GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[awildo]

Is there somehow a way to load a ghost from one of the top 10 racers in qualification in daily race B for example?
Instead of following my own ghost if you know what I mean.

 

[xMAXIx79]

That Route are easy... its 90% from 24h Nürburgring start... only an other S at Start and End of that Track.

 

[Stilva]

Could I buy the Corvette and be somewhat competitive for Race C? I don't want to waste credits on a car that can't run with the meta R8 field from what I've read here so far. I'm still a bit unsure on the tuning in general, but I can at least try that out this week in qualifying and see what works. I just don't want to be so far behind the field where I'm by myself.

 

[xMAXIx79]

Is there somehow a way to load a ghost from one of the top 10 racers in qualification in daily race B for example?
Instead of following my own ghost if you know what I mean.

Yes look at Ranking Form Qualifying.. then click to one Driver and you can set him as Ghost.

 

[awildo]

Yes look at Ranking Form Qualifying.. then click to one Driver and you can set him as Ghost.

thanks !

 

[xMAXIx79]

Could I buy the Corvette and be somewhat competitive for Race C? I don't want to waste credits on a car that can't run with the meta R8 field from what I've read here so far. I'm still a bit unsure on the tuning in general, but I can at least try that out this week in qualifying and see what works. I just don't want to be so far behind the field where I'm by myself.

You can get the Meta as Gift from Lizenz Test.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

That Route are easy... its 90% from 24h Nürburgring start... only an other S at Start and End of that Track.

I tried the circuit experience and the amg is horrible! Like turning a boat around. Will push in tomorrow.

 

[xMAXIx79]

I tried the circuit experience and the amg is horrible! Like turning a boat around. Will push in tomorrow.

It is a Boat.. and it brings Millions of gal fresh Oil.

 

[Larzi-]

Could I buy the Corvette and be somewhat competitive for Race C? I don't want to waste credits on a car that can't run with the meta R8 field from what I've read here so far. I'm still a bit unsure on the tuning in general, but I can at least try that out this week in qualifying and see what works. I just don't want to be so far behind the field where I'm by myself.

You can get free Corvette by golding Rolling stone driving missions.

 

[Pfei]

I understand both sides of the preferences here (tuning vs no tuning). Personally I prefer spec BoP racing like in Gr. 3/4 and ACC. However that does not mean I am against tuning.

I am against tuning in race cars because they are already tuned. They should only have BoP (and hopefully the game allows setup along with BoP). That is in the spirit of a spec series, and is what PD masterfully exhibited in the FIA Manufacturers Series (albeit with setup sheets locked). Yes, tire wear in Gr. 4 made it a bit stacked against the odds for some cars, but Gr. 3 was very close, within a few tenths for every car. Tuning race cars flies in the face of the spirit of Sport Mode and fair, competitive championships. Adding nitrous, turbo, Fast 'N Furious wings, etc... to a Gr. 4 or 3 car is preposterous. So keep tuning out of race cars, please. Opening setup would be fine by me, but BoP in race cars is essential.

In road cars, however, I am all for open tuning. That's in the Gran Turismo tradition. Souped-up, modified road cars is what a lot of people love about the series. IMO it doesn't fit neatly into Sport Mode, but one race a week with wildly differing PP limits and car restrictions each week could offer some massive variety. I think I would have a lot of fun messing around in tuning races, however I refuse to play them because of how they influence DR. I would likely never try these tuned road races because my imported A/S rating from GTS was molded mostly by the FIA races, and in GT7 I will continue to do the championships only, maybe a few BoP dailies here and there. I wouldn't enter a tuning race because I feel DR is not compatible with the two sides of the game. The spirit of BoP in Sport Mode is incompatible with allowing tuning. It's really two completely different kinds of racing. That's why I propose a DR split, which I explain below.

If I were in charge (which I am not), assuming all the bugs, glitches, exploits and cheats have been worked out, this is how I would set up sport mode:

• DR becomes a specific rating tied to the BoP side of the game (BoP daily races, manufacturers series, etc...)
• TR (Tuner Rating) would be a new rating used to take the place of DR in the tuning races. This would definitely get me into racing tuning races for fun without worrying about my DR being smashed just because I haven't bought the right tuning parts for a car I don't even know would be competitive in the first place.
• SR would stay and be used and fluctuate over BoP dailies and Tuning Dailies
• 4 Daily Races: 2 with tuning, 2 with BoP. One race in each class could use fuel and tire wear to mix things up (similar to the current and past GTS Race C). Lots of possibilities there.

Besides what I wrote above, my biggest fear in tuning events is that there seem to be a lot of bugs, glitches and exploits in PP system. If that is not resolved then tuning races will never be viable in Sport Mode. In GTS, PD had a hard enough time keeping BoP balanced. Now imagine how difficult it must be to balance PP over 400+ cars with nearly limitless tuning combinations. Until PD can guarantee that all of the loopholes we have seen the past week have been closed I will not join a tuning Sport Mode race. If they would split it up and offer a new TR rating instead of using our DR, then I could see myself participating for some fun even if glitched. I really think there is a game in itself waiting inside Sport Mode with tuned road cars but it needs to be watertight, bug-free and balanced for it to work. I don't see that being possible. For now I will wait until they fix BoP mode to judge GT7 Sport Mode. Hopefully they will at least get the BoP bypass cheats resolved soon.

TL;DR: use DR for BoP races. Use a new TR (Tuning Rating) for tuning races. Have two dailies of each type of race. Fun for all.

 

[Barra333]

But how is this any better with BoP sorry? There is a dominant car in every race, with BoP it is impossible to iron out deficiencies in non-meta cars. With BoP turned on, Race B would still be dominated by the Peugeot VGT (basically zero tuning options on that car), because it's bugged. If the bug is patched, then the 911 GT3 RS would have been dominant. Each track has its meta Gr.3 car and although there are consistently competitive cars, like the Supra was in GTSport, you still need to drive the meta if you want to be absolutely certain for some reason that the reason you aren't winning isn't because you aren't in the fastest car, it's because you aren't actually as good as the other people you're racing.

With BOP, they can turn down the power and add weight to neutralise the VGT. Sure, it might still be the meta, but as long as I'm not losing several seconds a lap (like I was by not buying the VGT for the Deep Forest race), then I can deal with it. BOP is there to try and make everything competitive, and in all but the highest lobbies driver consistency is more important than the 1% performance difference.

 

[GTD87]

Really such a shame we have to be beholden to bop boys because they're so incredibly busy they can't take 20 minutes out of their day to change a damper setting.

Sad they won't allow us a choice of even one slot for tuned cars.

What the heck is wrong with having both? Why won't bop boys allow choice and one slot?

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Could I buy the Corvette and be somewhat competitive for Race C? I don't want to waste credits on a car that can't run with the meta R8 field from what I've read here so far. I'm still a bit unsure on the tuning in general, but I can at least try that out this week in qualifying and see what works. I just don't want to be so far behind the field where I'm by myself.

I don’t think so from what I’ve seen. Anything that wasn’t an r8 was down the back. The Huracan has the pace but it’s a tough drive.

 

[Pfei]

Really such a shame we have to be beholden to bop boys because they're so incredibly busy they can't take 20 minutes out of their day to change a damper setting.

It's not about damper settings, it's about balance in tuning. I'm a "BoP boy" who wants setups open. I'm not afraid of dampers.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Really such a shame we have to be beholden to bop boys because they're so incredibly busy they can't take 20 minutes out of their day to change a damper setting.

Sad they won't allow us a choice of even one slot for tuned cars.

What the heck is wrong with having both? Why won't bop boys allow choice and one slot?

Every single online race so far has been tuning open.

 

[GTWolverine]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned is that the very idea of modifying GT3 cars is odd. Why is that allowed? You shouldn't even be able to install nitrous or bolt a bigger turbo onto a Gr.3/GT3 car. In real life those cars are subject to BOP regulations and that's what I and I think most people who were enjoying the daily and FIA races want to see simulated in the game.

It's been possible to throw turbos and superchargers on real-life racecars in the game since the franchise's creation as far as I know. I've been playing Gran Turismo for roughly 20 years (I still can't believe it as I'm typing this...) and it's been the same. GT500, GT300, GT1 - literally everything except the F1 cars could have turbos bolted on.

 

[GTD87]

One of the things i loved about gt6 quick match was getting something like a bettle and putting turbo on it bigger than my head and racing people online and those room always had people in them

But apparently bop boys are way too busy and more important than everybody else because they have a kid and those without kids are lesser people.

Sad they won't allow a choice of both .

I didn't know sport mode was fascist mode

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Looks like the dailies aren’t cross gen. PS4 and PS5 players aren’t getting matched when they would have been in sport.

 

[Pfei]

Looks like the dailies aren’t cross gen. PS4 and PS5 players aren’t getting matched when they would have been in sport.

Someone had mentioned this way back on launch day on another thread and I heavily questioned his claim. Has this been confirmed by PD anywhere?

 

[rAtey]

Really such a shame we have to be beholden to bop boys because they're so incredibly busy they can't take 20 minutes out of their day to change a damper setting.

Sad they won't allow us a choice of even one slot for tuned cars.

What the heck is wrong with having both? Why won't bop boys allow choice and one slot?

Have you even played the game?! There is not one BoP race for us "bop-boys" and as far as I can see everyone agrees there should be a healthy mix of bop/tuning races.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Someone had mentioned this way back on launch day on another thread and I heavily questioned his claim. Has this been confirmed by PD anywhere?

It’s not been confirmed, just anecdotal but if you’ve played sport enough you’ll know whose in your rooms and who you’re normally matched with, can’t be coincidence there’s no crossover.

 

[BigSarj]

I didn’t want yesterday’s lap grinding to go to waste so I used Kie’s setup in the r8 and hit Race C. Got a what I thought was a not great qualy of 1.45.8 but surprisingly saw me start fourth and 2nd in DR A. Some amazing racing and so happy to be back. The tuning is a bit silly - 15 R8s on the grid. What I will say is that the R8 is really nice to drive with this setup and I wouldn’t go near it stock. Not sure what to make of that.
But anyway, how about some great racing. Very clean and respectful, bump drafting and fuel saving playing a big role. People are clearly still getting used to the physics. Quite a few spins. To be honest I was able to run my own race nice and smooth and just bring it home. So good to be back!
@Sven Jurgens i completely get your reticence, But using those settings and that car there’s some great racing here.

That is a great time if you ask me. I'm almost a second behind you but I think I've identified the issues. I'll be ecstatic to break into the 45's.

Edit - @Stilva I can get the Corvette down to the low 47s but the Audi has allowed me a 46.8 and it should get a tiny bit better before I race.

 

[Squirrel_-18-]

Can someone help me understand why some people are refusing to race without BoP? Why is having to grind to buy whatever car is meta that week preferential to just buying one car from each category, applying some generic tune that works for most tracks, and just using that in whatever races come up?

A common theme seems to be "I want to know I got beat by the better player, and not the better tune."

Well, first of all, why? What difference does it make? The game has SBMM so if you genuinely believe that not tuning is making you relatively slower, it won't make a difference long term. All SBMM cares about is creating competitive lobbies, if doesn't care how you get your laptimes and results, if you can get a 1:30.500 without tuning, and someone else gets a 1:30.500 with tuning, what difference does that make to how competitive the race between you will be? And really, what's the difference between a meta tune and a meta BoP'd car? Accessibility I guess, but only long term arguably, in the short term how many players have the time and desire to grind credits to buy the new meta car every week? How bad will that be when Gr.1 races become a thing?

And secondly, if someone is really good at developing tunes and uses that ability to gain an advantage over you… Well maybe you need to evaluate your definition of what makes the better player.

Because some people don't have the time or interest in tuning. GT Sport was BOP based, and a lot of people are coming to this as GT Sports successor, and finding that not even one race they can jump into quickly and be competitive, is disappointing. It's ludicrous that after developing GTS to a point that it has a huge eSport following, and is one of the most popular online racing games, that for some reason Sport on GT7 is nothing representative of that. Maybe the should bring out a GT Sport 2?

 

[GTD87]

Oh my g88 can people read? I just said why can't they allow both?

Geez man

Yeah i own the game I'm playing right now bro

I'll ask again because apparently i wasn't clear enough.

What is wrong with having both????

 

[Pigems]

mostly a jab at his "this is racing" comment....but I stand by it. I'm trying to illustrate how the very point that he uses about more effort directly translating to better results can also be used to argue against his pro-tuning stance.

I’ll prove that point a little more even, I put over 4000 hours into GT Sport, and while I did get better, it didn’t magically turn me into an Esports Alien. I did get into a few of their races near the end of GTS’s lifespan, but that was more down to lack of aliens entering, than it was my skill level rising. Getting past your own personal limits requires not only practice, but dedicated purposeful practice, most likely with a knowledgeable coach.

 

[Stilva]

I don’t think so from what I’ve seen. Anything that wasn’t an r8 was down the back. The Huracan has the pace but it’s a tough drive.

I figured as much. I knew a meta would happen eventually. Oh well, I'll wait for a proper BoP race.

 

[Pigems]

I figured as much. I knew a meta would happen eventually. Oh well, I'll wait for a proper BoP race.

You say that as if a regular BoP race doesn’t have a meta after 15 minutes either though. It’s sim racing, there will almost always be a meta, regardless of rules/regulations. It even happens in iRacing.

 

[m3dium]

Because some people don't have the time or interest in tuning. GT Sport was BOP based, and a lot of people are coming to this as GT Sports successor, and finding that not even one race they can jump into quickly and be competitive, is disappointing. It's ludicrous that after developing GTS to a point that it has a huge eSport following, and is one of the most popular online racing games, that for some reason Sport on GT7 is nothing representative of that. Maybe the should bring out a GT Sport 2?

Adding to that: GT Sport had 10 million users in 2021. Obviously this comes wit a sizeable overlap from fans of the previous games, but for the last five years (or basically the entire last console generation, given that GT6 was on PS3), GT multiplayer was Sports Mode as seen in GTS.

I'm all for variety and tuning can probably offer some interesting races. It's not my cup of tea, but I'm glad it's there for folks who enjoy it. But what PD is currently doing is alienating a lot of people who are coming from GTS expecting great single player and the awesome multiplayer experience they're used to.

Yeah, things will be patched eventually, but why launch in such a sorry state? I don't get it.

 

[GTR Racer 5]

The 155 is fantastic for Race B if anyones bothered, or if you missed the micro transaction requirements for some to buy the 155, the G70 works well too. Easy to do 2:02’s in just don’t Rev it all the way out is what I can see is the way with these V6’s.

 

[gthelmi2398]

Where can I see my development of my DR and SR in GT7?