second bar as it is slow to dry off once the rain stops.

 

[Havolineman]

So Blue Moon has been very good for my DR so far this week. I've gotten it up to 70% of B thanks mainly to finding the NSX, thanks to Sturk, I find it much more stable than the Lambo and thus I've been much more consistent in it.

Would love to run C but the time requirement for it is pretty huge. Just posting a good QT seems like it would take forever. I might focus on it later in the week. I ran one QT lap in the 911 at about 80% just to get a time idea and it was 8.38. lol.

I would love tho for someone to do some type of scientific study on what makes players do the following, which I see all the time.

example - I start a race and notice pretty quickly the guy in front of me is a bit erratic, maybe he's nervous, maybe he has a bad connection or maybe he's just pushing too hard, IDK. But he's making several small mistakes over the course of a lap or so. It's allowing me to get right up on him, but now I'm a bit concerned that I'm gonna get hit while passing him. But I gotta go and go fast.

So I get around him and pull out to a few car lengths lead and then I notice in the rear view, magically, he's developed laser focus. He's all over me in a quarter or half lap while making zero mistakes and sure enough he passes me, moves out to a few car lengths lead and then starts the mistakes again. And the process repeats. Grrrr........

 

[icycls]

Would love to run C but the time requirement for it is pretty huge. Just posting a good QT seems like it would take forever. I might focus on it later in the week. I ran one QT lap in the 911 at about 80% just to get a time idea and it was 8.38. lol.

Honestly, I wouldn't worry too much about grid placement in this race. Maybe those in top split A+ lobbies care, but for most of us, there is far too much chaos and variable skill level spread over 50ish minutes to worry about starting lower on the grid.

 

[jenson86]

I thinking about this at work today, this week is a funny one.

Samba buses that you don't need to brake in....a one make B with the illusion of choice....and then C as a massive ramp up in time commitment, staying power and then pseudo random weather.

Just weird all round. Everyone's mileage varies with these things and there is fun/carnage to be had in all of the races but just doesn't feel like a cohesive set this week with such very different race feels and setups (not car set ups)

Edit:

For B I also understand now why they haven't used it till now. While it's a nice short track overtaking really sensibly happens at the hairpin and out dragging people. It makes the race feel like a nerve wracking lunge fest.

A fun track to lap but for racing it would probably suit slower/cars rather than Gr4 one make that it quickly became

I tried it now 7 times, it is definitely not just pseudo weather! Every single race was different, getting the best strategy was not always easy. I also had a race when it got wet lap 2 onwards and later getting dry again. Best strategy was risking RH after lap 4, I didn’t dare to do it and stayed on IM which completely died and lost me the whole race. Pitted after lap 5 for RH, which was too late. There isn’t any pattern like in the Spa race we had once.

Of course one thing you said earlier is true, the track is too long, if you get strategy wrong you are fighting with even less drivers who also got it wrong. A 50min race on a shorter track with dynamic weather would be more forgiving.

 

[meicalnissyen]

Mebbe its a love of pain, but I've relished Spa and RBR in pouring rain. I think its poorly done this week though, BIG TIME.

My objective reasons.

1. All week, after an hour of white knuckle rain racing, my reward will be nuthin but a sudden black screen.

the strategy aspect is relatively mute when the majority of the field has quit, because of the 10 minute lap times

6 laps at 9;30 won't finish


so, its just not fun, in that the effort to reward is just so skewed from normal.


tho looking at the A race, normal, and fun, not really on offer

 

[Tazzy-91]

Have been struggling with motion sickness with the PSVR so i got travel sickness tablets today and tried them out to see would they help at all. Im glad to report that i managed nearly 1 hour trouble free....if only my driving reflected that i would be grand 😅😅 anyway, its a thing that will get better as i get more accustomed to it. I wont give up yet. This video is nothing special, in fact its ****e but it does highlight the very different experience that VR provides. I am pretty confident that I can get down to around 8 minutes by the end of the week hopefully. I wore my wrist brace which wasn't helping either 🙈. Anyway, 19 minutes on was my best lap but I still binned it 😅😅😅 I have driving line and brake markers on purely because I am getting used to the vr and driving left hand drive 🙈🙈

Edit: not sure is there sound yet, I think it's still uploading properly. I will do my best to do a proper lap tomorrow when I have 2 good hands and a bit more cop on about driving on the left hand side of the car 🤣🤣

 

[Jflijohn]

I tried it now 7 times, it is definitely not just pseudo weather! Every single race was different, getting the best strategy was not always easy. I also had a race when it got wet lap 2 onwards and later getting dry again. Best strategy was risking RH after lap 4, I didn’t dare to do it and stayed on IM which completely died and lost me the whole race. Pitted after lap 5 for RH, which was too late. There isn’t any pattern like in the Spa race we had once.

Of course one thing you said earlier is true, the track is too long, if you get strategy wrong you are fighting with even less drivers who also got it wrong. A 50min race on a shorter track with dynamic weather would be more forgiving.

I couldn't imagine getting stuck at Nurburgring with RH in the wet. I got stuck at Spa with the wrong tires in a gully-washer and couldn't get back to the pits and thats only 1/4 ish the length of Nordscheife.

Are you changing tires more than once? decisions based on weather radar?

My only race was last night and it was dry and my most valuable tool was a map.

 

[Tazzy-91]

I tried it now 7 times, it is definitely not just pseudo weather! Every single race was different, getting the best strategy was not always easy. I also had a race when it got wet lap 2 onwards and later getting dry again. Best strategy was risking RH after lap 4, I didn’t dare to do it and stayed on IM which completely died and lost me the whole race. Pitted after lap 5 for RH, which was too late. There isn’t any pattern like in the Spa race we had once.

Of course one thing you said earlier is true, the track is too long, if you get strategy wrong you are fighting with even less drivers who also got it wrong. A 50min race on a shorter track with dynamic weather would be more forgiving.

Correct me if I am wrong but is this not what we actually want?? I gave out about having 4 dry races but I guess it was just a good day, one thing we cannot predict is the weather, I think they should leave races like this as an option, I.e a race D. I personally enjoy races like this rather than trying to be running around blue moon in identical cars like bloody lemmings....????

 

[meicalnissyen]

I couldn't imagine getting stuck at Nurburgring with RH in the wet. I got stuck at Spa with the wrong tires in a gully-washer and couldn't get back to the pits and thats only 1/4 ish the length of Nordscheife.

Are you changing tires more than once? decisions based on weather radar?

My only race was last night and it was dry.

I missed the group in front boxing, and did a lap on RH in the rain, 13:46.
Yea weather radar, 1rst lap is dry. inters are not working for me, full wets if I try again. hnestly, if it rains, I'll quit. its just not like rain at a normal track. 3 laps on wets for a B race would be ok, but this format has to many not fun scenarios

Correct me if I am wrong but is this not what we actually want?? I gave out about having 4 dry races but I guess it was just a good day, one thing we cannot predict is the weather, I think they should leave races like this as an option, I.e a race D. I personally enjoy races like this rather than trying to be running around blue moon in identical cars like bloody lemmings....????

Well, I believe the choices are not really bad or gawdawful. its a bit more nuanced. If its fun, do it if not, less so, yea?
take this A race, I think driving a superspeedway in vw's on CH is moronic, but thats subjective. Some may find it a challenge to sit and enjoy feeling like youve been poisoned for 15 min

Have been struggling with motion sickness with the PSVR so i got travel sickness tablets today and tried them out to see would they help at all. Im glad to report that i managed nearly 1 hour trouble free....if only my driving reflected that i would be grand 😅😅 anyway, its a thing that will get better as i get more accustomed to it. I wont give up yet. This video is nothing special, in fact its ****e but it does highlight the very different experience that VR provides. I am pretty confident that I can get down to around 8 minutes by the end of the week hopefully. I wore my wrist brace which wasn't helping either 🙈. Anyway, 19 minutes on was my best lap but I still binned it 😅😅😅 I have driving line and brake markers on purely because I am getting used to the vr and driving left hand drive 🙈🙈

Edit: not sure is there sound yet, I think it's still uploading properly. I will do my best to do a proper lap tomorrow when I have 2 good hands and a bit more cop on about driving on the left hand side of the car 🤣🤣

Thanks for that, I also have the $600 paper weight.

I saw a vid where a dude listed half a dozen hacks on this topic, I took home the running the goggle as dim as possible, and run a box fan at your face. the last is an old RT trick for COPD relief, skin cells send good vibes to the brain

 

[Tazzy-91]

Well, I believe the choices are not really bad or gawdawful. its a bit more nuanced. If its fun, do it if not, less so, yea?
take this A race, I think driving a superspeedway in vw's on CH is moronic, but thats subjective. Some may find it a challenge to sit and enjoy feeling like youve been poisoned for 15 min

Totally agree with you. Don't get me wrong, I love good racing, Watkins Glen a couple of weeks ago was a perfect example of how normal people could compete with others normally out of our reach. Set 4 races with 4 different experiences, including in that a specific tuning race and an endurance BoP race with dynamic weather and see how it goes. I love racing at the Nur purely because it gives you some chance to make up time and places as it's unpredictable, that is real racing. Anyway, probably just me ranting as this bloody baby is still not appearing yet 🤣🤣

 

[WheelmanSteve]

Pitted from P2 and gooned the tire change- stayed on RH's, needed WETS! Oh man! This is a riot, tho!

 

[Tazzy-91]

Thanks for that, I also have the $600 paper weight.

I saw a vid where a dude listed half a dozen hacks on this topic, I took home the running the goggle as dim as possible, and run a box fan at your face. the last is an old RT trick for COPD relief, skin cells send good vibes to the brain

The pills did the trick, its only me getting used to it but after spending 300e on the set i wasn't going to leave it idle. Its purely getting your brain used to it, i tried again this evening after a pint or 2 on a free run and got down to an 8:03. I might chance the 911 tomorrow but i have kind of lost faith in it since the update. Will go again tomorrow with no Guinness and see what happens 🤣

 

[TheNormsk]

I am pretty confident that I can get down to around 8 minutes by the end of the week hopefully

You should be able to do it. I had a quick spin in the M6 today and got my time down to 8:02.

Now, I hear the M6 is not so good in the wet, so I’m not sure if this is the car for the race but it is awesome for QT.

 

[afc5150]

2 more C races tonight, both completely dry.

Race 1 was horrible, started Q9 (my 8:03 isn't holding up) and snagged a 4 second contact penalty on lap 1 in a big train wreck. Served that and was near the back. Many mistakes later and woefully trying to save fuel for a no stopper and I was firmly at the back. Pit after 5 laps because I wasn't going to make it, but due to people quitting I ended up in P7 of 8 finishers and I actually finished with a slight DR gain.

Race 2 went much better as I wasn't messing around with fuel saving this time. Ran 6 error free laps going from Q5 to P2 catching and passing a no stopper on the last lap. P1 finished over 40 seconds up the road doing a 1 stop! How?!

6 races in this week: 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 7th, 2nd. And pretty set in DR-A now.

 

[jrbabbitt]

the strategy aspect is relatively mute when the majority of the field has quit, because of the 10 minute lap times

6 laps at 9;30 won't finish

It's because of the lack of determination in those racers is why my DR is climbing, I start in back and after all the wannabes quit I find myself 6-7 places up and my DR goes up.

 

[TheNormsk]

What a difference when you get your tire strategy right! Only did the one race but it was my best result yet and a commanding win.

Started on pole after getting a new QT of 8:02. I said I wasn't going to do this but I chased a ghost... That actually showed me some better lines that I now use in race so it was educational. I doubled checked my Alfa 4C this time and started on RH. The radar made me think the rain would hit sometime lap 2 but be light.

First lap, I'm not sure what happened to P2 but I left him behind and had an untroubled first lap. Rain still was some miles away at the end of the lap and still light blue so I stayed on RHs. By Defense Valley (back half of the track) it started raining and I dialed up the TCS to 3. P2 had also caught up with me by this stage. He would fall back then catch up, rinse and repeat. On the long straight he passed me so I was down to P2. He was in a NSX GT500 - that thing is quick!

The rain gauge was creeping up to the first bar and I figured it would get worst in the back half of the course so I pitted and got inters. To my surprise P1 stayed out as did P3 and 4 and I fell back to P4 as I exited the pits. I accidentally cross the line and got a 3s penalty. Idiot.

As soon as I reentered the Nord, the rain gauge jumped over the first bar. Inter territory so I new I'd made the right choice and figured I'd catch the others. In VR I have no indication on what the splits are or where cars are. I was driving blind, so it was all hope that I was actually catching them. I caught P3 at the Foxhole and passed P1 to take the lead in Little Valley. He'd crashed and the rain gauge was now near the second bar. After that I sped off knowing they had no hope to keep up on Hards with this much moisture.

I never saw another car. My laps were about as perfect as I could be. I was constantly worried that perhaps I was driving too slow and P2 would suddenly catch me up. Again I had no idea knowing how I stood in comparison to others. I really wish PD would put splits in the HUD (perhaps they consider VR too much of an advantage?).

The rain had completely stopped as I approached the end of lap 5. That section of track was dry but there was a good chance the back side of Nord was still wet as the rain had moved off in that direction. The dilemma was do I pit for RHs and include the pit time or proceed and try to keep life in my tires (they were down to about 40% life with a lap to go). I carried on. I was right though, the wet track came back, almost up to the first bar on the gauge even though no rain. I drove off the dry line were I could. A couple spots near the end I was struggling with about 5% life in the front and 2% at the back but drove cautiously to not make any silly mistakes.

I was constantly looking in my mirrors expecting P2 to come charge up, but it never happened and I finished in P1.

Considering I had no idea on my gap to P2, it turned out that not a single car made it to the finished line within 90s of me.

In consideration of the Alfa. It is a fabulous car on this track. You can really dance it though the corners and it is good in the wet. It would probably lose in a dry race though.

 

[zjn]

Question related to race B, but actually more general for racew without tyres and fuel consumption:

Is the in-race conditions equal to quali (assuming clean air in front and behind)?
I'm asking because i struggling to reproduce my quali In race, best i did by now is +1s

Thanks

 

[Fezzik]

Next week, back to normality:

A - Special Stage Route X, sports softs, I think by now we can guess the cars
B - Catalunya GP No Chicane, Race Mediums, 1x/1x
C - Watkins Glen short, Race Hards, 1x fuel/2x tyre, 1 stop

 

[newmedia_dev]

Next week, back to normality:

A - Special Stage Route X, sports softs, I think by now we can guess the cars
B - Catalunya GP No Chicane, Race Mediums, 1x/1x
C - Watkins Glen short, Race Hards, 1x fuel/2x tyre, 1 stop

A: tuned hyper cars
B: Gr3
C: Gr4 with a stop and go pit

 

[jenson86]

Correct me if I am wrong but is this not what we actually want?? I gave out about having 4 dry races but I guess it was just a good day, one thing we cannot predict is the weather, I think they should leave races like this as an option, I.e a race D. I personally enjoy races like this rather than trying to be running around blue moon in identical cars like bloody lemmings....????

Of course this is exactly what we want. For me it is the best daily race ever. It is just a bit unfortunate they went directly to the most challenging race ever. Could have given us a shorter wet race to start with, without worrying about fuel on top. I understand it is not for everyone, especially that long. That’s why a race D would be brilliant, but I doubt this will ever happen in GT7.

@Normsk I also ran 8.02, you doing well with VR now! I know I could get it below 8min, but I rather spend my time in races. Qualifying not that important here.

Anyone who doesn’t like the Porsche since the update, Renault is easier to handle. Give it a try.

 

[Talon16]

Meme race is back. @sturk0167 will be happy. And WG short for Daily C? Hmmm...

Edit: Beat

 

[Chris30]

Awesome, looking forward to the mega fun at SSRX!

 

[Fukkie_76]

This race is amazing and should be kept permanently.

Yes, thoroughly enjoying Race C. I'm not particularly competitive when it comes to lap times, but by making fewer mistakes, letting faster drivers pass (and overtaking them when they crash), and staying focused, it’s a pleasant way to spend the day... Driving the NSX GT500 '00."

 

[Goanaut]

Hi everyone! As the Nordschleife is too much of a (time) commitment for me as a young dad, I stick to race B this week. Did 4 races yesterday. This is how they went:

Race 1: Full C / S lobby. Started 2nd but lost some positions. Saw several people in front of me fighting quite hard and even bumping each other deliberately (by the looks of it). Got passed by someone who completely missed the first corner at the bridge section, I stayed on the inside and he also cut back to the inside against me, causing him to spin. Because it looked like his fault I drove on. At the last lap I made a mistake, causing me to meet the same guy again. He had 4 seconds of penalty's and was clearly mad at me. He passed me again, but when I could pass him again he tried to make my life miserable. Even so I passed him just before the penalty line (so before he got ghosted), he tried to ram me off but missed. So I took some satisfaction that I overtook him on track. Finished 7th because of this overall wild ride.

Race 2: Mixed C / S and B / C lobby. Started 2nd and finished 3rd. Nice close racing. I was worried about the sportsmanship of the B / C drivers, but I finished ahead of three of them and never gave them a chance to wreck my race.

Race 3: Mixed C / S and B / C lobby. Started 2nd and had a great fight to the end with another C / S rated driver. He won and I was 0.4 seconds behind. Rest of the field was more than 3 seconds behind. We complimented eachother in the chat afterwards.

Race 4: Got promoted to B / S and now got a full B / S lobby. I saw the same guy who just won also in this race, so he just got promoted as well. I now started 6th. The driving was slightly more consistent from everyone. I finished 5th, again within a second of the winner of the previous race.

So a very nice feeling overall! Three clean races, only the first one a bit debatable.

 

[Talon16]

So the Dailies this week have been very good, IMO. Well... B and C anyway. Never really been a race A person so ignoring that (and even if I was I'd be ignoring it anyway this week).

Love me some Nord but I almost have to say I wish it was shorter. I have found it difficult - for me anyway - to be able to do any of these this week. With the time required and the once an hour start, it's definitely a chunk of time required to do a race. Hard to carve out in a real life. Kinda wish it was four laps with starting every 30 mins, even if it overlaps a bit. Week is half over and I've only been able to do two of these.

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Race B, I wish was next week. Why? Because it's a blast and I don't want to have to decide between B and C. This combo just works and it baffles me that it took PD so long to bring it up. The Gr4 cars are better now than they were pre-1.49.

Had a great race yesterday and the driver "Dox" (white/orange Lambo) is part of the reason. He was in the Lambo behind and just did a great job of keeping things clean, and making very wise racing decisions.

Started the race in P3 behind two Lambos and in front of another. After a couple of laps the two Lambos in front hit the wall. I had to take evasive maneuvers to avoid hitting them. Lambo in P1 spins, P2 is now P1 and I am P3 way on the inside.

Dox was far enough back to avoid the chaos and was on the racing line. But rather than do anything crazy and try to go two wide with me in the fast left-handers coming up, he backed out of it so we could go line astern and attempt to push to catch the red Lambo now in P1. He also had a run going into T1 that be backed out of (or braked extra early) because it would've just been too risky. Smart racing decisions that you rarely see in the typical pass-at-all-costs mentality of many.

And, it worked. He was able to keep up with me (hard to believe amirite?!) as we chipped away at P1's lead, and going onto the front straight of the last lap the pressure got to the red Lambo and he scraped the wall allowing myself and the orange/white Lambo to get passed. We finished 1, 2 and it was just a really fun race all around. Had he fought in the two areas he probably could have, P1 would've driven off and the pack behind would've have caught up with likely a much different race resulat - and more importantly - experience.

 

[appu]

I've been lucky that maybe 9 out of my 12 races at Nordschleife have had rain. Today's race again had a new pattern. Seeing others' posts here and my own experience, I guess there is no point really in memorizing all the patterns since PD has likely made a lot of patterns and/or randomized them well.

In case anyone is curious about the pattern I had:
1st lap- dry as usual.
2nd lap- The clouds hovered over us on the second lap but it was not wet enough. I pit at end of lap 2.
3rd lap- Mostly dry except for 2-3 corners which definitely needed IM tires. Mortals spun there. I got ahead of them easily on my half-depleted IMs.
4th lap- Equally good for IM and W.
5th lap- Equally good for IM and W even though a dry line was visibly forming. I pit for fresh IMs at end of lap 5.
6th lap- Same as 3rd lap. Mostly dry except for 2-3 corners which definitely needed IMs. My fresh IMs degraded so bad but saved me whenever I overshot braking and got on wetter patches of the track. And also saved me on those critical 2-3 corners. There was a guy who had pit at end of lap 3 for IMs and had chosen to stay out. He ended up spinning on easy corners due to depleted IMs.

I thought it was fascinating how much faster IMs depleted on a drying track during 6th lap vs 2nd lap which was mostly dry except for 2-3 wet corners. I guess weather/track temperature made the difference. And thus adds to unpredictability due to not having temperature forecast.

It would also be nice to have time gaps to more than one person behind me, as I wanted to see whether I have a safe pit window.

 

[Talon16]

It would also be nice to have time gaps to more than one person behind me, as I wanted to see whether I have a safe pit window.

Finny you mention that... I had an idea about pit deltas many moons ago (quoting myself below). I'd still love to see something like this but I'd just as soon see pigs fly.

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I have an idea for something that would be super cool if it was added to the game. Wasn't sure where to put this but because Nations/Manu races often involve some sort of strategy, here it goes. Something to show the pit delta on the mini map. Stick with me here...

So we all know the mini map in the upper right shows the track, your car in red, and opponent cars in blue. Personally I find this mini map to be virtually useless. BUT, it would be awesome if they could add a visual on the mini map as to where you'd come out once you pit. It could get a little convoluted as there are multiple options while pitting, but I think it could work.

So, in addition to the red and blue triangles representing cars, they could make lines in different colors that represent pit deltas/losses. Even if the strat is very straight forward, the game doesn't know what the user is going to do. So, something like this:

Green line for a stop and go
Orange line for tires only
Purple line for fuel only (let's assume fueling to the 'diamond' as a constant)
Yellow line for tires and fuel

So the lines would follow your car around the track, at the appropriate deltas. Ie, the green line would be 20 seconds behind, the orange line would be 25 seconds behind, etc.

There are so many times I've thought about changing up strats on the fly (maybe being held up by someone, maybe try and undercut, maybe tires are dying quick, maybe damage, etc.) and pitting at a different lap than originally planned and it'd really nice to know where I'd pop out of the pits. Doesn't do much good to try and undercut if you just end up in traffic! Obviously real teams know this information but since we're doing this all on our own, it would be super cool.

It'll never happen, but it'd be a lot cooler if it did.